What movie is in your top list despite its absolute shit rating?
What movie is in your top list despite its absolute shit rating?
I think for me it's alien: covenant. I was really interested in the ideas explored in prometheus and covenant just expanded on them. I don't get much into the details of why it is or isn't a good movie.
Luckily, though, HBO ran raised by wolves which really delved into ideals about AI and planet seeding etc. So that itch got way scratched even if the run was cut short.
not really sure how people view it (or even how i’d view it now nearly 30 years on) but i liked that weird Final Fantasy: Spirits Within movie when it came out. haven’t seen it since it was in theatres though so not sure what i’d think of it now; i just thought it was neat at the time (and age of 10)
Oh shit, I'm with you. Really good story. Not final fantasy but still really good. I do go back and notice all the uncanny valley stuff now but I'm not as sensitive to it as other people.
Tommy boy got shit on by siskel and ebert, which is why I never trust their reviews. That movie is a 10.
Who's your favorite little rascal? Is it alfalfa? Or SPANKY?
I never got that as a kid lol
Weekend at Bernie's
Dirty Grandpa.
It's much funnier than it has a right to be. Also, Aubrey Plaza really, really wanted to fuck Robert De Niro, and fought to get the role for that reason. Its ending sex scene is one of the most genuine in Hollywood because of that. Of course, Aubrey Plaza makes things better just by showing up.
Critics who hate it need to lighten up.
Ice Pirates (1984) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087451/
Anjelica Huston
Ron Perlman
Mary Crosby
John Matuszak
John Carradine
Does Borat the original count?
Not the worst rating at around a 60% on Rotten Tomatoes and around a 6.5 on IMBD, but I absolutely without question love An American Tail: Fievel Goes West.
Definitely a fun "sequel" with a lighter tone than the original. Though I will definitely say the Native American mice scenes are definitely outdated and a product of their time if you ask me.
Squeakuel
The live action Transformers movies. ALL OF THEM.
Shit blew my mind when the first one came out. Weird faces and all. I cannot get enough of these robots beating the tar out of each other and sometimes committing war crimes.
Dark of the Moon in the third act is still one of my favorite pieces of cinema.
Titan A.E
Grandma's Boy
Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter
Dude I fuckkkkking Loved Titan AE. Such a good movie for its time when adult cartoons weren’t everywhere. Cartoons at the time were all hand hold-y and made for kids; it was such a breath of fresh air.
Well, I believe Pixar was around, but this was a great scifi epic, too, with a fantastic soundtrack, cast, and just everything. I too adore it to death. Long live Planet Bob.
Haven't seen Titan A.E. in a long time. Great film. Definitely need to rewatch it.
Lincoln fucking rocks!
No, that was the lame one by some hack, that didn't even have any vampires in it. This was the true masterpiece.
Dragonheart (1996)
Godzilla (1998)
Aeon Flux (2005)
Next (2007) - thought it was funny
3 Ninjas (1992) - classic
Oh man I loved Dragonheart as a kid! I haven't seen it in ages! Guess I know what I'm watching tonight!
Love to spark a Dragonheart watch! :D
3 ninjas absolutely rocked. Especially when they went to Japan, they played a song during the montage training scene that sounded like Blondie's rapture. Loved that movie growing up.
Me too! "Rocky loves.. Emily.. Rocky loves! Emily!"
Breakfast of Champions - I don't care if it totally bastardized Vonnegut, I really liked it.
Mystery Men - Again, I don't care if it totally bastardized Bob Burden.
Titan AE
The female version of Ghostbusters.
Zardoz.
Hackers. Fuck you if you say one bad thing about this movie. It is glorious.
Mystery Men & Hackers are among my guilty pleasures.
I do love hackers.
The girl ghost busters was rated pretty good though, wasn’t it?
Waterworld. I love that movie so much. I've watched the theatrical, TV, and Ulysses cuts. I've read the comics. I've played the games. I bought it on Blu-ray the day Arrow released it.
Lots of redeeming qualities about Waterworld. The stunt work, and score especially.
bright. absolutely garbage movie, super fun silly world building
my answer for this is always BASEketball
one of the funniest movies of all time yet only has 41% on RT
You kids and your Dan Fogelberg and your Zima (I may be misremembering)
I swear if you guys rip on me 13 or 14 more times, I'm outta here dude.
I hear your sister's going out with Squeak!
Dude.
Dude. No said no more journey psych outs
What’s a bajoina?
Dude Where's My Car is one of my favorite movies with the worst rating of all time.
And then?
Sweet! What does mine say?
Its mystery is exceeded only by its power.
That was going to be my answer too. I enjoy that movie and don't care what people think.
That movie is so dumb. I LOVE IT.
Last action hero. I think the people don't understand that the film does it all on purpose.
It is a love letter to action movies while acknowledging that those are stupid.
It's a fantastic movie that was just a bit late for the spoof movies of the late 70s/80s and too soon for the torrent of them in the 2000s.
'I am the famous comedian Arnold Braunschweiger' is not only something I say to my wife without context but also makes me laugh uproariously.
I don’t know how people couldn’t understand it was poking fun at all the ‘80s action heroes, especially Schwarzenegger himself. It’s a fun movie.
That movie is so highly underrated.
The Hamlet trailer is worth watching it for alone.
One could argue it is a demonstrative of every 80's action movie trope, then going straight into the 90's tropes list, and it does so with a smile.
The movie, and the ACDC song wasn't received well either, maybe because of the movie? Big Gun rocks.
Dr Suess The Cat in The Hat with Mike Myers
I JUST rewatched Gone in Sixty Seconds on a whim, on like Thursday, and spotted that it apparently has a 38% critic rating from Rotten Tomatoes. Fuck that noise, that movie is a materpiece of filmography.
This is the movie we use to test our systems. Soundtrack rocked, it's my fiances favorite.
Agreed! I love to hate gone in sixty seconds, I feel the same way about the need for speed movie as well. If you haven’t seen it I recommend watching the NFS movie.
Freddie Got Fingered. SOOOO ahead of its time. I love Tom Green.
Oh yes, that fucking leg break tonguing.
Daddy would you like some sausage?
MY HOOVES
The movie was filmed down the street from where I grew up, so maybe for that reason or just for whatever lack of parenting reason, I watched this movie multiple times at the age of like 8 or 9.
I turned out okay, everything is fine. I think I need to rewatch it to check exactly in which ways it fucked me up.
Tron: Legacy
Also Ready Player One. I like the movie where the person go into the computer :)
I like the movie where the person go into the computer
Have I got an MST3K for you then... Overdrawn at the Memory Bank
Lol, I really like premise too. It can be done better, tho.
That's why I support all sorts of sci-fi that is complete garbage. I want the genre to thrive and if we stop showing up Hollywood stops giving money.
It's a work of art.
A simple tropey story to hang some amazing visual and aural art off.
I watch it often.
Wait, people dislike Tron? I had no idea
I've watched it when I was younger a couple of times but for me personally it was just a movie I watched amd the idea of rewatching it feels boring to me
The Daft Punk soundtrack against the hyper-electronic visuals is a fantastic blend for the senses.
Little Nicky, with an IMDB rating of 5,3 lol. I guess it's a nostalgia thing.
Little Nicky is the shiznit!
The deep south.
I still quote that movie to this day. Especially if I eat Popeyes Chicken
Release the evil
Attack of the killer tomatoes!
Well it's not a shit rating but I do think A Knight's Tale is way better than its mediocre scores. Perfect comfort movie.
A Knight's tale is a cult classic. That it's not well rated is absurd.
Edit: it's 1% shy of a fresh rating on rotten tomatoes and has an audience score of 79%.
'but it's not historically accurate!'
Y'get to see heath ledger in armor win the girl, bust heads, and have a grand time doing it! All to a solid soundtrack.
Bloodsport.
What a great movie! It was also well received by the audience not critics 0, was a financial success and kickstarted Jean-Claude Van damme's career.
Let's not even talk about the soundtrack conceivably one of the best pieces of written music ever made.
(Anybody who's actually ever listen to the soundtrack is currently nodding their heads)
Bankok dangerous
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist. Yes it's utterly ridiculous. I don't care, it's still a masterpiece of absurdity to me. That 13% on RT is a shame.
Also how has it been 23 years since its release.
Hell yea!
it's an interesting and funny concept, but its just too much in the format of a whole film for me. I think its funny for the most part but its too much at like the 25% mark
Kung Fu Hustle is Kung Pow, but good.
My girlfriend got me plastered and showed me this fever dream of a movie. 10/10 experience
Tiger
Bird
I'm sure on some planet this movie is impressive, but its weak link is: this is Earth.
Maximum overdrive. 1986, coked up actors, campy as hell but taking itself very seriously, 14% rotten tomatoes score.
The soundtrack alone is worth 20%
The entire soundtrack is an AC/DC album, it's written by Stephen King, it has 80s era Emelio Estevez and the voice of Lisa Simpson AND that badass Green Goblin truck!
That movie is at least 50%, it's just too fun to be any lower.
I never knew I wanted to see a vending machine assault children before that movie came into my life.
I still think League of Extraordinary Gentlemen got unfairly dragged. 16% on Rotten Tomatoes.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/league_of_extraordinary_gentlemen
A lot of people were confused about Dorian Gray, but adding him was pretty inspired.
Watched it not long ago. Didn’t realize the people rating it have no appreciation for decent movies.
It wasn’t phenomenal by any means but it was quite entertaining for the duration of it.
Surprised it hasn’t come back as a streaming channel series of films like “Knives Out”. It’s got a lot of potential.
16% on Rotten Tomatoes.
That crictic rating though, that's a useless measure. And 44% audience score isn't that bad.
Ebert's big beef with it was "You can't drive a car in Venice!" and I'm like "You're OK with 1800s nuclear submarines, an immortal vampire victim, an invisible man, and a dude who can't be hurt because his painting takes the damage for him, but driving a car in Venice is a bridge too far?"
I don’t disagree that it’s a terrible movie, it’s just a terrible movie that I happened to really like.
I remember screening league of extraordinary gentleman and all I could think is it was probably not for me. Not to say someone else wouldn't like it. I feel like not everything should be rated based on its wide spread appeal.
I absolutely enjoy this movie as well! Nemo kicking ass is a joy to watch
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
pretty sure I watched it in the theater while it was new and I didn't think it was a waste of time but it is forgettable. It's only really remarkable thing is being Sean Connery's last movie
As a "last movie" it's kind of infamous, like Raul Julia as Bison in "Street Fighter".
I like the White Men Cant Jump remake.
I actually think that theres some movies that SHOULD be remade every 15 to 20 years. I would watch Major League if it was remade every 5 to 10 years. New city, new cast, new jokes, new location, callbacks, subverting expectations... but same premise a shitty baseball team needs to get better or else. Give young up and coming actors an excuse to have fun, ham it up, play a wacky character.
Hell make it a punishment for being the statistically worst team for the season that they make it. "Sorry Boston but... you really ate shit this year..."
Ted Lasso is just Major League, but fútbol.
Make it that they'll move the team to Las Vegas. It's real, it's scary, it's believable
Bladerunner 2049.
I know a lot of people disliked it compared to the first one, even Ridley Scott himself. But I love the direction Denis Villeneuve took this film in.
Did people dislike it compared to the first one? It's got an 88% on rotten tomatoes, and anyone I've talked with about the films prefers the second one.
I agree with you, by the way, I just don't think that's the unpopular take (Ridley's opinion is meaningless at this point).
I love BR2049. In fact I think I liked it more than the original, and that's saying something.
Gorgeous film
Ridley Scott is famous for his shit opinions. When he released The Last Duel in the middle of COVID, he complained that "them kids can't even get off their phone for 2 hours to enjoy art" as thr primary reason it wasn't making money.
This is my all time favourite movie, whereas the first probably isn't in the top 5, low top 10 max.
One of the few sequels that did credit to the original. Like the original Alien trilogy, it's best if you consider them movies in the same universe but different genres. Like, Aliens (I) was a suspense; II was a sci-fi action; III was a horror thriller.
Maybe the Blade Runners weren't so very different in genre, but yeah - good sequel, and in its way faithful to the original.
I love that movie!!!
Any film where people ride around on rollerskates in a post-apocalyptic society.
I'm especially partial to SolarBabies (1986), but I'll also accept 'Roller Blade' and 'Prayer of the Rollerboys', where young Patricia Arquette and downsloping Corey Haim don the skates. Rollerball from 1974 is the Citizen Kane of this genre. The 2002 remake with LL Cool J is its red headed step-child.
I love every stupid minute of SolarBabies.
"You are Chikani!" is one of my favorite badly-delivered bad movie lines.
If you have not heard the episode of How Did This Get Made about it, you should definitely give it a listen: https://www.earwolf.com/episode/solarbabies-live/
Thank youI haven't come across that podcast before. I will definitely check that out. It is a wonderfully silly film.
Even though it's not apocalyptic, Airborne (1993) is one of my all time favorite movies. The main character is great, Seth green is in it, Britney Powell, Chris Conrad, young Jack black, Alanna ubach (from Waiting). It's about a high school surfer from Cali who gets shipped to Ohio for 6 months and has to fit in. Hilarious and just amazing. I'm not gay, but Shane McDermott... It's also amazing he went into real estate, I thought he played a great character on screen. All about rollerblading since nowhere to surf.
Oh my god I saw that a long time ago, I just checked the trailer and it is what I remember.
Even as a teenager I remember thinking that the final race was absolutely unhinged. Like what about the enormous pile of dead or maimed teenagers that the camera cut away from just in time to maintain its G rating?
In the trailer there's a bunch of kids that slide under a moving semi trailer but lose too much momentum to make it out the other side, or it looks like they do. We never see what happens to them. Main character even looks back at them for a second, just long enough to see that they're still on the ground and not moving but fuck them because our hero made it and he's on his way! Huzzah!
I mean the movie is memorable, it's fun and all, but that scene just lost me so hard. Like actually maybe fuck everyone who thinks this race is a good idea and worth winning. They can have their race, and I will win the broader game of natural selection.
Thank you for that recommendation. I do remember watching it on video, probably about the time it came out. Then absolutely wrecking myself on a hill after I took the brake off my own skates. Fun times indeed. Did not remember Jack Black or Seth Green being in it though. Also you are totes not gay for 90s Shane McDermott. Understood.
Not roller skates but I'm sure you'd dig Turbo Kid if you haven't seen it.
I had totally forgotten about solarbabies... and tonight I'm gonna make sure to drink enough to forget it again.
the 80s man.... phew
Sucker Punch. Objectively, it's not really that great of a movie. But it's one of the most fun movies I've ever seen. It's got over-the-top action sequences, an amazing soundtrack, and a genuinely unique idea for a story that I haven't really seen done before.
The final cut ended up removing a very key scene that ties a lot of the story together, which I honestly feel is part of why the movie was so poorly-received, because the theatrical release just doesn't make sense and ends abruptly. If you decide to watch it, try to find a version that has the deleted scene with the High Roller near the end. It's a full five minutes of dialogue that ties the entire story together and Warner Brothers scrapped it and it drives me so crazy. It's like an "I Am Legend's deleted ending" level of directorial blunder, IMO.
Came here to post this. It’s a super fun movie.
Agree. I don't think Snyder can make good movies, but he makes fucking epic music videos. And that's how I view Sucker Punch.
I'd like to add that their soundtrack is amazing!
The Amazing Bulk.
Empire Records is a 5 ⭐ film, yet holds a 35% rotten tomatoes score.
But 85% audience score. Critics seems to love to hate on those types of teen movies. Can't Hardly Wait has 43%.
What constitutes a "shit rating?"
Big Trouble in Little China is 7.2/10 on IMDB, and it got positive reviews; it was, however, a commercial failure, making only half what it cost to produce. Great movie.
Wizards rates only 6.3/10 on IMDB, although it did well at the box office. That may be my favorite movie of all time.
Dredd failed at the box office but gets a 7.1 from IMDB. I think it's grossly underrated.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a 6.4 and generally gets poor reviews; it did fine at the box office. But I love that film.
If you want you get esoteric, Lord Love a Duck (1966) was a financial failure and gets only 6.3 from IMDB, but it's wonderful.
Disney's 1979 The Black Hole gets a 5.9 and didn't do well. It's a lot of fun and the ending is an acid trip.
The Prophesy (1995) got really bad reviews and 46% on Rotten Tomatoes, proving there's no accounting for taste. Absolutely worth watching.
Hawk the Slayer (1980), 5.3, is in the "it's so bad it's good" category. This includes Zardoz (1974), and Krull.
And, Dune (1984). 6.3 IMDB, total loss at the box office, and one of the best movies of all time. I kinda think Herbert might have hated it where he'd have liked 2021, but the cast, the atmosphere, the music, the hyperbolic representations of the characters; it is a masterpiece. And it features a young, mostly naked Sting (which is the lure I used to use to get my girlfriends to watch it).
S.O.B. (1981). 6.4 IMDB, but 81% RT. Box office failure. Hilarious, and a topless Julie Andrews (sigh).
Red Dawn (1984). 6.3/48%. Not my favorite movie, but worth a watch. Surprising decision to not utterly vilify (unhumanize) the Russian antagonists.
You just listed a bunch of great films. All of them reason to ignore the reviews and ratings. I love Big Trouble. One of Russel’s campiest and most fun films.
This guy just won the thread. 🥇
Gee, thanks!
Wait what? Big trouble in little china got- Pardon I'm gonna need to process that for a moment as that's one of the few things me and my stepdad will call time out on arguments on. It's a great carpenter adventure movie. It's literally a sendup of the modenr john wayne archatype. Hell, jack isn't even stupid, he's just, to borrow a tv tropes term, wrong genre savvy. Also I recommend the boom comics when/if you can.
it contextualizes him refusing to kiss Grace Law at the end and... it is utter heartache in the best way.
Dredd ... needed a netflix mega city one police proceedural followup. with Urban's Dread showing up a couple times when thigns get above everyone's heads both to prevent his overuse and to remind everyone WHY he is feared.
I'm gonna admit i saw the Dune novels as overrated, but i liked that the 80's movie tried to have fun while telling the story.
Well at the point red dawn was made, we were starting to thaw on the russians, even as Regan kept juicing the Empire of Evil rhetoric. The message 'war destroys everyone' is a good one.
Great choices, I gotta watch the ones you mentioned I haven't seen yet.
I just ignore imdb all together. The ratings they give are not useful and seem almost random.
Yeah, normally I do. It just happened my quick-n-dirty web searches were returning mostly IMDB and rarely Rotten Tomatoes, so that's what I used.
Wizards was awesome!
That was such a fantastic ending.
Yeah. I don't know if I'd claim it is the best movie ever made, but it's certainly my favorite movie.
And, hey! We now have an IRL Blackwolf; we only need an Avatar.
Super Mario Bros (1993)
It was objectively a trainwreck but it was awesome when you were 8 and It brought video games to the big screen for the first time. I will always love it.
There are dozens of us who agree. Dozens.
Shout-out to the fansite: https://SMBMovie.com
My friend Garrett Gilchrist has bee trying to restore that movie to something closer to Morton and Jankel's original vision for years now. I keep meaning to watch it because I do think that the movie had a lot of good ideas even if it was a mess.
https://archive.org/details/super-mario-bros-1993-the-morton-jankel-cut-extended-vhs_202207
People also forget that what most Americans knew about Mario at the time was that he jumped on mushrooms and turtles to rescue the princess.
But Morton and Jankel made both versions of the Max Headroom TV series. I absolutely give them credit.
The Day After Tomorrow - It's campy but underrated
Had one gag that made me literally LOL... intentionally...
They're trapped in a library, debating the morality of burning books in the fireplace to stay alive.
"How about all these tax books, can we burn these?"
Also:
"Is there a chance that it will run..." grabs a bottle "...on this?"
"Are you mad? That's a twelve years old scotch!" reveals cups
How is this movie underrated?? It's popular af!
Despite not rewatching this movie in over a decade, I think about it monthly.
Costner’s Robin Hood. Rickman is awesome.
Excalibur. Just an over the top film.
Pretty much all of the shitty ‘80s action films, from Commando to Bloodsport. They’re awful fun.
Dang, Prince of Thieves got bad ratings? I always just assumed everyone loved it like I did.
51% at Rotten Tomatoes. Not awful, but not great.
Cancel Christmas!
Jupiter Ascending is, in my opinion, a masterpiece. Bees can sense royalty? Fantastic. The bureaucracy android having to bribe his way through the system he was literally created to navigate? Marvelous. Don't even get me started on the air roller skates. Eddie Redmayne's four million year old teenager was perfection too. Two volume levels: harsh whisper or screaming.
It was marketed as some kind of amazing epic, so people approached it wrong I think. It was a Wachowski film. What were they expecting? I went in there assuming it'd be like their Speed Racer movie, but in space. I was not disappointed.
Second vote would be for Speed Racer, lol.
I saw this years ago in a sci fi double feature at this big old cinema in my city, had Interstellar followed by Jupiter Ascending. I loved it, this very serious dry high concept hard sci fi followed by fuckin rocket boots!
"Ninjas? More like 'Non-Jas'. Shame what passes for a Ninja these days..."
And with that, John Goodman became my favorite, ever. :)
My biggest issue with that movie was the complete lack of chemistry between Mila Kunis and that beefy guy who was her love interest. I found that painful to watch.
Lol about Jupiter ascending. I wanted so bad for that movie to be good just because mila kuntis. I cant call it a masterpiece.
Josie and the Pussycats.
Rated 5.7 by people who had no clue what it was saying at the time. I feel like if it was released in today's pop culture environment it would fare far far better.
It's far more satirical, clever and funny than an Archie adjacent bubblegum pop movie has any right to be.
You are not the first person I have read say it about that movie, so I am definitely going to have to check it out.
I'm your back door lover
The new Total Recall. It’s a fun ride.
I thought it was good as a serious sci-fi movie; but I still prefer the campy-ass original as an action/comedy.
I adore the original, but I'll die on the hill that the Total Recall remake is great fun and worth watching.
Although usually spoofs don’t get any good rating I think this one should be an exception:
Scary movie 3
It honestly did it better than the movies it was making fun of. And it was truly about a scary movie (the tape from the ring).
Also, crack high voltage is way more fun than the rating lets on.
Stay
Massively underrated film imo.
The Last Dragon and Bloodsports.
The last dragon is one of my favorite movies of all time. That last fight scene man so much nostalgia right there.
13th Warrior. Solid action. Antonio Banderas and Vikings. Dudes taking care of business.
I enjoyed it for the most part, but the scene that’s always stuck with me is when Antonio Banderas’s character learns to speak the Viking language. Hearing the way he said “I listened” made me want to listen more to see what I could learn.
That was a great line
I like that movie quite a bit. Watched it many times. Didn't realize it was so critically disliked. :(
Bears?
IS THERE A CAVE?
Was that the one loosely based on Beowulf? I saw it in the theater and didn't have a problem with it.
Aha!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_13th_Warrior
"based on Michael Crichton's 1976 novel Eaters of the Dead,[5] which is a loose adaptation of the tale of Beowulf combined with Ahmad ibn Fadlan's historical account of the Volga Vikings."
Crichton, man. His influence was just astounding. Obligatory "fuck cancer".
When you die can I give that to me sister?
Definitely a 10/10 movie for me. Without hesitation.
This is one of those that HBO or something played non-stop for no apparent reason. It took me like 20 times clicking past it to finally watch it all but in the end I was ok with it.
Robot Jox... We can both live!
Watched it so many times back in the day. My friend had it on laser disc of all things
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Tron Legacy
Guyver: Dark Hero
Strange Days (get the ultimate extended edition fan edit if you can.)
Wild Wild West
Demolition Man
Judge Dredd
Highlander II
.....
Jacob Barlow vs the Demonic Toys
There are a lot of fun movies that are considered garbage.
Highlander II
Liking Highlander II is so far out of my worldview that I didn't realise it was an option. What was it you enjoyed about the film?
Keep in mind i am not at all going to claim it is... Good. or logical... or any of that, but it had the almighty BALLS to go big with being WEIRD.
Strange Days is one of my favorite movies, ever! Tough I think it got good reviews but failed at the box office. (I stand corrected, it polarized the reviewers according to Wikipedia.
Judge Dredd was quite good even though Stallone took the helmet off a bunch. IIRC he was willing to do the whole thing in helmet, but I bet the money guys needed to see his face.
Never thought I'd see the Angel Family on film, that was wild!
Bonus: The actor playing psychotic cannibal Pa Angel would go on to be the kindly farmer Herschel on Walking Dead.
Wait... Stallone Dredd, or Urban Dredd? Because the Stallone one was awful and a crime against the source material, while the second should have had an immediate sequel.
League I can't even put into the "so bad it's good" category, as much as I'd like to. I think I can't forgive them for wasting such a cast and such a source on the result.
I hated Legacy, but entirely for reasons having to do with loyalty to the original; it isn't faithful to the original vision, IMO. That aside, I can grant it was better than it was received.
🤝 on Strange Days. Fantastic soundtrack, too. Did it get bad reviews? I thought it did reasonably well.
Same for WWW - didn't it do well? I thought it was brilliantly irreverent of history. Fun times. Same for Demolition Man!
Highlander II, though... No. Just no. A running joke with a couple of my friends is that they insist we all saw it together in the theater, but I insist I've never seen it. They say it was so bad that I just blacked out my memory to avoid the emotional trauma of having seen it. Honestly though, I have no memory of the film yet a deep revulsion at the idea of watching it.
Stallone Dreadd.
I am in complete agreement with everything you said about it being a crime against 2000 AD Dreadd, yet if one can excize rob schnider from it? It's popcorn. I've asked a few fan editors to have a crack at it because for me it has the same issue as Constantine. It is its own thing I can both appreciate it for being its own thing while also being a crime against the source material..
Urban Dredd? I kept hoping netflix would pick that up as the pilot to a mega city one police proceedural. that was just some solid movie making and wish we'd gotten more, though conceed 'what would you do for a sequel?' thus the idea of direct to stremaing platform show giving any of a number of plots time and space to breathe.
For me Tron Legacy was a case of 'disney squandered what they had, then when that one airbrushed movie bombed and they got the MCU they shelved Tron' ... likely permenently. Had a fun soundtrack. Ya the father/son story is a cliche but it's more an excuse to tour the world more than anything. I liked Legacy's look as both Kevin's use of late 80's 'money is no object' hardware vs late 70's likely PDP based hardware alongside software changes. After all by the end of the eighties the Unix Wars had happened and the landscape had changed. Plus Uprising, while flawed, had promise and showed what life was like in the early days of the regime when CLU kept a facad of normalcy.
Strange Days feels like one of those movies a LOT of people sleep on and gloss over. I am seriously recommending finding the fan edit scene and seeking it out, because the work done just.... elevates it.
I can respect your opinions of Highlander II. again, fan edits do a lot to save this one for me but even at base 'eh it's in the slush pile of shit movies I can run in the background. It's goofy it's dumb... run with it.' Then again I've kinda hated most of the highlander movies past the first one for having very little that interests me. Though I did love the show. It was a fun ride even when it got weird. Though I will admit it is guilty of helping popularize the 'katanas are just better' trope.
Resident Evil: Welcome To Raccoon City is a very decent movie. It doesn't deserve the hate it gets.
Death Race 2050
I'd be in the 9% that rated Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus 10 on imdb.
I had to buy the DVD a second time as someone stole my first one it is that good.
i loved that movie but i always tune out at the ending fight scene
Great recommendations in here. One thing that surprised me personally was
civil war (2024)
great movie, had a blast. Was surprised rotten tomatoes / IMDb seemed to hate it.
My running theory on this is the Americans really didn't like how close it hits home/stings, and just gave it a bad rating
I wouldn't say 81% fresh and a 7/10 are necessarily bad. I might rate it a little higher personally, but those are decent scores.
Though as Coaxil says, given curent events I'm not sure I can ever re-watch it. :(
Oh cool, its audience score seems to have improved considerably compared to last time I checked‽ That is good news for the filmmakers.
the hitting close to home part - yeah I get it. If you are in a red state I hope you stay safe and find a way out of the situation. It sucks so bad if the government stops working for you.
Weekend at Bernie's, I really like it.
Eye of the Beholder is still one of my old favorites. Nobody I've shown it to has ever appreciated it like I do and it's not well rated. Most people appreciate my movie recommendations, but this is one of the outliers. It's 9% on rotten tomatoes 32% audience score and a 5 on IMDB
Off topic but it needs to be said :
Star wars 7, 8 and 9 aren't terrible. Or if they are, they are in the same way 4, 5 and 6 were. (we don't talk about 1, 2 and 3)
Nostalgia is not a synonym for quality.
I'll dissolve into the force on that hill.
You may resume your ongoing activities.
7 and 8 aren't terrible.
No, they aren't terrible .....they are gawd awful.
Idiocracy
Big Trouble
I think everyone should see the 2019 Cats. I was not bored, and I had a strong emotional reaction to the movie. Was it shit? Oh absolutely, in ways that I didn't even know movies could be shit. But it was not boring! So if I were going to recommend a movie to someone who hadn't seen it yet, Cats would be near the top of that list.
Movies that I actually love despite them having poor ratings...
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Event Horizon - 6.6 IMDB / 35% RT - Haunted house in space. Great performances from a great cast. Properly fucked up. Love seeing blue collar workers in scifi.
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Death to Smoochy - 6.3 IMDB / 42% RT - See Robin Williams go hard on the R-rating playing a children's show host on a downward spiral. One of my favorite Williams performances.
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Legend (1985) - 6.3 IMDB / 41% RT - Shot entirely inside of a huge bag of cocaine. All vibes, don't question any of it, logic has no place here. Watch the theatrical cut with Tangerine Dream, because the director's cut with Jerry Goldsmith is honestly just vague fantasy noodling, and the 80s power jams are at least 40% of the charm.
Wait. Event Horizon has bad ratings.
That movie rocked.
I really like the fanon that it's a prequel to Warhammer 40k before the Gellar Field was invented.
If Event Horizon has bad ratings that is my answer, love that movie, I thought it was universally considered good though.
Death to Smoochy is such a good movie. It was just terribly marketed.
I think the thing with Cats is that it's totally OK if a broadway musical has no plot and doesn't make sense, you're going for the experience.
Film has a history of narrative and you just can't drop in a word like "jellicle" and expect to get away with it.
OTOH complaining about jellicle in Cats would be a lot like walking out of a Smurfs movie complaining about "Man, they sure do say 'Smurf' a lot."
I think the thing with Cats is that it's totally OK if a broadway musical has no plot and doesn't make sense
As a lover of musicals, HELL no! Cats is probably the worst musical I've ever seen and that's INCLUDING every amateur production. Yes, school play originals too.
Apart from the not making sense, it has ONE great song (the others ranging from awful to meh), which it repeats so many times that you're on the verge of getting tired of it by the time the Elder Kitty reveals that cats aren't dogs.
-10/10, would force Trump, Musk, Putin, and Netanyahu to watch on repeat until they die as punishment for their crimes against humanity.
complaining about jellicle in Cats would be a lot like walking out of a Smurfs movie complaining about "Man, they sure do say 'Smurf' a lot."
Thing is, there's a lot about the source material that, if you're not there for it, then you shouldn't even be in the theatre. No plot, sexy cat monsters, absurd lyrics, that's all there from the beginning. No, the 2019 movie is fucked up in ways that have nothing to do with T. S. Eliot or Andrew Lloyd Webber.
I saw part of Cats, but I refuse to watch it until they release the butthole cut.
Shit, I forgot about Legend! I didn't consider it because I thought it did OK, critically.
Shot entirely inside of a huge bag of cocaine.
I'm saving that one; it's funny, because it's true. You can also say that about Caddyshack, except that the latter was literally fueled by cocaine - I think it's been confirmed that almost everyone involved was high during filming.
I've seen two versions of the film; one I don't like as much only because small differences cause cognitive dissonance - I have the first version I saw mostly memorized line-by-line, and the other version is just enough off to feel awkward. I thought they were just different cuts for different media - film vs VHS, for instance - but now I wonder which is "my" original. Probably not the director's cut, since I'm pretty sure I first saw it in the theater, and then repeatedly on cable which was probably just the theatrical release.
Are you sure no Tangerine Dream is in the theatrical release?
Post-production
Scott's first cut of Legend ran 125 minutes long. He then believed there were minor plot points that could be trimmed and cut the film down to 113 minutes, so he tested this version for an audience in Orange County. However, it was decided that the audience had to work too much to be entertained, and another 20 minutes was cut. The 95-minute version was shown in Great Britain and then the film was cut down even further to 89 minutes for North America.
At the time, Scott said, "European audiences are more sophisticated. They accepted preambles and subtleties whereas the U.S. goes for a much broader stroke." He and Universal delayed the North American theatrical release until 1986 so that they could replace Jerry Goldsmith's score with music by Tangerine Dream, Yes lead singer Jon Anderson, and Bryan Ferry.
Scott allowed Goldsmith's score to remain on European prints and the composer said, "that this dreamy, bucolic setting is suddenly to be scored by a techno-pop group seems sort of strange to me". Normally, Goldsmith would spend 6–10 weeks on a film score, but for Legend, he spent six months writing songs and dance sequences ahead of time.
The Goldsmith score is... fine, I guess, but it doesn't convey the intense 80s-ness of the movie as well as Tangerine Dream. It's like Flash Gordon or Highlander without the Queen songs.
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I will stand by Pauly Shore's Pinocchio as pure art, but I can't promise that I've ever seen it sober, or that I've sat through the entire thing (I may have?).
I also enjoyed Wonka which has decent ratings but I've always heard people talking shit on it.
Watched som in law recently, he breaks character in the dorms and it's hilarious. Solid, but predictable movie.
Lost River (2014)
Rise of Skywalker. I loved it :-)
EDIT - I should say, I didn't properly read the thread title, and I wouldn't put RoS in my "top list". I just gave it as an example of a movie that's generally disliked but that I enjoyed.
I'm curious, did you consume other non-movie Star Wars media before, like books and animates series? I have a theory that the most dislike for the new trilogy comes from them basically "rewriting history" so to speak - cancelling all the characters and events already established in the universe.
I mean I don't think they are amazingly good movies even in isolation, but I can see someone liking them for the fun factor at least.
Nah, just the movies, going back to when I was about 6 or 7 years old. Love the OT, hate the prequels, loved TFA and RoS, hated TLJ, really enjoyed Rogue One and haven't seen Solo or any of the Disney TV series. Never had any interest in the books or animations.
Only non movie media (not including some little action figure toys, long since lost, and a few video games) was this The Story of Star Wars vinyl record, which is basically just the audio from Ep IV with narrator filling in the gaps! 😁
Cancelling all the unofficial canon stuff was a mistake though, guaranteed to piss off a lot of people, while not really benefiting anyone who hadn't explored it.
Rise of Skywalker wasn't good, but I give it a pass because of the just awful situation they were in.
Last Jedi shit the bed and painted them into a corner, then Carrie Fisher up and died when the 3rd film was supposed to be "hers", the way Force Awakens was Han and Last Jedi was Luke, and the OG writer/director got bounced. :(
I really don't know what they could have done, but I'll still die for Babu Frik.
Last Jedi shit the bed and painted them into a corner,
Definitely agree with that. There was so much course correction needed after that mess.
I enjoyed RoS a lot though - for me it did everything a Star Wars movie needed to do, great visuals, exciting battles, good and evil, ordinary people coming together to fight a fascist enemy.
Ok, lots of it was very silly plotwise, but just as an experience I was left feeling pumped up, whereas TLJ left me feeling like I was done with Star Wars, it was just so awkward.
Yeah, I thought the new trilogy were all pretty good tbh.
I wasn't a fan of the middle one tbh, but the other two, definitely 😁
No idea what the actual ratings are, but the live action remake of Aladdin was absolutely shat on by most of the internet. The original Aladdin was one of my absolute favorites as a kid, so I was gonna see the remake good or bad, and... honestly, fucking loved it.
I'm guessing the main breaking point for people was the lack of Robin Williams' Genie, but Disney had the option of trying recreate that genie without Robin Williams or completely remake that character's personality. Had they gone with the former, it 100% would have 1) flopped, and 2) been kinda disrespectful to Robin Williams imo. Starting fresh was the correct choice. And Will Smith did awesome with his version of Genie.
Beyond that, it introduced just enough new shit to make it not just feel like a frame-by-frame copy/paste of the original; but overall kept the same fun mystical vibe of the original.
It earns its spot on the shelf, imo.
The Green Hornet with Seth Rogan was my favourite film for a long time. I did not understand why people didn’t love it as much as I did.
Gentlemen Broncos
YEAST LORDS!
I have two:
Chalet Girl - Romcom meets 1980s style Aspen Ski Challenge, Felicity Jones, Bill Nighy, Brooke Shields, and Ed Westwick. I personally love it. It's a great movie to throw on for a boring day, it has some feels, it's story is predictable but fun - it's not winning an Oscar but I enjoy it. 5/5 personal scale, 3/5 general rotten tomatoes
21 - Very lame smart guy meets Vegas, not a heist, not the social network - Jim Sturgess, Kate Bosworth, Kevin Spacey. Didn't know this was that high up except for I have multiple plays of it. I watched it after having surgery and remember thinking it was amazing - and then watched it later on less pain killers and thought "Oh, well, it's fine." 3/5 personal scale, 1/5 general rotten tomatoes.
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21 was a letdown for me because I read the book first. It’s a great read, fast, light, and fun. The movie just felt thin in comparison.
I remember seeing 21. I honestly didn't know it got bad reviews. It seemed fine for what it was.
Street Kings, 2008.
Has anyone mentioned "the room"? Im gonna reccommend it. It's so bad, it's good.
Convoy. Old trucks, Kris Kristofferson, bad acting big explosions and beautiful women. And that soundtrack, chef’s kiss 👌
“Because we got a great big convoy…”
If anyone wanted to know what the OST was:
Reminiscence - gotta admit the story kinda fell on flat note, especially with all the potentials in their world building, but I think it's a work of art
Ad Astra - yes, it's like Apocalypse Now (i.e. Into The Heart of Darkness) with a zest of daddy issue, but visually, they got some absolutely magnificent cinematography
Not sure if this is what you are asking for, but:
My favorite movies with absolutely ridiculus plots are:
- Olympus Has Fallen
spoiler
The USA is under attack by a plane that somehow got in the borders without getting shot down, while enemy ground teams posing as tourists attacks the white house, while the plane above provides support. And the country behind it is... NORTH KOREA? 🤣
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- London Has Fallen
spoiler
Similar to before but now its some middle eastern "terrorist" that wants to kill all world leaders, with some of the Queen's Guard turning out to be terrorists? 🧐
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- Moonfall
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The moon falls towards earth, because... Aliens... lol 🌚
Lotta falling in your picks
The best thing about London Has Fallen is when Gerard Butler has a conversation with a fellow Scot, and you can almost see his natural accent tearing a hole in his face to get out.
The first one was violent fun though. Kind of 80s.
- Michael Mans 'Miami Vice' 2006. Absolute shit rating is probably to hard, but the reviews back then were underwhelming (I remember 'style over substance' as a quote)
- The original XXX with Vin Diesel. It feels that nobody got the joke, that it is a parody of the James Bond movies, although a James Bond look alike literally gets killed within the first scenes of the movie...
I've always thought percy jackson and the Olympians was alright. Sure it's not exactly a 1:1 with the books but I enjoyed them
Sure it's not exactly a 1:1 with the books but I enjoyed them
Lol. Agreed.
The weird part is that it's nearly a perfect remake for like the first 40 minutes. You can almost call out almost the exact moment when they ran out of budget and decided to CGI bullshit their way through remaining minutes of runtime.
Discovering it has brought me so much joy (pretty sure someone posted it here, actually). My jaw literally dropped at times as I adjusted to what I was seeing--like pure parody, but it was attempted so whole-heartedly and earnestly. The best kind of bad movie, the one that tries so hard. If it isn't peak 80's, PLEASE tell me what is so I can literally watch it tonight (if within the next ~6 minutes before I get in my jammies).
Miami connection is such a great movie. Say what you will about the film, but the effort that went into it was genuine and it's fun to watch because the actors were having fun.
Also, the two songs they wrote are genuine bangers with hilarious lyrics
You'd probably enjoy Hard Ticket to Hawaii.
I'm familiar with one Frisbee scene I love, but never watched the whole thing.
I'm partial to Last Days on Mars, and I'm one of those weirdos who loved both the book and movie versions of Cloud Atlas.
I liked Battlefield Earth
Oh, god.
I mean, maybe if I had no awareness of Scientology and Hubbard, but not only was it awful, it was hard to watch knowing the cult connection. It's like The Passion of Christ, but for Scientologists.
I'm uncertain of what the ratings are in general, but there's probably some horror movie I love that's been dragged.
Maybe Insidious? Paranormal Activity 2? As Above, So Below? The Cleansing Hour?
One of those probably has a shit score somewhere lol.
EDIT because I realized how lazy I was being:
Insidious has a 66% on rotten tomatoes Paranormal Activity 2 has a 57% As Above, So Below has a 29% The Cleansing Hour has a shocking 73%
So my answer is As Above, So Below. Lol But I'm startled about The Cleansing Hour having such a high rating
Okay. Unrelated and it's driving me insane.
How do I do line breaks for lists like that? If I do two hits of Enter, it acts like a new paragraph in total. But I can't get it to just jump down to the next line, it just follows after the one above it as if it were continuing a sentence. Bwah!
In Markdown, if you want a paragraph break, then whack Enter twice. That is, this:
foo barGives this:
foo
bar
If you want a line break, then add a backslash or two spaces at the end of the line, and then hit Enter. That is, this (you can't see it, but two spaces after "foo"):
foo bar\ bazGives this:
foo
bar
bazWhen I'm doing an actual list, I generally prefer to do either an unnumbered or numbered list, though.
* foo * barGives this:
- foo
- bar
And for numbered lists:
1. foo 2. barGives this:
- foo
- bar
It doesn't look from that like Markdown is buying you much with the numbered lists (traditionally in Markdown, numbered lists were auto-renumbered, which is IMHO a bad idea and is one feature of Markdown that is not implemented here), but this gets useful if you want to do lists with multiple lines, which is done with a four-space prefix on successive lines:
1. foo\ My dog adores foo. 2. bar\ Some cats fancy bar.Gives this:
- foo
My dog adores foo. - bar
Some cats fancy bar.
I just press enter
Leave a space in the blank line here then press enter
There you go, break in the paragraph.
As above, so below having 29% seems a bit crazy. That shit freaked me out.
It's after 3 AM and I need to shut down, but for a second there I thought you were talking about "Faraway, So Close", which is the sequel to "Wings of Desire", one of my favorite films ever.
54% on the tomatometer, could stand to go lower. :(
Perhaps "The Missing Postman" - not sure if it actually got canned or is just unknown though.
Alaska. That movie with Dirk Benedict, Thora Birch, a yellow Piper Cub and northern nature.
There are a ton of comedies where the critic ratings are low but the audience is high.
Grandma's Boy 15 critic 85 audience was the one that is at the top of my head. Hot damn that is a spread, and I am with the audience.
I always go by audience. The fact that they are critics seems like a type of selection bias.
The audience has its own self selection bias, as it is people interested in seeing the movie. That is the best group to rate whether the target audience is satisfied with the end result.
I only look at audience for horror and comedy.
Can't believe the audience score for that is so high lol
