Am i the only one who feels like it's the same handful of users posting and commenting on lemmy?
Am i the only one who feels like it's the same handful of users posting and commenting on lemmy?
At least on the communities i follow. Every so often I come across a thread where i recognize most of the users there even in the big communities with over 30k members and I haven't even been on lemmy that long.
The trick is not to read the usernames. I imagine myself surrounded by millions of mostly sensible people!
Like the others said, the ratio of posters/lurkers on most social media sites is 10/90, and i think that lemmy is on the better, more active side of things. in a 30k community that means that you will see about 300 people commenting regularly, and 30 of them will be very active.
i also like the smaller scope here, fewer comments mean that my opinion will be engaged with more.
I rarely commented on reddit, because one little comment in a swarm of 2500 will not even be noticed. It's different here, and i wrote over 400 comments this year! i maxed out at about 100 on reddit because my comments wouldn't even be noticed most of the time if i didn't filter by new.
It’s called a community. If Reddit doesn’t seem like this anymore, it’s because half those people are actually AI.
Yes, I love how much actual, genuine discussion happens here. The level of bots and trolls and astroturfing is nowhere near Reddit.
There's definitely regulars I recognize, but still plenty more I don't.
Yeah, there are a handful of extremely prolific posters who are awesome and keep the whole thing fresh. Then there are a couple dozen that I see at least a few times a week if not more. After that, I see a mix of familiar and unfamiliar faces.since I scroll All.
But even reddit had a similar pattern on a larger scale proportionate to the userbase. There were like a dozen prolific posters (or bots) whose threads got the most engagement even when they were reposts of someone else'searlier post.
I like to think of it like movies and tv, where a few prolific actors and actresses are everywhere and in things that get a lot of attention, but there are also a ton of people also participating but without as much attention because they are in fewer popular things.
If someone browses hot or new they will absolutely see the same few people the majority of the time since those are the most active people. Browse Active and there are a lot more that arrived a few hours after the post was made.
Part of it is also because you will notice the people you recognize, but scroll past the people that you don't.
Having to check over usernames from the moderation side, I notice a lot more variety than I'd think about otherwise
There's dozens of us. Dozens.
haha! oh wow!
in my case, there's people i tend to always see the same comment-style and so their name sticks.
depending on the sub, that could be good or bad.
I can’t speak to Lemmy specifically but my Reddit years were ages 15-30. I think I got my fill of arguing on the internet then.
I write a lot of comments on Lemmy that I end up deleting before posting because I just don’t want the hassle of arguing with someone about it who is being deliberately obtuse or arguing in bad faith.
That’s not an indictment of Lemmy specifically, but I think my lack of interest in those arguments comes with age and I suspect my story isn’t unique, the demographics will line up for a lot of Lemmy users.
That’s not an indictment of Lemmy specifically
For me this is a major, glaring problem with Lemmy. The obtuse and bad faith arguments are a constant problem here. Some of the things that get upvoted are wildly wrong, openly biased, and would be ridiculed in most other settings.
If not for instances like Lemmy.ml and hexbear it wouldn't be so bad, but even if they disappeared, the Lemmy user base is an echochamber that's out of touch with reality.
How so? Can you list some examples of upvoted things that are wildly wrong?
I swear there is one dude who is like a frequent news reporter, I see his name nearly all of the time around the instances. But yeah there seems to be just a handful of people who represent the minority that just chat away.
Because it is dawg.
Total users are like ballpark 1 million, and most don't post much or at all -- e.g the 1-9-90 rule.
By comparison Reddit and twitter are the most trafficed sites on the internet
‘Had to look up the 1-9-90 rule
Reddit is worse but they use puppet accounts so you can't easily tell.
/TinfoilHat
Are you still double-dipping in reddit?
Smaller community, so the power users (like myself, FlyingSquid, The Picard Maneuver and others) will undoubtedly be more prevalent than the many, many other users that barely post at all.
I literally scrolled through looking for your comment.
Yeah, you are very recognisable, but people like me, who lurk most of the time, comment maybe once a month.
Not very memorable.
I see you everywhere and I enjoy it. Thanks for contributing to all the conversations. O7
Non respect
some of those are also the same kind of power tripping neckbeard discord mods we fled from by leaving reddit. (fragile ego ban incoming in 3...2...1...)
I don't understand what neck beard means. I see it used, but I still can't really figure out what it means. The other thing I don't understand is incel, not that you used that word but it's another one that I see used frequently that I don't understand. Are the two related? Also, I'm old In case you couldn't tell
Honestly, that's one of the cool parts of old internet (forums, chatrooms, etc.) is getting to know people, you get to know the community 😊
does that mean i'm famous?! MUM I'M FAMOUS
The ratio of commenter/poster to lurker is always pretty lopsided. I also never read user names.
Be the shitpost you want to see in the world.
I'm not usually an internet commentor, but I try to chip in on Lemmy sometimes. I think most people just treat it like the rest of social media today, where the smart idea is to just lurk
I guess it makes sense that the majority of the userbase is just lurkers
It's the rules.
Yes. I've been posting to subs around here too. I like it cause everybody will probably see your post and you'll get engagement from real people. We also have common interests on here that things are pretty interesting.
We also have common interests on here that things are pretty interesting.
I disagree. The interests communities get no attention at all. The only things that get on the homepage are political stuff, some technology and a bit dry memes.
I'm hoping that changes after the election, but likely won't slow down till February, and then maybe we won't see as much for 3 years.
This is literally why i don't browse "All". Politics galore
Well it is not hard to love pineapple 🍍😄
Yes. Don’t look at usernames.
wubby7
I almost never comment on anything. I imagine most users are like me.
Yes, I do see the same names popping up all the time.
That's honestly crazy to me. What's the appeal of lurking?
Sometimes what you were going to comment is already there, you updoot and move along.
To learn...
Can confirm, browse Lemmy daily but almost never comment.
We're looking sat you PugJesus! 😎
Just trying to keep things alive until they're self-sustaining! I look forward to the day when I don't, uh, post every day.
Small town vibes where you actually recognize people at the grocery store kinda thing.
This is one of the things I appreciate about the Fediverse. Even if we were to grow large, too, this small-town vibe can be maintained simply by using the instance federation tools. Reddit doesn't really give you that same degree of convenience.
not a bot at least
That's very much possible.
That's why I try to be as nice as I can on here.
There are very few times when I initially joined Lemmy where, I admit, I was a bit shitty towards some users (old Reddit habits). This can get you banned, or blocked, or you can build a reputation pretty quickly. And since we're not a lot, that can limit your interactions quite a bit. So I changed my attitude pretty quick. And frankly it's been much more enjoyable this way since.
Reddit did things to us all. You couldn't like be nice to someone bc you would get your ass handed to you. EVERY comment had to be so defensive, and primarily what worked was snark. Here... is different, most of the time (and when it's not, we can block and move on:-).
Hard agree. Lemmy feels like a town hall. A few important people providing updates on reality and we engage in discussions based on those topics. Honestly. As long as it doesn’t get corporate or super weird I’m okay with that setup. It feels a lot more like a community this way. Whereas Reddit felt like a stadium packed with people. You can shout. And no one knows where it came from.
That's a great analogy. Spot on.
A few important people providing updates on reality
The problem is if those people get burned out for carrying a sub-Lemmy by themselves.
I get snarkier than I should sometimes when I'm really frustrated with someone, but I try to be mindful of it and nip it in the bud when I can.
This is a good way to think about it. I've also been trying my hand at being a bit nicer to tankies. Oops... I mean communists.
They'll come around, eventually. (Tankies I mean)
I’ve also been trying my hand at being a bit nicer to tankies. Oops… I mean communists.
So, I'm finding things reversed, I spent most of my time on reddit going at it with idiot conservatives, just blasting through their talking points and not being polite at all.
Tankies are different because they ... it's not selfishness, it's not just seeing themselves as the ultimate victim of "evil libruls!", they really believe the world would be better under their fairy tale. It's even different from a lot of religious nutjobs I've met, who can't wait for their God to come back and burn everyone who didn't appreciate how awesome they specifically were, like their dad who worked at the CIA doing Kung-Fu.
Fortunately the tankies have weak arguments, the best of which is "China #1 now!!!".
Interesting to hear
There's one user that seems to be everywhere and it's probably the same user everyone is thinking of right now lol.
I'm also surprised I come across other "agents" on here more frequently than I would expect.
Be the change you want to see.
Got it. Creating bot accounts now
I use both reddit and lemmy and for the most part, I'll see similar or the same articles shared/posted on both platforms. I don't mind, it actually makes me feel like one day Lemmy might grow enough to the point where I use reddit less and less.
using multiple platforms I see the same users from time to time but I never really cared about who's posting or commenting
The majority of individuals on platforms like Lemmy—and social media more broadly—engage almost exclusively as passive consumers. Their involvement often begins and ends with the simple act of upvoting or downvoting content. This limited interaction speaks volumes about the nature of digital engagement, where consuming information or entertainment takes precedence over meaningful interaction or contribution. The absence of deeper engagement is not a failing of the platform itself but a reflection of broader societal tendencies.
People, in general, tend toward passivity, a trait that extends beyond online spaces and into areas like civic participation. In the United States, for example, voter turnout remains notoriously low. People express their dissatisfaction with the status quo, they crave change, and they criticize institutions, yet they shy away from taking the minimal steps required to enact that change, often hiding behind a hand-waving comment involving the words "systemic," "structure," and/or "institutions," a transparent way of excusing their unwillingness to actually act. As though they themselves are not parts of those systems, structures, and institutions. The same individuals who will upvote or downvote content online without a second thought are often the ones who abstain from voting in elections, an "upvote/downvote" that directly impact their lives.
What is even more concerning is that this passivity is not merely a result of laziness or apathy, but something ingrained and encouraged by modern society. Our institutions—whether educational, political, or corporate—tend to value compliance over initiative. Decision-making, once seen as a marker of personal agency and responsibility, is increasingly viewed as a burden. People have been conditioned to prefer being told what to do rather than take responsibility for their choices.
If a decision goes wrong, there's an inherent comfort in being able to place blame on someone else. This social conditioning makes being passive, fading into the wallpaper, not only acceptable but desirable for many. And yet, these same people will often feel deeply dissatisfied with their lives. But, rather than do something about it, they continue to be helpless, wishing someone would decide for them to improve their lives and then forcing them to do it.
While it's easy to express frustration with the passive nature of online participants, it is also, sadly, understandable. They are products of a society that rewards inaction more than action, where engagement is often reduced to the simplest and least effortful gestures. These platforms reflect the broader societal trend toward disengagement from real, consequential decision-making, reinforcing and reflecting a vicious cycle of passive impotence while they wait for someone or something to fix things for them.
I disagree about the value of commenting and posting. If I don't have anything to actively contribute, and I know it, I'm doing you a favor by STFU. Entertainment and disengagement have nothing to do with it.
If I'm using this platform as a news aggregator, that's 100% passive and legitimate and respectable.
I comment but rarely. I'm a lurker
Same
I'm just here so I don't get fined.
Kinda yeah. BUT my comment to lurk ratio is still less than I did on Reddit. So even my few contributions are still more than I ever really did on Reddit.
more not less, isn't it?
I suppose. But on Reddit, I wouldn't even bother to comment on a comment. So the sense of community is nice. Feels more like old forums or a familiar but lively discord.
Yeah, that's what you get with smaller communities, you tend to see the same people over and over.
And I kind of like it. We get to know who is worth reading and who isn't, for the frequent posters at least.
I used to be active on one of my country's most popular forums, if ranked by daily visits. Self-help Q&A style. Apart from me, there were pretty much only three users contributing about 90% of the content. One of them being the only mod. It took me years to figure out, from the timing and the writing style of the posts, that this mod also poses nearly all of the questions and gives all of the first answers too, using a new single-use sock puppet each time.
At the start of this year, it devolved into plain attention whoring and it was really sad, so I left.
I post more on Lemmy since I think people will actually read what I wrote. I used to post a lot on Reddit too, but that was MANY years ago.
However one of the big reasons I post is to hopefully get the conversation started. I figure with zero comments someone is less likely to post. With one stupid comment, someone might respond.
I don’t see that as a problem personally
A boon, really.
What helps me is having the perspective that people change from moment to moment, and we don't see enough moments in a row to pick out a pattern generally. Even if I see the same names, it helps to treat them with new eyes everytime. Also makes it easier to catch someone on a bad day but then have a nice conversation the next.
Ye, and I'm mostly fine with it (I just wish this place had more stuff that wasn't necessarily political, like "interests" type of stuff like comicbooks. We have some, and thankfully Linux is a big one, but I just wish there was more!)
I agree…
There are more popular people that hang out and comment often in the main communities, then there are people who pass by. I know on Reddit I've seen certain people pop up frequently in certain communities. It's a smaller platform so you see the popular ones more often but it's not that unusual.
I notice a lot of the same people in most of the popular posts. I guess it's because the quantity of people that usually comment vs voting or just reading post is pretty low, so you'll start to recognize them everywhere
It makes me wonder if people recognize me from other posts I comment on!
After the reddit exodus I started creating memes for the first time and posting them on Lemmy. I've learned that it's harder to be funny than I thought. Also a lot of time/effort and I have actually important things in my life that I focus on. Reposting was also kinda fun but what's the point really
Real talk ☝️
Yeah, it can be time consuming for sure
Does anyone recognize me?! I need validation for my useless contributions. Valor and accolades!
It's a village vibe, grab onto the grapevine
Nope, it is.
In a way it's kinda cool though. Feels more like a community.
You've been very busy talking to several of my puppet accounts.
Lemmy is still far from being another reddit. So it is definitely normal to see the same active users. For example, I see blaze alot.
I see you a lot too!
I think everybody sees blaze a lot lol
Be the change you want to see. Post and comment. Start a sub.
That's more difficult than it would seem. Especially since the niche stuff i would be interested in fostering is... well... niche. And lemmy isn't that large. YET!
What interest is it?
Have a look at [email protected] for list of existing active communities
[email protected] for people who make communities grow
I like it. It feels more genuine
Everyone on lemmy is a bot except you.
I'm a bot
Hello! :D
I disagree, you just notice them more
I recognize most of the users there even in the big communities with over 30k members
Communities with 30k members could really do with pruning the completely inactive ones. It's not like there's any commercial reasons to pretend that places are busier than they actually are.
I disagree. There is nothing to be gained by removing people from a group. You can't predict when they might suddenly become active and by removing them you're abrogating their ability to participate.
It's a trade-off, I guess. Admittedly, there's not much benefit the user (though they could be warned via email if their account is going to be de-activated). There is however a benefit to the community, in that it can provide more reliable data to see if it's trending in popularity (a 100 extra users isn't significant if it thinks it has 30k users, but it moves the needle if that number is at a more realistic level).
thoughtful. my issue here is while a community is nascent, isnt building maintaining an honest reflection of the community important?
I have joined a few tiny locally communities based on one post/comment. I may never return and the community traffic is irregular.
in a situation like that I can see a mod pruning me away for zero comments in a year. however that is a form of censorship. so its back to the default of mods run their communities as they wish and, if you disagree find/create another community or instance.
thanks for the thoughful comment.
I've stopped referring to community sizes - especially when there hasn't been a post for a year. Instead, monthly active users is where it's at:-).
absolutely. careful pruning and caretaking is how you nurture good communities. excellent comment.
I have no idea what you're talking about, says the chump who has a series of precisely 103 formulaic knife reviews posted here.
Want to know about a really weird knife? Go check out what a tecpatl is.
tecpatl
Those Aztec weapons are awesome. We need more movies taking place in pre-Columbian times.
Roll-call for the lurkers! (If u want, no pressure)
guess I'm not famous here :(
Commenting not so much, but posting is almost exclusively done by a regular few. Reddit was already like that, but Lemmy is infinitely smaller so it becomes obviously apparent.
I find it kind of creepy. And, ultimately, because of the legacy of things like power(mad) mods, disappointing. Excessive participation leads to possessiveness and all that
On the other hand, someone has to get the ball rolling so that other people join, it's like being the first one on the dancefloor.
Power tripping is indeed bad, and should be reported on [email protected]
Well I mean, be the change you want to see then, post more. Other than that, you really won't find any online communities without the occasional power hungry mods, that's just the sad reality that power corrupts.
A place has to be seeded for a forest to grow...
Somebody has to do the job since normal person only reads, maybe upvote.
Agreed; and Lemmy communites require not only seeding, but tending by a dedicated poster. There are plenty of dead places where someone created the community, maybe made a post or two, then never posted again.
With such a user pool you'd think I'd make someone laugh
Lol
thanks. don't I know you ?
The reason for that is Lemmy Social Score, aka karma. Most of the people on the internet are looking for a validation from online randos and this prevents them from posting unpopular points of view. Hide score from the users and you will see way more posts and comments.
Personally I think it's because Lemmy users tend to lean towards an older/more mature audience; and that crowd tends to comment less often in general.
I'm young and sometimes I refrain from commenting because either A) I don't have any experience on the subject or B) There's too many adults and the discussions are book chapters long.
but then there's no sorting to it all and it functions on bumps like 4chan. not necessarily a better system.
the real reason is that 90% of users on any social media site only lurk. the users that post tend to post a lot. these are just natural things that work out that way due to human nature. confidence and extroversion are some of the last things to make it to niche social media.
You can still do the voting and the sorting without actually showing it publicly. This would make discussions a lot more genuine
I pop in every month or so. I'll see ya around!
See ya next month!
There are prolific posters and some bots that post nearly half of the content that gets popular on a particular day. Commentors I think there's a healthy mix of regulars and users I don't recognize.
Am I lemmy famous yet?
😞
I'd say there is a handful of most active users, and plenty of those who chime in to say something once in a while.
Adding in my chime.
Don't saw much in English, but in French yes it looks like we are 3 or 4 users
Ouais...Camus est omniprésent haha
No but I don’t think that’s a bad thing.
No there's like four of us
Five!
I don't know you!
Most people are probably pretty passive, so yeah, I think there's a subset of posters who are highly visible. But even over at Hacker News, where there's a much larger audience commenting, I recognize specific names because something they said in the past got my attention and I start piecing together their personality a bit at a time.
Am I the only one who absolutely despises people asking "Am I the only one who..." about anything? God it's always something mundane that any idiot could dream up too. There are 8 billion people currently on the planet and who knows how many before us. No, whatever it is, no matter what, you are not the only one who anything. Ever.
I'm not sure it's literal, more of a "I feel this way, and I don't want to assume others do, yet I have to ask has anyone else...?"
womp womp
I comment a lot more often than I post. Tho I don't know if people recognize me, since I'm more active on the ich_iel side of Lemmy.
I try and post, but I feel like I'm always slow to the uptake and people already say the things I have to say. But I do make sure I vote as much as I can.
Same, I typically only comment if I have something new to add to the conversation. That being said, I probably comment more on lemmy then I used to on reddit simply because with a this smaller community there is more of a chance that what I want to share has not already been said.
everyone reading this should introduce lemmy to at least 1 cool person in their life. thats what it needs.
I tried multiple times. They give me dirty looks and grief about all the political extremist content here. We who know how to block it tend to forget, but for a newcomer it's definitely off-putting. And yes X is that way these days too, but people already know it and don't visit it for the first time, so it gets grandfathered in.
We have some work to do before we will go mainstream.
Real talk
Reddit was much larger, but it was the same and noticeable when you were active enough.
My rule of thumb was, if 100 people see a post, 10% vote on it, 1% comment on it.
There's also the fact that most active users that also comment regularly, don't browse the hot page but catch the posts earlier. So there will always be names that show up more often than others, that have already said what's going to be said.
On Lemmy there's a lot of instances that are kind of radical and have a vast interest in spreading their radical ideology in other instances, so they'll show up as well on a regular depending on the topic.
I gotta admit that I didn't start noticing regular users yet, only the trolls that I tag.
I'm everywhere!
Yep, maybe it would benefit from more advertisement but I decided to not recommend it until I experience it for some time. It took me a week or two to realize that I don't like moderation at lemmy-world for example, I would definitely recommend choosing other instances, and then, it takes time to figure out which ones are worth recommending. Some are extremist far-left/far-right, some are at risk of shutting down if admin gets bored and decides to stop paying for hosting from his personal money.
Do you identify as being part of this class?
I comment quite a lot and post relatively often, so i do think i am one of the handful of users I'm referring to. Whether my contributions make any difference is what i don't know
Ironically, I don't see any of the regular users I see in every community on this thread.
I've seen you before
I dont notice it a whole lot mainly cos i dont really care who im talking to tbh. I do wonder if my username stands out tho?
It does, if only because of the font.
For me, the difference to reddit is less the participation/diversity in individual discussions. Rather, that lively debates only happen in some prominent subs. That is the one thing I miss here when comparing lemmy to reddit. On reddit, you can look for some niche hobby or some random computer game and chances are that you'll find an active community.
Yep, that's the one thing i miss about Reddit that isn't here on lemmy. Oh r/sudoku how much i miss thee
Maybe [email protected] ?
I do not have the time to post / comment usually.
There's a certain group of users I tend to come across here regularly. I post a lot myself too but I also have a habit of making new account about once a year so that not all my messages are from one user. I doubt many would remember me.
Interesting, I actually do the opposite. I still have the same username as on Reddit to keep my person whole but I'm not sure why it matters. I'm even careful to not give too much info because of my choice.
I had a stalker ex-girlfriend who made me paranoid. Ever since, I’ve assumed I’m compromised after about a year, and that’s when I create a new account to start from scratch and lose the tail. I could probably make a significant amount of money by selling all those abandoned accounts with tons of karma and a legitimate comment history.
Lol I don’t usually look at usernames, and when I do it’s almost always to block someone
Lemmy may be small, but it's cozy!
The fediverse makes communities feel even smaller since even widely connected nodes have instances they aren't networked with, so even a massive userbase can feel like a small neighborhood, because as an individual user, that's what you're going to see with your account pegged to any given instance.
Hey, GrammarPolice! Nice to see you again today! Take care, see you later!
In the community I post in and read the most, I certainly recognize almost every poster. But in all communities, I recognize the most prolific of posters, but few others.
no way
Without a doubt
No I haven't seen it
Do you also happen to have MPD?
Present.
I don't post nearly as much as I would like, because I post some stream related stuff in my own community on lemmy and don't know want to come off as someone who is trying to advertise all the time. I have been reported for that posting to my own community, which... ya know. I get it, nobody cares about yet another streamer dude, but it is a bit intimidating almost.
If it's any consolation, i checked out your stuff, and while i don't really play TTRPG's i know a couple of people who do, so I'll be sure to recommend your stuff to them.
Yep. Lemmy isn't that big and it is generally the case that an online space is like an iceberg, with only some of the users seen a lot.
That's how social media like this works. It was the same on Reddit but the user base was larger so it would be a little more difficult to notice. A very small percentage of users actually post and since we're already a pretty small community you'll notice the same people more easily.
there are dozens of us
Like friends!
I don't pay much attention to user names so I haven't noticed
I have no idea why you are talking about
Yes. I think that's notmal, no? Some people have more time than others, and care more intensely about some topics.
Others are bots and paid shills too, just trying to earn a living.
Nah
Lemmy.world is defederated from the major Marxist instances, so you might want to join a different instance for a fresh look. Lemmy in general is small enough to be dominated easily, what helps this is finding a good instance and treating said instance like a community with different tags, rather than treating communities like subreddits.
I have an account on sh.itjust.works that i rarely use. Then again, do i want to see posts from Marxists, especially the ones defederated from .world?
