Louisiana has become the first state to require that the Ten Commandments be displayed in every public school classroom. Republican Gov.
Louisiana has become the first state to require that the Ten Commandments be displayed in every public school classroom under a bill signed into law by Republican Gov. Jeff Landry on Wednesday.
The GOP-drafted legislation mandates that a poster-sized display of the Ten Commandments in “large, easily readable font” be required in all public classrooms, from kindergarten to state-funded universities. Although the bill did not receive final approval from Landry, the time for gubernatorial action — to sign or veto the bill — has lapsed.
Opponents question the law’s constitutionality, warning that lawsuits are likely to follow. Proponents say the purpose of the measure is not solely religious, but that it has historical significance. In the law’s language, the Ten Commandments are described as “foundational documents of our state and national government.
TST is not a super great org unfortunately. They do stuff for great headlines but apparently little in the way of effective advocacy. I've also heard that there are pretty bad issues with misogyny among the upper echelons. While it's extremely long at 2hrs, Dead Domain's video on the subject goes into great detail.
It's really unfortunate, I wanted to believe they were fighting the good fight but I don't know if I can in good conscience anymore
Oh, they know they're lying, they just want to lie so much they bury the truth re-write the past (which is kinda ironic if you think about it, given that whole eight commandment). It's kinda the same way the "Lost Cause of the Confederacy" is embedded into American mythology despite being a after-the-fact whitewashing of history.
No one challenged the law makers to prove that they were right. They are lying because they can get away with it - no one in any position of power asked or was asked which foundational document was forged by forefathers from Christian (or any religion) doctrine.
6 and 8 are the only ones that are laws, and those are just common sense shit, don't murder or steal. The first 4 are telling you what god to worship and how, which are explicitly the opposite of what a government is built on.
They'll probably publish the abridged version, sadly. The full version reads, as we well know:
Thou shall not commit adultery but, if thou doest, thou shalt pay off the other woman so that it harmeth not thy chances in the presidential election. Nor shall it turn thy supporters against thee when they heareth of it.
The Ten Commandments
I AM the LORD thy God.
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Thou shalt not make to thyself any graven images.
Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Honor thy father and thy mother, that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his cattle, nor anything that is thy neighbor's
And then there's a context statement trying to pretend this is a foundational legal document of the United States.
The "no working on the sabbath" thing continues on to list that you also can't make servants work on the sabbath - which would include the poor verbally abused waffle house staff working the Sunday brunch shift when the after church crowd comes in...
2 I am the Lorde thy God, which haue brought the out of the londe of Egipte ad out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt haue none other goddes in my syght.
4 Thou shalt make the no grauen ymage, nether any symilitude that is in heauen aboue, ether in the erth beneth, or in the water that ys beneth the erth.
5 Se that thou nether bowe thy sylf vnto them nether serue them: for I the Lorde thy God, am a gelouse God, and viset the synne of the fathers vppon the childern vnto the third and fourth generacion of the that hate me:
6 and yet shewe mercie vnto thousandes amonge them that loue me and kepe my commaundmentes.
7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lorde thy God in vayne, for the Lord wil not holde him giltlesse that taketh his name in vayne.
8 Remebre the Sabbath daye that thou sanctifie it.
9 Sixe dayes mayst thou laboure ad do al that thou hast to doo:
10 but the seuenth daye is the Sabbath of the Lorde thy God, in it thou shalt do no maner worke: nether thou nor thy sonne, nor thy doughter, nether thy manservaunte nor thy maydeservaunte, nether thy catell nether yet the straunger that is within thi gates
11 For in sixe dayes the Lorde made both heauen and erth and the see and all that in them is and rested the seuenth daye: wherfore the Lorde blessed the Sabbath daye and halowed it.
12 Honoure thy father ad thy mother, that thy dayes may be loge in the lode which the Lorde thy God geueth the.
13 Thou shalt not kyll.
14 Thou shalt not breake wedlocke.
15 Thou shalt not steale.
16 Thou shalt bere no false witnesse agest thy neghboure
17 Thou shalt not couet thy neghbours housse: nether shalt couet thy neghbours wife, his maservaunte, his mayde, his oxe, his asse or oughte that is his.
18 And all the people sawe the thunder ad the lyghteninge and the noyse of the horne, ad howe the mountayne smoked. And whe the people sawe it, they remoued ad stode a ferre of
Cool, cool, cool ... They going to ban pork products and all shellfish too? Or are we cherry picking here... Seems like it be right blasphemous to be cherry picking...
How is this not a first amendment constitutional violation? It very clearly establishes a state religion by enforcing Christian doctrine into state law. Fuck every religion, but in particular, fuck abrahamic religion and all of its followers.
If they actually believe in that whole originalism thing they claim (basically that the text of the constitution means what it would have meant at the time it was written, and shifts in the definition of words don't change that meaning) they still can't allow it. There's basically no way to interpret the Constitution that would result in mandating a specific religious affirmation be in public facilities isn't "promoting an establishment of religion".
The best they could hope for without just ignoring the Constitution entirely and making something up (which all their conservatism.aside they generally haven't done yet) would be arguing that this requires opening the door to any similar list of religious tenets by literally every faith on the planet.
As a Canadian, I have the same question. Is this just the old "slam through an obviously unconstitutional law because it will take years and hundreds of thousands of dollars to get it undone and until then maybe we can keep pushing our clearly anti-American agenda? (note I'm using American to mean what they claim it to mean, like in the movies, not what it actually is, which is kinda... this.)
I was thinking frame them in a really bad frame that falls on its face all the time. If you have older students, just loudly state how much you would dislike it if the commandments were stolen or otherwise defaced and let nature do its work.
We need to enact a law that requires states to either adhere to the Seperation of Church and State or have every single church in their state have their religious tax exemption status revoked. Churches that get it revoked is mandatorily required a tax payback to the IRS of up to 5 years or more. If a church is unable to payback owed taxes once revoked will have their churches taken and land converted to into free public usage.
Me: Please let me know how many homeless people each church would need to host to help all the homeless people
ChatGPT: Each church in the United States would need to host approximately 1.87 homeless people to accommodate all the homeless individuals in the country.
Hmm… doesn’t specifically basing any laws on a universally recognized organized religion by definition a violation of Church and State? Doesn’t explicitly stating a religious totem qualify as favoring one religion over others? Doesn’t this also violate the Lemon Test since it in no way can be seen as secular in nature to put religious text in any form inside a classroom that is funded by the state? Seems they wrote themselves the reason to strike down the law into the law itself.
Well it's about time that children learn not to boil a baby goat in the milk of its mother and to not, under any circumstances, put yeast in a blood sacrifice.
What? They aren't talking about the only ten commandments in the Bible actually called the ten commandments?
19 “The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20 Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.
What it says, the firstborn of every womb belongs to God and should be sacrificed to him, but you can trade a lamb if you want to keep the firstborn, like a coupon.
So hypothetically, you either sacrifice a lamb to God or kill your first born child - this mirrors nicely with Passover.
This state government is the worst one I've ever seen. Filled with morons. They believe in fairy tales and magic. There is no voice of reason in that state house.
I live an work in Scotland, as part of our job we're voluntold to speak to young people considering a trades apprenticeship. Last month was my turn, one of the kids was going for his welding ticket. His game plan was to immediately move to Texas. I told him there's loads of places you'd be less likely to be shot considering how lippy he is.
Someone should pull a Martin Luther and nail the part of the constitution that separates church and state to the entrance of the biggest school in the state.
Agreed 100%. But we must not forget that Muslims worship a pedophile as their profit. And devout jews still have rabbis suck the blood off the freshly circumcised baby as tradition dictates.
All of these abrahamic religions are absolute trash. And we can't forget the recent offshoots Mormonism and scientology.
Remember folks, all of these assholes get massive amounts of undeserved tax breaks for no reason, and you dont.
EDIT: I didn't mean to imply scientology is an offshoot of the abrahamic religions. It's just a recent offshoots religion, that gets tax breaks like the rest. Poorly worded.
Any one left not believing in science first that would like to believe in gods, have I got a religion for you!... I haven't figured out all the details yet but we are efficient. We'll be using the last copy of pacbell's phone book. Incredibly most people who perished that year actually had their names mysteriously listed in that oh so great book. And finally, but most importantly, we can set up automatic withdrawal for your monthly, tax deductable, donation. If you want to bring up saint and shit, we're pretty much open to that. St. Steve for example helps us with programming bugs. Slowly he's getting used to python miracles. St. Bob will get you neighbors with tools to borrow from. St. Jessica will make you popular in school. And Saint Alina of the mysterious vajayjay will indeed find you that man of your dreams. So long as your account is engaged, you got nothing to fear. We got no hell or Devil in our religion. Just normal shit like that stupid stop light that takes forever to change or the homeless guy who might use your money to buy drugs so you can't decide if you should give him money or not.
No, it's thou shall not commit murder, not kill. There is a difference. That sign in the thumbnail is between Cincinnati and Columbus Ohio. This has created a rivalry between the two MLS teams called thr HELL IS REAL derby. The other side of that billboard says HELL IS REAL as you come towards Cincinnati.
Maybe they should add an eleventh? “Though shalt not covet your cousin, or anyone more closely related, or children… and since you made me have to put this in writing you’re all going to hell.”
the first tablet(s). We don't know what the original tablets said. He came down, saw the shitfuckery that was going on, smashed them, and went back up to get two new ones made for the golden cow worshiping jews who had gotten bored while he was up there.
11 Obey what I command you today. I will drive out before you the Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. 12 Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land where you are going, or they will be a snare among you. 13 Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and cut down their Asherah poles.[a] 14 Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
15 “Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices. 16 And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same.
17 “Do not make any idols.
18 “Celebrate the Festival of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Aviv, for in that month you came out of Egypt.
19 “The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20 Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.
“No one is to appear before me empty-handed.
21 “Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.
22 “Celebrate the Festival of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Festival of Ingathering at the turn of the year.[b] 23 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign Lord, the God of Israel. 24 I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the Lord your God.
25 “Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Festival remain until morning.
26 “Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the Lord your God.
And even the KJV edits did not manage to paper over the fact that there are in fact 18 if you count Sky Daddy's recitation/rant in Exodus after the whole golden calf incident.
“If you want to respect the rule of law, you’ve got to start from the original lawgiver, which was Moses”
Bollocks, more like.
The earliest known laws are from The Code of Ur-Nammu from Mesopotamia written on tablets around 2100–2050 BCE. If Moses existed, he was probably chiselling away at his tables six or seven hundred years later.
So I demand that these laws replace the 10 Commandments in schools. Who could forget such classics as:
If a prospective son-in-law enters the house of his prospective father-in-law, but his father-in-law later gives his daughter to another man, the father-in-law shall return to the rejected son-in-law twofold the amount of bridal presents he had brought.
If a man's slave-woman, comparing herself to her mistress, speaks insolently to her, her mouth shall be scoured with 1 quart of salt.
If a man, in the course of a scuffle, smashed the limb of another man with a club, he shall pay one mina of silver.
If a man stealthily cultivates the field of another man and he raises a complaint, this is however to be rejected, and this man will lose his expenses.
They don't care about ACTUAL history. They're trying to defend themselves by shifting any criticism onto "the original lawgiver," and knowing full well that most Americans get their history from church (and bad TV in a close second), they invoke God as a shield to do whatever awful injustices make them erect that week
Ah, but readable by whom? I have a bar code font here. If you can't read it you're clearly not nerd enough.
Also, putting the Ten Commandments in classrooms will only turn the kids into sarcastic, blasphemous little fellows. ...I mean, more so than they already are.
I would be seriously motivated to counterlegislate the posting of what Jesus replaced all of them with:
Golden rule: treat others [at minimum, if not better than] how you would want to be treated. And help your neighbor to upgrade their standards if that seems to be a bottleneck even still
That's what I'm saying about upgrading their standards. If you want to be treated and treat others like shit, the person with higher standards should be deferred to as the default de minima of social decency. Like, people should be invited and introduced to being treated with respect and dignity and be able to experience that first-hand with grace but also assertiveness.
The law specifies the exact text, so this won't fly. Even using the other set of ten commandments in the Bible won't fly.
I am looking forward to the lawsuits on 1A and how this functionally means they will have to display any list of religious rules or tenets requested. Nine Satanic Statements, the Seven Tenets of The Satanic Temple, the Noble Eightfold Path, etc, etc. We can turn their schools into a museum of comparative religion.
If I was a student there I would constantly be taking them down and ripping them up. Or making my own version that looks exactly the same but changes the wording.
Destruction of property is what you'd get hit with. Could be best to turn it into a project to show how the state/representatives violates each commandment, post those answers next to all the commandments and keep posting those to media until they realize how many of the commandments they don't agree with. And shouldn't be posting.
They should have it written in gaelic since the first woman hung for witchcraft in the United States was an Irish servant who didn't speak English very well.
Apparently being unable to say the Lords Prayer in English is proof you're a witch... so they killed her.
" a poster-sized display of the Ten Commandments in “large, easily readable font” in all public classrooms, from kindergarten to state-funded universities. "
I'm sure that will never get graffitied. I look forward to finding out how many times kids can work the word "fart" into them and have it still make sense.