Birds and dogs shit all over the street then you people wear your shoes in the house!? 🤢
Make sure you take your dog's shoes off, too.
The two dogs I had were easily taught to wait on the floor mat right by the door. Once someone wiped their paws with a towel they would proceed forward. 🤷🏼
A lot of people's dogs are trained to wait inside at the door for their paws to get wiped down before walking into the house/apartment/whatever.
But sure, if the dog did go walk outside with boots/shoes then yeah their owner would obviously take them off once they were back inside.
If it’s wet or snowy out, I throw down a town on my way out, so my dog has no choice but to step on a towel on the way in. Combine that with using a leash and she has no choice but to stop until I’m satisfied with her feet
My sister-in-law does similar with a bucket of clean water, so she even gets dry dirt off, but that’s excessive.
Humans have lived in filth their entire existence and whatever being tracked in, if it’s not visible, it’s cleaner than most of human history and it’s clean enough to not cause harm
You can wash your dog's feet you know.
Guess what, everything has poo and bacteria all over it.
Your keyboard or phone are far more disgusting than any shoe. You’ll live sunshine.
The ley is the amount. If you’re actively tracking more shit into and all around your house you’re going to have more than someone who doesn’t.
Even worse than that - I wear SHOES in the OFFICE. How disgusting is that??!!??
Makes more sense than your private home.
Oh, you even breathe in shit. Nevermind the carpet.
Growing up, we never thought twice about it, we just wore our shoes inside (or didn't) and it was whatever, nobody ever said anything. I grew up in northeast US and the only time we really wouldn't wear shoes in the house would be when it snowed or if we had mud on our shoes, otherwise it helped keep your feet warm. It wasn't until I met my wife that she was like, "What the fuck?" She grew up in Kenya where it was mandatory to not wear shoes. It's so dusty out there most of the time that the house would be a mess if you did wear your shoes inside, so it was just an automatic thing to take them off.
I've only ever seen this done by Americans. They also have really car centric cities. I guess it kinda makes sense to just keep your normal shoes on to warm your feet if they can't get dirty since you mostly only walk indoors.
I'm American and I know people from multiple states and I've never heard of anyone doing this. Always surprises me to see it assigned to us online. I'm sure it must happen in some region of the country but I don't know where.
Not American myself. However, I've seen people from Pennsylvania do this.
Otherwise, for some reason it happens a lot in movies.
From Michigan, it's about 50/50. I don't really think twice about it.
They are monsters. There is NO EXCUSE for wearing dirty shoes indoors, outside a party to which you immediately clean.
As other have said, they're usually not the same shoes I wear outside.
But generally, for the same reason I wear them outside: to protect my feet. Especially if I'm going in and out a lot, like when doing yardwork or grilling.
Every time this question comes up, I can't tell if it's that homes outside the US are much cleaner or streets are much dirtier.
What are you protecting your feet from when relaxing in the living room? Is your coffee table regularly attacking you.
I wear slippers inside mostly to protect agains cold floor, coffee tables, and most important of all, Lego bricks on the loose.
Also another reason to wear shoes inside is when you are constantly going inside and outside. Which means then your floor is dirty.... which means you want to protect your feet from the dirt. That's a vicious cycle but can be one of the reasons.
I was a barefoot all the time person until I got a bunch of cats. Now I need socks.
Slip-on shoes at the door seem to be an alien concept.
Did you not have mothers who'd throw things at your head if you wore your shoes in the house? Were you not better than 'shoes in the house' people?
I explicitly said the shoes I wear inside are different then the ones I wear outside. Don't insult my mother.
This is most common in the US. At any point, a policeman might barge into your house, shoot yout dog and start looking for something else to shoot. If you're wearing shoes already, you've got a head start and a chance to live.
It's a cultural thing. In Poland because of the climate, central heating and probably some other habits everyone has a carpet so you take your shoes off because carpets are hard to clean. In Spain because of the climate you don't have carpets because stone floors help cool the apartment down. Bare stone floors are easy to clean and are cold during winter so you keep your shoes on.
Even in more tropical countries it's healthier to take off your shoes so place in which you sleep and eat is not filled with dust and dirt. I'd say it's mostly cultural heritage and a bad one at that. I've been into many more tropical countries than Spain where people take their shoes off all the same and their winters don't drop below 18°C.
I like to cook, and I like big cooks. My favorite thing to do on a Sunday is wake up and immediately start dinner. Fresh bread, slow roasted meats, things that take time in the kitchen. It's not weird for me to spend hours in there, and a kitchen needs a hard floor because carpet will just absorb spills and become disgusting really quickly. My old ass gets really sore after 5 hours standing barefoot on hard tile, so I have some house shoes that never go outside and help me stay comfortable.
Damn, Sunday sounds decent at yours.
Come thru, we'll make you a plate.
You spelled "incredible" wrong.
Cooking up wholesome copypasta
Will you marry me?
off the market as of about two weeks ago. sorry chuck!
we have those squishy princess pads we put down and wear house slippers but yeah same idea
If you have plantar fasciitis, it can really help with the added support.
There are slippers like Oofos that you can wear at home instead of using shoes.
My dog refuses to wear shoes outside so she’s already tracking dirt (visible or not) in several times a day. I’m always wearing either my outdoor shoes or slippers to keep from exposing my feet. If we did not have a dog than it would make sense to remove shoes as soon as we come inside.
Same. I required people to take shoes off in my house until I got dogs. They track dirt, pine needles, fur all over the place. I still mostly go around in my socks, but I don't expect anybody else to.
Indoor shoes are fine, but wearing outside shoes in is wrong.
Wrong why, though? Is the ground outside really THAT dirty? Even if it is, can you guarantee that the floor in your house isn’t effectively as dirty?
Living in Southern California, where we don’t get much inclement weather, tracking in muddy or otherwise physically dirty shoes in the house isn’t really a concern 95% of the time.
The ground outside is literally made of dirt. It is as dirty as it gets.
The only way your shoes don't get dirty is if you never actually walk on dirt. Which, sounding like you are American, is probably true since everything is concreted over to make space for your cars.
And even then, you never encounter dog shit, right?
Living in Canada the outdoor shoes are unthinkable! So much mud and snow.
But even in good weather there's dog pee and gum and all sorts of junk on the bottom of your shoes.
Ah, this reminds me of uwabaki (上履き) back when I went to elementary school in Japan. Outside shoes and inside shoes which are called Uwabaki are different. The only time I use Uwabaki outside is in an emergency situation. I remember doing this in 2011 Earthquake
Those are similar to what I wear indoors: typically slip on shoes with a soft sole.
For some reason I don't feel productive if I'm not wearing shoes.
When I lived in the Midwest, indoor carpeting was everywhere, and everyone took their shoes off at the door. Probably due to snow and muck and whatever else.
Moved to the east coast and people thought it was weird that I would try to take my shoes off at their door. Most people had hardwood.
I still live on the east coast, and basically I just do what people ask. It generally seems like places that have carpeting ask for shoes off, those that don't, don't.
That's when you're going to someone else's home. In my own home, I have indoor shoes and outdoor shoes. The indoor shoes are basically slip on types. I wear them everywhere inside until I'm going to bed, then they go by the bed.
I have children and I got tired of stepping on shit and walking with a limp because I stepped on a metal truck the size of a dime or whatever.
Because I'm Mr Rogers. When I come home, I take off my jacket & work shoes, and put on my sweater and home shoes. I also sing a song.
Holy shit... I didn't know I was him...
Because I have a "thing" about having those little floor-crunchies on my feet. Floating flooring is nice, but every little thing lays right on top of it.. So instead of constantly dusting the bottoms of my feet off on my calves, I just throw on some house shoes. Freshly cleaned floors excepted.
Because I haven't taken them off
I wear them only to maintain being productive. This is an actual thing a LOT of people with ADHD do to avoid just sitting down and not moving. I give myself about an hour then switch to my slips and usually only maintain my work level for a few more minutes at most.
I have house shoes (that I only wear inside) because orthotics don't fit in slippers
Orthotics are probably no better than a placebo for some conditions.
"Conclusions: Foot orthoses are not superior for improving pain and function compared with sham or other conservative treatment in patients with PHP."
My lifestyle necessitates being able to go outside at a moment's notice.
We have dogs, cats, and kids, trying to maintain the level of cleanliness people are implying you could get by removing shoes just isn't going to happen here. Hardwood floors, Roomba twice a day, and biweekly deep clean.
I take off my shoes at home, but at my best friend's house I leave them on because she has pets and the floors are always filthy.
Pretty much this. The floor at home isn't in good shape, so you choose between shoes or potential splinters. I could get into a whole rant about why I live like this, but this is not the time or place.
My cats track litter everywhere and I keep my bike inside (the bike room in my apartment has a major theft issue). So not like I'm making the floor any dirtier by wearing shoes. I sweep once a week and mop usually every other week, more if needed like if a cat has a particularly pukey week. The floor is for dirty things I don't plan on eating off of it.
Barely related; but I use a square of astroturf to stop my cat tracking which works really well! Unfortunately, because it made the place look so aggressively, manufactured suburban green, I was forced to create a whole
That's the fanciest cat bathroom I've ever seen I love it
I wear mine in the house because I have a collapsed arch on one foot, and both my knees are completely shot. Shoes keep the feet lighed up, and I don't sublux my kneecap nearly as often.
My feet are cold
Fluffy socks or slippers?
I have slip on house shoes that are like slippers but being shoes they have a sole that can keep me from stunning toes on the stuff family members leave around. Plus they are more insulation when the floor is cold.
I don't always take off shoes right at the door though if they aren't wet or have obvious dirt or stuff on the bottom. Yes, that tracks some stuff in but regular floor cleaning takes care of that.
It is funny that the person I know who is the most strict about not wearing shoes in the house likes to walk around barefoot outside and then walks right in the house like her feet didn't pick up the same things as shoes.
The floor is cold.
But there is sleeper for that.
According to my dad, "because if I walk around in socks I always end up stepping in something wet"... I don't know why they just leave wet spots around to step in.
... Then walk barefoot?
It's probably too cold
Is it kids or pets?
Kids apparently lack the mental facilities to clean up after themselves until their 18th birthday.
Are you the kid?
They have neither kids or pets living with them.
Because we want to. It’s our house. We can do what we want.
So, how often do you wash the floors?
He washes them when he wants, okay?
I have to wear orthotics in my shoes. I can't wear them without shoes. One day without shoes had led to months of pain.
Same here, I have house shoes that I need to wear or I'll be in pain for weeks. I bring them with me if I know I'm going to be at someone else's house for a few hours.
pair of slippers and flip-flops that stay indoors, just for indoors. I just hate getting bits of whatever stuck to my socks/feet in between sweeping sessions. Though after a good sweep, I will do a stride of pride sans socks/shoes, just to feel how clean the floor is
For the same reason people wear pants inside the house - it's cold, gets you ready to go out at a moment's notice, etc. - plus shoes add padding. Also... not everyone does, wink:-).
Where I live it's very unnatural. Definitely because of the weather (lots of snow, long winters).
Came here to say the same. I feel like "indoor shoes" are a lot more rare in places where you have a chance of tracking in snow
What do you mean by that? (English is not my native language)
We have a moderate amount of snow and relatively long winters here. Most people wear indoor shoes (slippers, Crocs etc) when inside, at least in their own home. At guests we either get them from the host or you walk on socks.
What does the weather have to do with that?
Many places have indoor and outdoor footware.
So you still wear shoes inside, but not the same shoes you take outside.
You will quickly learn your friends shoes, and start to pick up on signals like whose shoes are outside. Who is home, someone has guests.. all by the shoes.
Because sometimes the dogs bring in goatheads 🙃
My dad does this. He thinks the whole point of wood flooring is that you can wear your shoes inside. He just doesn't like taking his shoes off, no deeper reason to find and he can't really see the gross shit he's tracking in so it may as well not exist.
Does he have reduced mobility?
I've often found folks who have trouble with something "normal" justify not doing it.
No, I think maybe he has low circulation so his feet get cold but who knows.
You tryin' to tell me what to do in my own home? Pssh.
A lot of people half-ass the transition from outside to in and would step with a socked/bare foot right where they just walked with shoes. Meaning the isolation of in and outside dirt is broken. My roommate, the landlord, does this... I'm not gonna chase him around with sanitizer and a mop so, I see the floor being just as dirty as outside and wear socks and slippers all the time. (They also ignore the idea of cleaning or maintaining their house. But that's another issue and a reason I'm looking for me for a 1br)
This is how I feel, the floor is not clean, everyone I know with no shoes in the house rules put their dirty feet into their shoes as they walk out the door and then wonder why their shoes stink, or put their feet up on their couch with black soles, it is way more grimy than just treating the floor as being dirty.
Sick of stepping on crap on the floor. Kids are messy. Also my feet get cold. And socks wear out too fast.
In Ireland it's quite common to just wear your shoes indoor - never quite understood it myself.
Irish here, have always worn shoes in the house. I moved to the US in my twenties and it seems to be about a 50/50 mix of shoes worn indoors or not. Personally, I'd be stubbing my toes all the time if I was only in socks.
I keep stubbing my toe and it's easier to go outside
Cos they want?
the floor is lava
I cannot, for the life of me, imagine wearing outside shoes in the house. I live quite close to a major US city, in what I’d describe as a semi urban dense suburb. There is rabbit shit on every square inch of green space.
Gift article from WaPo https://wapo.st/42LfZqM as there's so much debate.
Long story short, you bring tons of literal shit into your home wearing outside shoes inside. But they recommend inside slippers or equivalent for protection of your feet. I realize you can't stop all shit on your floor but goddammit if I won't try. Also, I think it's obvious when carpeted homes allow shoes as the carpet is matted and gross.
Because sometimes I do chores that require me to be outside? And I'm constantly going in and out, carrying things back and forth, moving tools from the shed to the garage, to the kitchen to hang a shelf, and back outside to put them away? When I do yard work I get sweaty and need a drink of water, and don't feel like taking off my shoes or boots just to go inside for 30 seconds and then put them back on to go back out and continue working.
Every time someone ends a statement with a question mark I read it in the voice of David from Schitt's Creek?
I'm not sure what the problem is when you work in slippers or crocs. I often am barefoot at home but sometimes when it's cold or when I do something that involves water I put on house slippers. When I go outside of the apartment to get the post, to the basement, to the trash, or the balcony, or the garden, I slip out of them and in another set of slippers that are used solely for "outside". This takes like 2 seconds.
And for the water drink when you do yard work, maybe bring a bottle? Might save you even more time than running back and forth to put water in a glass.
Also, I don't know your life, but I doubt that you hang shelves in your kitchen on a daily basis. But I mean, you do you.
You'd be amazed how much work some people do on a daily basis. Also my backyard is currently a swamp, and slippers would not last me a week of working in my garden, even if it were good weather. But you do you.
Because I can't get my husband to take his shoes off right when he comes inside after 13 years together, so I've given up and just started wearing shoes inside myself 🤷🏻♀️
I generally don’t just because i enjoy the freedom of wiggley toes, but I’m not adverse to it either.
Theres no snow or mud where I am and most of the places I walk in are cleaned daily (Work, shops). Honestly its just not a big deal for me here in Australia, shit people walk down the street or in stores with no shoes at all, so who cares eh. Bit of dust gets on the floor at home big deal, ill clean it on a weekend.
Because I had shoes on before arriving home and I don't remember about them until much later.
As I get older I find my heels and arches just hurt randomly walking on hard flooring, and carpets get gross. The solution for me is a pair of sketchers I reserve for indoor use.
Every time I see people with arch issues complaining and saying they need their arch support shoes the orthopedic surgeon inside me wants to claw out.
You need to exercise your arches, not walk on crutches until the problem is so bad you need physical therapy.
Bare the barefoot. They'll improve. Your heel pain is likely related directly to your arch issues as you're putting more weight than necessary on your heels.
Disclaimer: I'm not actually doctor of anything, I've just been running a long time and constantly hear about doctors putting patients with arch issues on orthotics which is like giving someone with a weak leg crutches. You need to exercise and build the muscles, not crutch them.
Rant over
I just forget to take them off
Having said that in my country it's normal to wear house shoes in the house.
Because I have multiple doors in my house which lead outside. I normally take my shoes off when I come inside, but sometimes I come in one door and then want to leave via a different door only to realise my shoes are at the other end of the house.
Flip-flops for the house are great, especially for the kitchen
Apart from on a wet tiled floor
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Well, personally, I have foot problems, so walking barefoot is painful. So I wear flip flops around the house.
Dog pee.
Id like to add dog poo in the form of mud and dirt tracked in from the backyard by said dog during the 6 months it rains nonstop where im at
I live in the PNW and have dogs, so I feel your pain.
These days I just try to get them to step in the puddles for some kind of rinse before they come in the house. Lol
I have bad plantar fasciitis so I wear special old person orthotic shoes. And most of my house is hardwood so generally if I’m on my feet I’ll wear my shoes inside to prevent foot pain.
🤷🏻♀️ It’s not like I don’t wipe my feet off on the doormat rug
You’re the only guy I understand here. The plantar fasciitis can definitely be painful without the shoes/orthotics. But for me, even that can’t negate the discomfort of being constrained in hot sweaty shoes all day
You ever banged you toe on something, and you're also telling me you never thought 'this wouldn't be a problem if I has shoes on'?
Do you ever learn from your mistakes? /s
This problem is solved by slippers™
Years ago I had a glass light cover shatter in the hall between my bed and toilet. Thought I got it all swept up. Two weeks later, a 2am half asleep piss trip ended in 10 minutes of digging a glass shard out of my foot and stopping the bleeding. I now wear something with a sole very nearly at all times.
Better to step in cat puke with, my dear.
Why do you walk in cat puke in your home?
sometimes that's how you find out there's cat puke in your home.
I have cats that live in my home, where else should they puke?
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Leftover habit from never having bare feet touch the ground from my army days.
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Kids leave and drop things all over house (Lego bricks).
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I wear huge clown shoes. No room near the door to leave them.
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Shoes off to flip-flops on. Feet feel protected.
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I'll say that I don't usually wear shoes in the house, but it's also a lost cause since I have two big dogs.
I have two sets of indoor slippers, so don't really wear shoes inside per say... though one of the slippers does close around feet somewhat like a shoe.
Why do people go barefoot in public
Why do people wear shoes in the office
Why dont3 I ask women if they're pregnant
Because arbitrary customs that exist which might have a good reason behind them but largely have become things that are considered polite or rude, both of which are societal concepts which themselves are worthy of questioning
You don't know why you don't ask women if they're pregnant?
New to lemmy?
You don't know why people wear shoes in the office?
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Because they've given up on life.
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Because everyone else wear shoes in the office. That being said. I don't wear shoes in my office. Because no one does. (It's also a small office)
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I don't know why YOU don't. I don't Because it's none of my business and the risk of being wrong heavily outweights the reward of being right.
It's not arbitrary. If you start wearing shoes inside the floor will get dirtier. And now I can't not wear them because I will get dirt all over my socks from the dirt the shoe wearer tracked inside.
Office workers might have to move around and walk a lot. Shoes help with that. It's the exact reason we invented them in the first place.
Just because you don't know, doesnt mean it's arbitrary
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Because in public, the ground is probably more gross than your feet (dogshit, car oil), but in your home, your shoes are probably more gross than your own feet.
Similarly, in public, seeing other people's feet is gross. But not as much at home.
Bro the dirt under your shoes don't give af whether you're being polite about going inside the house with them or not
Why does this keep coming up? Are there really an appreciable number of people who do this?
For me, I’m fine with whatever guests want to do (unless visibly wet or dirty) since they are temporary and short term. But otherwise I’ve never really had to ask, because it’s so common for taking off your shoes to just be the more comfortable. It’s actually one of my bigger dislikes for going back to the office, that now I have to wear shoes all day and it’s so uncomfortable. I can’t wait to get home and take them off. Isn’t this most people?
Given some comments here, yes, yes there are. Although some people here mention dogs, which made me kinda understand. I guess one more point for not having indoor pets.
They say, 30 is the age where you have to decide which one you like more: tying your shoelaces or hamburgers.
I chose the latter.
Now I'm almost 44 and even undoing them feels too hard. 🙃
I have a separate set of onutsuka tigers that are only for in the house. For home gym mostly, but also at my standing desk sometimes it's more comfortable than flat bare feet. And because of these sometimes they just stay on.
I have some slippers but I make them smell like a dead mouse, so I like to leave them alone.
Sometimes the old dog makes a boo boo.
Why not? They aren't getting dirty, i don't step in mud or water or stuff like that.
Because slippers are so much comfier and easier to take off when you want to lay down on the couch/go to bed and don't have to take shoes off to put other shoes on when going outside.
I don't have slippers, and my shoes are pretty comfy. If I want to lay on a bed, I'll take my shoes off, it's not hard. I use the same inside and outside shoes, cos I'm way to fking lazy to swap shoes when going in and out, if I had to then I wouldn't wear shoes inside. I'm not saying you should, so please don't reply with 40 paragraphs about why I shouldn't.
For the comform of bare feet
Feet smell bad and are gross
Wearing shoes traps the sweat in and marinates your foot in it. Shoes are why feet smell bad in the first place.
Not really..
The smell is more due to fungus digesting the protein from dead skin, not just because of shoes. If you keep your feet clean and wear a fresh pair of socks with your shoes, fungus can't really grab hold.
Yes but feet still smell bad when you take your shoes
Because they don't own a broom or know how to operate one...
Or because they have or have had kids.
Why wear shoes outside? Your feet just need to toughen the fuck up. Humans didn't evolve to need shoes in most environments, most of the time.
This message brought to you by the barefoot runner gang.
Are our feet really suitable for pavements and broken glass everywhere, though?
Actually yes, if we didn’t wear shoes all the time. The bottom of your feet will be more hardened from calluses where it meets the ground. Think about it this way, when we are kids we run around shoeless most of the time. For all intents and purposes, shoes have ruined our feet. Either by crushing them together, like women’s pointed shoes and men’s cowboy boots as an example, as well as allowing the soles of our feet to soften. As a kid I used to run up and down gravel roads and driveways barefoot without a care in the world, now the bottom of my feet can’t handle stepping on gravel without shoes.
Why do people ware shoes outside the house?
to scare off the fetishists
Great answer!
