They bring that up regularly, but it's a false equivalence. At the time of the independence vote it was absolutely true to claim that voting No was true best way to stay in the EU. There was no expectation, none, from anyone that Brexit was on the way. So, at the time, if Europe was the issue then voting to stay in the UK was the logical choice to make.
As for now - well, Swinney (and before him Sturgeon herself) was talking in terms of winning a majority of seats being a mandate for opening independence talks. That's clearly nonsense, since a majority of seats is possible with a fairly small plurality of votes. And, it's looking like it's a moot point anyway, since the SNP seems to have taken a right good kicking this time round.
So Sturgeon is probably not bringing this up tonight because she'd look ridiculous to do so given the (apparent) results in Scotland tonight. If this was a referendum on independence as she and Swinney have suggested, then the result would appear to be a solid No.
Two Tories defected to them, and neither of them were standing for election this time, it was just a gesture against Sunak (although I do wish Labour had told them to fuck off).
And as for the S*n, they just put their weight behind whoever is going to win.
Labour and Starmer are far from perfect, but I think they will be far better, even if just from a competence and basic human decency standpoint.
It's a tricky one, I want the Tories annihilated, but less so if it brings Reform in, shudder.
Peter Mandelson? I think he had a point in that Starmer has changed the party from unelectable with Corbyn (which sadly, they were) to a more than realistic prospect for a sensible alternative to the Tories.
You're right of course that the Conservatives have utterly fucked the pooch (not to mention the country) but Starmer has nonetheless made a massive change in making the party palatable to many, many more people (not that I personally agree with quite a lot of his policies and policy reversals)
"humans - such as I am"
PMSL :-)
A party like Reform getting even a single seat is bad for the long-term prospects of this country.
Yeah, puts a real damper on seeing the Tories get the electoral shit kicked out of them to see those fucking Reform loons given access to the Commons.
I'm a team player!
Jeepers. Will steer well clear, thanks!
Oh ok - is the browser dodgy in some way? I'm not familiar with it.
Great thread this, loads to check out.
I'll recommend Songhoy Blues from Mali, and Gaspar Nali of Malawi, both excellent.
I'll need to check that out, sounds good. In return, I'll recommend the Beginner's Guide to African Funk, a 3 CD set full of absolute gems.
Not a party, but I'm staying up to watch those Tory fucks get their baws booted in, all across the country.
I've no massive love for Starmer, but I do believe at least that he's a decent enough human being and reasonably competent. Both of which put him miles and miles ahead of anyone from the Conservative Party.
Why? I've never used it, so not disagreeing, but that seems a pretty strong reaction to a search engine.
Agreed. It's properly fucked up. Genuinely worried about the state of the States in the next few years if the Dems don't get their acts together and win in November (and even if they do, tbh)
RIP Martin Mull
Mull, known for his droll and esoteric comedy, dies after ‘valiant fight against a long illness’, says daughter
More sad news, as Gene Parmesan/Colonel Mustard himself passes away. RIP Martin 😞
To Norway: An Apology
Sorry Norway. Our jammy win in Oslo robbed you of a chance to experience a major tournament. Instead, your place went to a badly organised rabble, with no urgency, no ambition and not even basic ball control.
You should have been in this tournament, and that disgraceful excuse for a Scotland team should have been languishing in 3rd or 4th. How in god's name did we beat Spain?
Sorry Norway, you deserved better.
Scotland qualification scenarios
Of limited interest, I'm sure, but I spent a bit of time working all this out, and wanted to post it before Scotland go 2 down after 5 minutes tomorrow and render it all moot...
So.
If Scotland lose to Hungary, we're out. No ifs, buts, or maybes.
If we draw then we need at least 2 out of 3 scenarios to happen in order to sneak through:
- Spain beat Albania AND Italy beat Croatia
- Turkey beat Czechia AND Portugal beat Georgia
- Denmark beat Georgia AND England beat Slovenia by 5 or more (I think)
If Scotland win against Hungary then any 2 (or more) of these scenarios gets us through
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Spain avoid defeat to Albania (Scotland would finish better than Albania and also better than one of Croatia or Italy, regardless of their result)
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Netherlands beat Austria (Scotland would be ahead of both Austria and Poland)
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England avoid defeat to Slovenia (Scotland would be ahead of Slovenia and also at least one of Denmark or Serbia).
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There's also the possibility that Slovenia hammer England (Scotland could finish better than England on goal difference and also would be ahead of at least one of Denmark or Serbia)
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Portugal avoid defeat to Georgia (Scotland would be ahead of Georgia and also ahead of one of Turkey or Czechia)
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Even if Georgia did win, we could beat them on GD, but we'd have to thrash Hungary, so not likely.
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No draws on match day 3 in group E. Doesn't matter who wins, as long as two teams do.
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Or, if there are 1 or 2 draws in group E then it comes down to goal difference, so we would have to hammer Hungary, see above.
And yes, I made a spreadsheet to work all this out... :-)
[Match Thread] Gibralter v Scotland Euro 2024 warm up friendly
Come on Scotland fans, let's get this community up and running in advance of Scotland's forthcoming run to becoming European champions!
0' - Game has just kicked off, 0-0 15' - Decent start, couple of really good chances already for Hanley and Forrest, both probably should have been buried. 30' - Scotland in control, but can't get a shot on target. HT - Same old Scotland, never scoring... 58' - GOAL! Christie slams it home after getting into a bit of a fankle with Shankland (a shankle? A fankland?) Nice ball in by Robertson too. 85' - GOAL! Adams. I didn't see it, but apparently it was a good one 👍
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Lineups:
>Gibraltar (Manager: Julio Ribas, Formation: 5 - 4 - 1)
1 J. Hankins | 2 E. Jolley | 12 J. Olivero | 8 J. Scanlon | 6 B. Lopes | 4 J. Sergeant | 9 A. El Hmidi | 5 L. Annesley | 19 T. De Barr | 10 L. Walker (c) | 20 E. Britto
Subs 3 J. Chipolina | 7 L. Casciaro | 11 E. De Haro | 13 C. López | 14 T. Carrington | 15 E. Llambias | 16 J. Bartolo | 17 K. Ronan | 18 L. Jessop | 21 M. Ruiz | 22 K. Ronco | 23 D. Coleing | 24 E. Santos
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>Scotland (Manager: Steve Clarke, Formation: 4 - 2 - 3 - 1)
21 Z. Clark | 22 R. McCrorie | 3 A. Robertson (c) | 23 K. McLean | 15 R. Porteous | 5 G. Hanley | 11 R. Christie | 14 B. Gilmour | 19 L. Shankland | 7 J. McGinn | 25 J. Forrest
Subs 1 A. Gunn | 2 A. Ralston | 6 K. Tierney | 8 C. McGregor | 10 C. Adams | 12 L. Kelly | 13 J. Hendry | 16 L. Cooper | 17 G. Taylor | 20 R. Jack | 24 C. Gordon | 26 S. McKenna
Lyndon Dykes: Scotland striker ruled out of Euro 2024 [BBC Sport]
Scotland striker Lyndon Dykes will miss Euro 2024 after sustaining a training ground injury on Friday.
Could have done without this. Not that I rate Dykes all that highly, but we're already thin on forwards. Someone wrap Shankland up in bubble wrap!
Manchester United decide to sack Erik ten Hag regardless of Cup final outcome [The Guardian]
Manchester United have decided to sack Erik ten Hag as their manager after the FA Cup final against Manchester City
Great timing. Unless they're thinking they might get a new manager bounce without actually appointing a new manager?
VAR: Premier League clubs to vote on whether to scrap video assistant referees - BBC Sport
Premier League clubs will vote on whether to scrap video assistant referees (VAR) from next season at their annual general meeting next month.
Oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please... 🤞🤞🤞
Jack Nicholson, Charles Bronson and Robert De Niro were some of the actors whose careers he helped develop.
RIP Roger, thanks for Gunslinger, The Undead, Deathstalker and the Warriors from Hell and so many more.
Fans’ body pledges ‘studs to the knee’ response if Game 39 plans are revived | Premier League [The Guardian]
The Football Supporters’ Association hit out at renewed talk of plans to stahge Premier League games outside England and Wales after Richard Masters had said ‘the door looks ajar’
FFS, not this bullshit again... Hopefully fan pressure can fight it off just like last time.
Feature suggestion - enable swiping between multiple photos in a post/comment
Example post: https://lemmy.world/post/14058825
I've no idea if this is technically possible at all, but on posts like the one above, where multiple images have been added, it would be really handy to be able to swipe between them as if they were in a gallery. At present it's a case of open one, close it, open the next, etc...
Same for comments, not sure if that would be different than posts.
Thanks :-)
Underworld at the Usher Hall
How fucking great was that??
If you're going tomorrow night, you're in for a treat, what a set!
Edinburgh Filmhouse set to reopen following funding boost - BBC News
The independent cinema has received a £1.5m grant from the UK government.
Great news this, really happy to see the Filmhouse opening up again!
Edinburgh Filmhouse set to reopen following funding boost - BBC News
The independent cinema has received a £1.5m grant from the UK government.
Great news! So glad to see the Filmhouse reopening :-)
Edinburgh Filmhouse set to reopen following funding boost - BBC News
The independent cinema has received a £1.5m grant from the UK government.
Great news this, was such a shame to see the Filmhouse closed. So glad it's not been turned into a chain pub or something.
Blue cards to be introduced into football for sin-bins under Ifab trials [The Guardian]
Plans to introduce blue cards to send players to a sin-bin are to be unveiled by Ifab
TLDR - Blue cards will be for dissent and cynical fouls. Two blues means red. Blue plus yellow also equals red.
Weird.
Carl Weathers RIP
Carl Weathers, former NFL player turned Hollywood actor who starred as Apollo Creed in the Rocky movies, dies aged 76
Very sad news that AD regular (and of course, director of Scandalmakers), Carl Weathers, has left us. Hopefully he's already got a stew going up in heaven.
Klopp to leave as Liverpool boss at end of season [BBC Sport]
Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp is to step down from the role at the end of the season, saying he is "running out of energy".
😬 😲 😢
Robertson set to return for Liverpool in EFL Cup [BBC Sport]
Preview followed by live coverage of Wednesday's EFL Cup game between Fulham and Liverpool.
Great news for Liverpool and for Scotland! Fingers crossed he comes through the rest of the season unscathed and leads us to glory in Germany!