It is strange and striking that climate change activists have not committed any acts of terrorism. After all, terrorism is for the individual by far the modern world’s most effective form of political action, and climate change is an issue about which people feel just as strongly as about, say, animal rights. This is especially noticeable when you bear in mind the ease of things like blowing up petrol stations, or vandalising SUVs. In cities, SUVs are loathed by everyone except the people who drive them; and in a city the size of London, a few dozen people could in a short space of time make the ownership of these cars effectively impossible, just by running keys down the side of them, at a cost to the owner of several thousand pounds a time. Say fifty people vandalising four cars each every night for a month: six thousand trashed SUVs in a month and the Chelsea tractors would soon be disappearing from our streets. So why don’t these things happen?
Because the law drops the hammer on them BIG time.
Hell, activists use to spike old wood trees marked for clear cutting back in the day. This would cause the saw blades foresters would use to explode in their face,, in fact George Alexander, a millworker, was severely injured when a saw blade shattered after contact with a tree spike and cut his jaw in half.
Maybe environmental movements don't attract the types of people who do this stuff or maybe it's not personal it's impersonal? Big difference between being told in your childhood house of worship that you are going to happy sky place if you die for skydaddy or seeing your uncle dragged off in the night vs. seeing a PowerPoint about climate change. Or maybe it's just a number game. Environmental groups just don't have enough people to get them in the pool.
Can't say I agree. For example, if someone hits you with their car? It's ok to scratch it.
Edit: The downvotes on this are fucking unreal, imagine being upset that the person you just mowed over scratched your car. Fuck right off with that bullshit.
You know, I agree. But also, you can't imagine how much I want to scratch the cars that just park illegally in my neighborhood. They park on the curves and crossings and in such small distances that I literally cannot pass through with my stroller without scratching them. So I end up going around the block(s) further and further away just to pass through some gap of illegally parked cars that's just big enough if I am very careful. But then I end up thinking, wtf. Why do I have to be careful to not scratch their wrongfully parked cars, a private property that they left outside on a place designed and protected by law to be solely for pedestrians, with my private property that should be able to walk this road? And also, why do I not get the same protection if I want to park my bike or stroller outside? Because no one cares if my private property is damaged when it is left outside. If I scratch my stroller on an illegally parked car when I cross the road at the place I am supposed to be crossing somehow I am the one who has to pay damages.
But what if the person on the other side was parked over the line and I had to leave space to get out and then they left and now I look like I parked like an asshole and then some asshole uses that as an excuse to ding my car.
He knew the truck would be an eye-catcher in Maine. But he wanted it for its uniqueness.
“It’s so ugly it’s cute. It’s like a French bulldog,” he said. “I don’t think it’s the most attractive car in the world, but it’s different. And I like to be different.”
Thinking someone is a douche and actively damaging their car are two completely different things. Not cool to damage property like that, just point and laugh or loudly exclaim how that is the ugliest looking car you’ve ever seen and you pity whoever thought it was a good idea to buy one.
People being assholes over it is dumb, but I can't say I would want one. I saw one recently at my local grocery store and I couldn't stop thinking how poorly built it looked. It just seemed like the fit and finish of the body panels was kinda bad. I got an overall feeling like it was something put together by a couple of teenagers in metal shop.
Have you tried quitting to the menu and turning up texture detail? Looks like it might be something to do with anti-aliasing. Hopefully will be patched in the next update.
I think it's because it costs an obscene amount while being something only a moron would buy. So when someone who is struggling to make ends meet sees that an absolute moron has so much cash that they can blow it on something this dumb, they get angry. It's not fair that they work hard just to make ends meet while some failson has $100k to blow on a dumb car. At least a Maserati, Porsche, or Ferrari of similar price looks cool.
Isn't that the goal of owning a machine like that? You are trying to provoke a reaction. The car I own was the single most commonly sold sedan the year it was made. I don't want people reacting to me, noticing me, etc. I want to be another person in the crowd.
If you take a shit in front of a camera you can't really be upset that people are commenting on it.
I don’t think it’s the car per se that angers people but the idiocy of lemmings who are destroying the world by supporting people like Trump and Musk and Nick Fuentes.
And by buying a Tesla car, that’s what you do, you enable Elon Musk to keep on destroying the world.
He doesn't like negative attention and is too dumb to realise that was the only thing that would happen by buying such an obvious "I'm dumb and a dickhead" statement piece.
And the reason for this is that the "light truck" classification has weaker emissions standards, so they can cheap out on efficiency of the engine which means higher profit margins (and more harmful pollution for us to enjoy inhaling).
iirc, that is bc your Forester is an SUV that uses a truck chassis underneath, whereas the otherwise extremely similar Crosstrek uses the Impreza chassis so is more of a high "car". But that could change over the years and I'm not really a car person so don't quote me or anything!:-P
I mean, the el Camino caught a lot of flak when I was young. I remember my "surfer/ stoner/ slacker/ loser" gen x cousin who was a pool guy used his as a work vehicle and I guarantee that guy was SMASHING with that ride. I'm not saying a cyber truck truck is on that level and but some things take time to catch on.
Hey a 1961 Ford rancho was my first vehicle. I did a lot of truck things with that. It was even one of one built of the crappy falcon body, which was one of Ford's first unibodies. Boy did that thing flex.
I even parked next to 2005ish Ford F150, with that dumb extra short bed. My 50 year old caruck has a bigger bed on it.
There needs to be a way to validate if something is a truck.
Isn't there already legal definitions such as gross vehicle weight? I know there have been some edge cases where people argue cars as trucks to get special truck access for commercial use. Chevy HHR comes to mind with some contractors.
USA Light Truck definition: Firstly, the vehicle must have a gross vehicle weight--that's the curb weight plus payload--of no more than 8,500 lbs. Secondly, it has to be designed to transport persons, property, or be fitted with special features allowing its "off-street or off-highway operation and use".
Is there any vehicle in the world that screams rich asshole more than the cyber truck? There are more expensive vehicles for sure, but my first thought if I saw a Pagani wouldn't be to flip it off.
At least with other expensive cars you can admire the craftsmanship, elegant appearance, and significant history behind the brand or specific model of car. For the money, you get none of those things with a cyber truck.
I can understand hitting the lottery and spending six figures on a luxury sports car. I cannot image why anyone would have voluntarily submitted themselves to this vehicle. Its the automotive equivalent of lighting six figures on fire.
It depends on the car. If I see a nice looking expensive car I don't think they're an asshole. Seeing something amazing is a treat for a gearhead like me, no matter how bitter I am.
The Cybertruck, however, is ugly as fuck. Unless your aesthetic is 80s low-poly video games it is even uglier in person than pictures. The fact that something that ugly costs that much is almost insulting.
Definitely a difference between living beyond your means and simply pissing the money away.
Admittedly, this vehicle was made by a guy who wrecked his McLauren inside a year. When you're a billionaire, I guess you just see everything as disposable.
Isn't getting attention the whole point of buying a expensive car like that for most people? I mean the same goes for expensive sports cars: most people don't get these because they are particularly good drivers - hell, some are even so old they can't even get into those cars properly.
I saw one in person finally a few weeks ago and just started laughing; it’s even uglier in person! But I wouldn’t intentionally try to damage someone else’s vehicle; that’s even more ridiculous.
Think he didn’t really have much of a choice given his public comments, and the fact that to lay folks those comments were credible because he has the resources to follow through.
If I posted “BRB, buying Twitter and taking it private,” it would be a joke. But coming from someone who already has a crazy amount of money, positions in companies, etc., and who knows or should know the ins and outs of securities law…
That was an ill fated statement that he should never have made and probably expected to be taken as a joke. Don’t think he expected the Twitter board to take the chance to cash out and call it good, either.
For someone with that level of impaired judgement to be running companies…. Jeez, how do I pull that off? I can rant publicly, I just don’t know the magic incantations that being in billions.
Hope that MFer gets meme stocked, shorted, and pump and dumped. As we’ve seen again and again, it doesn’t take all that much to do those things.
Am abs against the meme stock crowd, they are straight up bad actors, but might be able to do some good here.
I disagree emphatically re the design, it’s bizarre and foreign to me, but separating “pretty, IMHO” (and design is always in one’s opinion) vs “company is crap” is something not all humans are able to do, and which I respect.
So they progressively increase closing force if it keeps detecting something but the owner keeps trying to close it. I can vaguely see the reasoning only if they aren't confident in the frunk sensor for some reason. I mean garage doors solved this problem forever ago without having to resort to something like that.
I wonder if the "vision-based everything" mandate from Musk applies outside of autonomous driving features? Makes sense to not be confident in it if it's just a camera...
Because Elmo demands that his people redesign the idea of a car from the ground up, just because he wants to prove he's The Most Special Boy. Remember when they were having all those problems with power steering, and they were like, "hey, our company is basically brand new, we're still working out some kinks."
Like, power steering has been solved for a long time now, there's no need to try to reinvent it.
I'm surprised that they haven't released any cars with three, five, or six wheels yet.
This seems like an overblown concern. To prove it, I'm going to make a video putting my finger in the way as it closes and I'm sure it will be fine.. /s
Good or crap looking - doesn't matter. It's unique design nonetheless. This is the reason it's getting attention. You walk the street and you see movie like vehicle moving
There's a van in my neighborhood with a manifesto painted on every visible outside surface about how God entered the driver's body. It's a unique design and gets attention. And I would never want to drive it.
This car is a waste of money. I doubt this is a vehicle that can last 15 to 25 years or whatever the average vehicle expected life span is.
I have never seen one in real life but I'll be honest, this looks pretty cool. I also have seen mbkhd talk about how well this car drives; especially for a truck. I see people rave over cars that to me look like giant toys (I admit I'm not into cars) but this is something straight out of a video game world.
I'd be a little surprised if they even lasted 5-10 years without a crazy amount of money spent on keeping it running, they seem to rust or corrode if you so much as look at them wrong (never mind all the engineering/design disasters that went into this ridiculous thing).
To me, minivans are probably the most sensible vehicles out there. Does it comfortably seat 5 to 8 people? Yes. Does it offer lots of space for anything you need to haul from A to B? Yes. Does it have a footprint and gas consumption similar to a regular sedan? Yes.
If both are in Portland maybe it wasn't him but the cyber truck I see somewhat often is always waving out his window to people looking at his truck. I've followed this truck from Portland up to standish before and for him to say he doesn't like attention is absolutely not true...
You know, as much as I think Tesla sucks, I kinda feel bad pissing in someone's cheerios. My Sister-in-law loves hers. She's never had a car she really liked until now. Ima just let her be happy with her car.
"Your sister" spent $120k on that... she spends that kind of money on cars ans has "never had a car she likes"? What a weird and very likely BS statement.
That car is measurably more dangerous for the other cars and pedestrians around it on the road. If she is real, she sucks for buying and driving that thing (and for supporting elon and all his horseshit with the purchase)
I truly feel happy for her. I once had a hammer, which was the first hammer I really loved. Didn’t use it often but just seeing it in the toolbox gave me a good feeling.
You should look for more reasons to get your hammer out and use it! I hear the OP's sister has a truck that could use a good hammering! Don't let your hammer sit around gathering dust when there's some much joy you could get out of it.
He didn’t say she has a cybertruck, Jesus Christ guys. I have a Tesla model 3 that I fucking love. It’s a great car. Yes, Elon sucks and I now feel like a bit of a chud driving it around, but objectively it is a good vehicle by any measure.
Investing in a license plate from Maine that just says "Event" and driving around at low speeds while smoothly sliding on and taking off my sunglasses was also probably not helpful.
Also the fact that its a waste of resources, the ones here in California are already rusting up worse than some cars that have been sitting since the mid 90s. Seriously I see one over by Joshua tree (technically morango valley) sometimes and over the last month the rust has been creeping up its side. I suspect ones in places like Maine will be rust stains sooner rather than later.
Seriously, risking charges just to lash out at a billionaire by attacking someone using their product is absolutely crazy. It's unhinged even without the risk of charges, especially of all the things to attack an electric vehicle - do people not remember how we'd dog on the manchildren that did similar things to prius?
Last trump election there was huge push online to make the right as uncivil as possible. It seems like this round its the left because talking to a lot of these people are reminding me of what it was like speaking to the right pre election.
My boss just got this truck. Aside from it being severely over priced it's actually very well built and super practical and usable for light and medium light duty. Even some short distance towing.
Although for most people that can afford this thing I doubt there will be any kind of duty being performed by this truck at all.
The "very well built" comment also is a peculiar statement.
There's only 3800 of these delivered so far and there's literally hundreds of posts, pictures and videos of these abominations online showing the shoddy assembly and a flurry of technical issues.
Yeah it's funny the hate they get on here, every single person I know that's been in a tesla on FSD has said it'd brilliant, there are endless videos of people in love with their cybertrucks that show in detail why they like it. But no, 'i saw one go past and could just tell it was low quality'
Personally it's not for me, it's too big and intense even if I could afford it, it's not a disaster though and if people like it then it's good because they're the people that'd probably have a massive ICE truck instead. I honestly think the people hating on it are reaching into cope territory, scratching them because they're desperate to make them fail like they predicted.
It's just another product on the market, people should hype up good alternatives and help them grow if they want to 'fight elon'