In my experience, they are quite vocal. Anecdotes are weak

Why be so uncivil? Just disagree, make your argument (which you did) and leave it as that.

Come on man, just put on the un-id armor. Come on just try, it'll be cool

Did not, I'm describing things you can do with gis across the spectrum, ESRI or not, preferably once you have a decent python foundation. Edit I and others are saying "do some non GIS projects in python FIRST, then explore these GIS related things." Because jumping to scripting in arc pro alone isn't advised.

Why are you being combative? I'm not hating on them at all. I literally just rattled off common file formats, libraries, and projects to consider. The original comment says they scraped a few things together from tutorials, and I and other comments are discussing how to build a strong foundation, then extend it.

I've got no ill will for OP.

Knowing how to script a bit in arc pro does not really mean you know anything about python, or programming for GIS at even a basic professional level. That's ok, no hate, everyone starts out. Checking out various software, formats and libraries, in addition to getting the python basics down will open a huge world of projects and even work opportunities

Lol I love that someone downvoted us. We are joking about the same exact symptom the top comment is referring to: ridiculous article premises and silly titles.

Agree, I don't think I went against that. I certainly didn't say it's JUST geojson and web map. That was just a list of keywords. I opened by saying these are more things to get excited about.

If it's just esri (they said q too), but if it's just esri, automate the boring stuff + arcpy and you'll be a happy camper.

Cartographic stuff is super simple in any framework. Data processing and network topology are great things to study that aren't web map. Remote sensing is the coolest shit and you can literally get free imagery and use free tools to make surface analysis and identification...not as a super raw beginner, but not long after.

Learning about the common open source file formats, storage strategies, and processing libraries is attainable (and desirable) by a beginner who has automate the boring stuff under their belt

Jumping straight into esri and staying there, without getting some general education, is a good way to end up not knowing much about python, and generally developing weaker workflows.and automations, in my professional experience.

Like I said, learn some python basics and good habits, then consider gis.

So did you click a link to go to a source, or, what?

I like everything about this

That's a spicy meatball

I almost ate the onion on this one

Get the basics locked.in before dipping into GIS.

Edit, because someone misunderstood me.... You'll have an easier time extending your existing GIS work by getting a nice foundation of non GIS python skills.

There's a lot of odd patterns and domain specific requirements in the spatial data world, not even mentioning the nasty beast that esri is.

Provided you listen to my above advice, here are some other keywords that will help excite the home-gis dev: geopandas, (pandas), geojson, geopackage, QGIS, leaflet (not python but easy to connect a leaflet frontend with a python backend), openstreermaps, map box, earthexplorer (USGS free aerial imagery of lots of imagery types)

If it must be esri based, arcpy is a popular library.

Are you stunned, shocked, or blasted?

Normalizing via speech is entrenching this very problem. I'm not saying this thread is gonna tip the scales, I'm discussing that the above commenter replied as if it's the right response. They are condoning and almost evangelizing the topic (evangelizing is way too active a word, I can't think of a better one, but this one is too much).

I think there's distinction between your raising the issue that police have a monopoly on violence, and their commenting that violence is their job. Given the context, it comes off as they are saying "it is correct and GOOD that the police met this group with violence."

I contend it is not appropriate, but accept that is is common (even systemically so)

Freaking Blair witch cat

But do you love snacks as much as him

Yep. The long advancement ramp should be seen as the enjoyable point of the play, not a speed bump. If you aren't built that way, it won't be fun

That's a silly way to word it, that normalizes violent behavior. It's a common tactic / tool they use, but more accurately:

"enforce the law and government decree is literally the job of the police."

Violence, at the most cynical, is a common way they do it.

In this case, (not discussing the whole bussing thing), if an arrest was required, say, for the bus damage, it should have been completed with the absolute minimum violence.

3 is the way.

Have your goals. Feel your feelings. But don't expect to jump to the other side of the ocean. Set small goals and revel in your daily/weekly wins.

For example, I wanted to eat better and save money, when I was young and had no money. It was harder then, but I tallied up all the fast food money I was spending, and realized if I didnt buy fastfood I could afford more and better groceries including more fresh vegetables and meats. And STILL saved some money.

So I watched my grocery bill and stopped eating fast food, ended up with some extra cash each month, and even lost a few pounds.

This is a small thing, but I felt more in control of my life, and it made me happy.

Modern banking apps have search features to make tallying your spending easy

Yes. He would have zero issue with your comment. He would smile. He is not attempting to be logically consistent

It wasn't bluster, it was effort. You're making that determination based on hindsight. If trump hadn't won, which they can't control, then progress would have continued.