Every single large server in this federation has at least one Star Trek community. There is even an entire server dedicated to Star Trek.
Not only that, these communities are some of the most active I've ever seen. There is no other franchise I know of that dominates the federation as much as Star Trek does.
So, what's the correlation with Lemmy and Star Trek? Why not other sci-fi series? Please, are there any connections?? Is this all coincidental?
Eh, more like Trekkies are techies. I would consider myself somewhat of a techie, definitely nerdy, and very much into sci-fi, but I really don't give a shit about Star Trek. I've seen a lot of it, just because I've had a couple girlfriends that really enjoyed it, but otherwise I probably wouldn't have watched any after my childhood.
Now, if HBO were to do a hard R version, I'd probably get into it.
I never really thought about it before, but it seems obvious now. Trekkies and open source tech folks would have a massive overlap, and Lemmy kind of exists perfectly within that intersection of utilitarian principles. So of course we would all find each other here.
The Star Trek community has been going strong for nearly 60 years for a reason - Star Trek rocks.
When it started in the 60s (and continued especially strong with TNG in the 80s), it was unique in depicting a hopeful look at how things could be rather than a reflection of how things are, differing from how most shows do social commentary. It's refreshing.
Star Trek is attractive to people who want to see a world where people work together toward great things in a post-scarcity utopia, with current day conversations of race, nationality, sex, gender, etc. being so far in the rear-view mirror that they're non-issues. Plus cool technology. I think that appeals to the Lemmy crowd.
So others have already talked about how great Star Trek is. I agree with them, but I think that literally everyone has missed the point of your question:
It's its own lemmy instance. It was spawned from the migration away from reddit, and it's stayed alive since. So combine an active former-reddit community with lemmy and a good reason to all rally around, and finally the final ingredient of federation, and the Star Trek related rooms will always be on every server, and they'll always be populated.
Yeah, I think this is a big part of it. The Star Trek sub's total abandonment of Reddit and conversion to a standalone Lemmy instance during the Blackout was a big deal and a big driver of traffic in those days and beyond.
Star Trek is big in the Threadiverse for the same reason that Earth is big in the Federation. They were a massive force in the early days.
Both this and all other answers are good for different reasons. From what I'm reading, the beliefs and politics displayed within Star Trek are beyond progressive for the time it came out, while also shaping sci-fi. This creates a very committed fan base that when Reddit started acting up, they were able to move a large chunk of their user base away to Lemmy, since Lemmy is filled with similar-minded people.
Because Trek fans were the first to organize conventions. They started out small in the late 60s. Now every single weekend, somewhere on this planet, there's a Trek convention being held. The conventions also raise massive money for charity. They are the nerds other nerds want to be, in terms of organization. I'm here for the memes.
You are right that Star Trek conventions were the first time a single show was the focus of a convention, and the Star Trek conventions lead to things like ComicCon.
I haven't thought of this in years but back in the '90s I participated in an email fantasy RPG where we all roleplayed Romulans. One person would write a chapter from their character's POV and email it to the group, then the next person does one, and so on, so the story unfolded in unexpected ways. It was actually pretty fun.
Do you know of a wiki or link to this about trek boards and first email? Search engines now a days are getting on my nerves about not showing what I typed into it.
Wait but which O'Brien? Miles? Or the clone Miles that was meant to infiltrate the peace talk? Or the Miles from 7 hours in the future that just replaced the present day Miles? There's just so many to choose from, it's so hard
If you're trying to say the way ryker throws his leg over a chair is the cause of me becoming a communist programmer then I have to tell you that you are sorely accurate.
Yeah, IDK. As a huge Trekkie, I’ve been nothing but pleased that Trek forced its way into the mainstream without changing its progressive this-is-for-everyone values.
I can talk about Star Wars and basically everyone I know has a lot of context. Most people have watched a good amount of it. Even people who are explicitly not nerds know about it. Same with most comic stuff.
Meanwhile Star Trek is still a lot more niche. People know the bare basics of what it is, but that's about it. With the exception of my SO, I've met a grand total of two people who watch it.
Also if someone knows a lot about Star Wars or Marvel they don't necessarily know a lot about other nerd IPs. Meanwhile the people who knew about Star Trek also knew about shit like Farscape, Dark Matter, and other IP that just gets confused looks from most people.
Same reason Linux is popular on Lemmy. Lemmy is essentially an explicitly leftist community that appeals to people nerdy and techy enough to leave Reddit and join a smaller platform. Linux is a FOSS, ie leftist techy OS. Star Trek is leftist Sci-Fi.
In my experience it is a very very loose collection of ideologies that share the common idea that there is no innate hierarchy between people and that helping others does not necessarily erode your own place in society.
Edit: Oh, it was an ELI5, then a leftist is someone who thinks other people in their sandbox does not make the sandbox worse.
A leftist is someone who, in the French national assembly, sits to the left, as seen from the lectern: Supporters of the Ancien Régime (monarchists) sat to the right, revolutionaries (of every colour) to the left.
As such the core tenets of leftism are Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité, in short, enlightenment values later coalescing into humanist values, as well as the metric system. Which is why the US cannot into leftism.
For me, the defining characteristic of leftism is trying to achieve social equality through redistribution of wealth and power from those who have plenty to those who don't have enough.
Collectivization of industry, ie a rejection of Private Property. FOSS is leftist as it rejects individually owned IP and the profit motive.
Socialism, Anarchism, Communism, etc. are examples of leftist ideologies.
If you want a true ELI5, instead of one dude owning the factory and therefore everything the Workers create in it, imagine the Workers owning the factory and democratically deciding how to allocate profits and whether or not to elect a manager to help facilitate this.
I'm a voluntarist and think the federation model is an interesting stepping stone to better systems that would enable either direct democracy or polycentric law.
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Star Trek (esp 90s Trek and esp TNG) is extremely formative for most Gen Xers and Millennials. It's unapologetically nerdy and has themes of tolerance and empathy, and establishes a utopian vision for the future that (to most people) is unfathomable. When we're not on Lemmy, we're talking about Trek with people in person.
If you think science fiction is laser fights in space, this opinion makes sense. If you like characters and setting, it's probably some of the best sci fi on TV.
DS9 still holds up today. I don't think I will ever reach a point in my life where "In the Pale Moonlight" isn't some of the best television ever made.
because star trek has long been welcoming to gay and trans people for their inclusiveness and the fediverse is home to a lot of nerds and gay or trans (or both) people. 💕
star trek mods successfully moved their communities from reddit back then. afaik the only other community with similar success is the piracy community.
Unfortunately, outside of the meme zone (i.e. [email protected]e) there isn't a whole lot of engagement anymore. Once the blackout was over, the reddit communities opened back up.
Lemmy is socialist by nature, and so is Trek, but also it's Trek, one of the two most iconic Sci-fi franchises available, Reddit was basically the same way but with Star Wars, but for some reason there seemed to be far too many people on the dark side and simping for the empire and Vader.
Ah thank you! I've been trying to remember what subbreddit took their villain rp too seriously. It wasn't all that funny when people just swapped out real slurs and minorities for fictional ones.
Because Babylon 5 ended in 1998 and the reboot isn't even in production yet. Also MGM doesn't have the faintest idea what it's supposed to do with Stargate.
It's not even some nebulous "they", JMS himself has been pitching it since 2021 and latest news is, well, that CW didn't cancel the project amidst ownership and direction change and the writer's strike.
Part of me thinks half of the reason Stargate did so well was because of the culture of the post-9/11 world. Westerners and Americans in particular got to watch SG1 fight people who looked what they thought terrorists looked like. Admittedly they're not Muslims they're more akin to Ancient Egyptians aliens. Insofar as Western culture in the early 2000s the early season villains are Muslim adjacent. I don't think it was intentional, the movie came out long before 9/11. It was just in the right place at the right time. The show got a lot better once the Gua'uld and the Jaffa weren't the villains of the week.
Stargate premiered 1997, it was already well-established in 2000. The Nox are introduced in s01e08, Asgard in s01e10. Season 5 is the first one which could have 9/11 influence, It's mopping up the Jaffa rebellion and Osiris and Anubis are introduced but there's plenty of non-Gua'uld episodes. Oh, and Wormhole X-Treme!.
Our world is already post scarcity too for basic needs like food and housing. We're just terrible at actually getting them to people since most countries are still capitalist, so they prioritize capital/profit over human lives and rely on what's basically slave labour from less developed nations to make the ruling class richer.
And yet the political commentary displayed in the series is blatantly leftist in nature, and was written in the context of modern Capitalism.
Just like showing a dystopian hyper-Capitalist cyberpunk future is a commentary on the dangers of modern day Capitalism, showing a more "enlightened" post-scarcity Communist society as a hopeful future is also commentary on modern day society.
Sci-fi is pretty much just political, as it's all speculative fiction based on different possibilities of modern society abstracted to a future setting.
Watch Star Trek TNG and you'll instantly get it. The original series was getting a bit dated by the 90s, but TNG is still as fresh as you can get, talking about issues we're still dealing with - It's timeless. Not to mention it has, IMO, the best and most synergistic crew of the whole franchise.
Anecdotally I have the impression a lot of North American Lemmy users are technology professionals and enthusiasts in their 40s and 50s and therefore many would also be Trekkies from the 20th century.
In an interview during the 90's, William Shatner told of a story of him being recognized in mid-perfomance by a sword dancer in a small Iranian village. The man stopped dead in his tracks and looked straight at him uttering with utter amazement; "Captain Kirk?!?" That should give us perspective as to how deep and far Star Trek reached people for the last 51 years.
Babylon 5 is our last best hope, or we could look further afield - Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man who even now fight to survive far, far away, amongst the stars.
Compared to that, star trek is a million times more popular lol.
But, like other people have said, it's a huge thing. Star Trek is one of, if not the most successful TV universe. It crossed into movies, comics, books, toys, everything. The "brand" spans most of a human lifetime so far, and has done so with a surprisingly minor degree of fuckery that insults the fan base.
So you end up with generations of fans, across all kinds of demographics.
It's science fiction. And there's not many hives of scum and villainy places online that are more sci-fi friendly than lemmy; even mastodon isn't quite as sci-fi loving.
But you may be missing that star wars has a ton of related C/s as well. There's dedicated sci-fi C/s scattered around. Compare that to genres like fantasy or westerns, and you start to see the trend leaning that way.
But, you're right that it is a disproportionate thing. The only "brand" that seems to be as universal as trek on lemmy is LOTR, and that's a foundation of fantasy as a whole.
Others have brought up other reasons, but one I haven't seen is simply the depth of material to work with. Trek has had multiple multi-season series and tons of movies, which means you can basically find the right image for any meme if you watch enough of it.
I'm in the middle of my fifth or sixth Voyager rewatch now, and I don't even like Voyager that much. It's the perfect sort of thing to watch as I drift off to sleep, and the quality really improves after Year of Hell.
In the fictional universe of Star Trek, the United Federation of Planets is the interstellar government with which, as part of its space force Starfleet, most of the characters and starships of the franchise are affiliated.
To this day the government is still trying to create a lot of the tech from Star Trek. They are actively working on warp technology, replicators for food and clothes etc and Star Trek was the basis for a lot of today’s computers (i.e. no tubes like old tvs and computers before the invention of the desktop computer).
One time the government actually approached the producers and wanted to know how they got the doors to open and close automatically like they do. Genes answer “there’s two men holding onto broom sticks, one on each side, when the actor walked up to the doors they would pull the broomsticks and make a ‘whooshing’ sound as they opened and closed them “
Now we have that tech on 90% of retail shop doors. Star Trek was the basis for a lot of tech we use now.
It's not my thing but I appreciate just how much depth and substance Star Trek has to it and the sci-fi theme is a perfect fit for most people who frequent Lemmy.
It's popular, very memeable, has a long history, and most importantly: there's 2-3 series of it running right now. So it's topical and being engaged with.
This is actually something i also noticed when i switched to lemmy from reddit. In reddit its all star wars and here its all star trek. I lean more in the star trek direction so im happy here
Because that community decided to leave and start a place here when things blew up. Other communities didn't. They're active, so people hang out there. There's a fairly low barrier to entry for new folks to participate (a lot of people have watched some Star Trek).
Really, having an active community say, we're leaving and setting up shop here goes a long way. I wish my niche subreddit had done so as well.
Fediverse: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where no one has gone before.
Fediverse: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise Instances of Lemmy. Its Their continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds threads; to seek out new life memes and new civilizations places to post them; to boldly go shitpost where no one has gone shitposted before.
C'mon you gotta love the original Star Trek series at the very least. I mean it was a milestone and it's still my favorite of all the Treks out there.
The fact that it has so many communities (for Trek in general) shows that it really resonates with people across the board. I can't think of many other shows that have achieved that. Its the mix of science fiction and adventure with very human emotions and problems that make it so appealing, I think.
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