I'd prefer the cryptkeeper surgeon who is at least trying, as opposed to the orange ghoul who is there to harvest your organs for some spare change.
The problem lies with the hospital which allowed those to be the only options to begin with.
I for one would prefer to have my appendix removed by a competent surgeon just over 35 y.o., but until hospital staff management gets their shit together, there isn't a whole lot one can do.
this all the way. I have very vocally stated there needs to be an age ceiling on positions, there is age floors, there is zero reasons not to have an age ceiling.
Many of these folks are still going to hold their nose and vote for Biden. A lot of these takes are valid criticisms without necessarily meaning they aren't voting for him. Hating every candidate and voting for one anyway is a long standing tradition here in Canada.
I'm voting Biden, but I still hate both him and Trump, and I hate that he's refusing to drop out even though every D voter in the country is begging him to drop out.
The only reason I'm voting for him is because I want to stave off fascism for another 4 years.
Dr. Trump: "To be completely honest with you, I'm really lucky to have this operation. The board was about to submit judgement with serious repercussions to my personal life, but I managed to get in here just in time to dodge all responsibility. Anyways, I don't actually believe in medicine so I'm gonna let my Office of Management and Budget handle the situation from here."
Russ Vought: "First of all, every nurse is fired. The Anesthesiologist, too."
That's not the point at hand though. You are just making yourself feel better about the shitty candidate that can probably lose anyways because you will have felt safe in your heart that yours was less terrible.
Why can't we just express our disgust with the situation we're in without being called a psyop? I'm going to vote for Biden. I'm still pissed that this is where we're at. People were saying he was too old in the primaries before the last election and the Dems still shoved him down our throats and they're going to do it again. It's fucking bullshit. At the very least we need a candidate that's young enough that they're going to have to live with the consequences of their decsisions
It doesn't matter if you literally preface every comment you make with "I AM VOTING BLUE NO MATTER WHO" with these people, every criticism is a psyop to get people to not vote.
You'd think having a candidate that polls like shit would be what makes people not vote for him. But no, it's actually the fault of the people pointing out he is a bad candidate and that perhaps we should run someone who doesn't repeatedly shout that "we beat Medicare" in the middle of a fucking debate.
The Democratic establishment fucking loves Trump, the specter of him is a permanent fundraiser and no matter who they trot out or how weak a candidate they are they don't have to change anything, because the alternative is literally fascism.
Or maybe we are just panicking at the person we can literally tell is unliked by other voters when even the people who will begrudgingly hold our nose at the vote are starting to get disgusted by the smell.
Seriously how hard is it to to not pretend people aren't struggling swallowing it down and the people ringing alarm bells are just that and not some special person trying to influence others but just don't want to hit the iceberg because it seemed like it would cost less fuel to just try ramming it and hoping we get lucky.
Fuck me. This is gonna be one of those parts of textbooks where it says infighting led to the party not moving fast enough to face the threat and whichever side makes it out the other side scapegoats the other as being the reason it got so bad.
Conservatism is the minority in America, and rarely wins through above average voter turnout, which is why they do everything in their power to gerrymander and disenfranchise voters. That doesn't change the following facts:
The "resign" efforts are a campaign spearheaded by the fascist propaganda machine (because they have no platform beyond fascist dictatorship).
Anyone and anything, from a dementia ward patient to a wet sack of shit, is more qualified and deserving than every 21st C Republican.
Biden is in noticeable cognitive decline, his debate performance was ridiculous, he probably will not live another 4 years, and isn't there because he's the best choice.
But also the snowflakes that avoid tarnishing their pure souls by avoiding difficult choices altogether. They don't care if america falls to facism, as long as they can brag about being morally better than you.
Depends... is your other option not a doctor at all, and he hates you, and has openly stated that he hopes you die in the procedure? Those are you current two choices, America. Go with the sleepy one.
It also completely ignores the fact that the sleepy doctor has had a nearly perfect record at the operation. It's only the other guy that poses any threat.
The guy that helped set up for profit prisons, and made it so youth would be fucked over by non forgiveable loans, and helped setup tax evasion for massive corporations, and actually helped create the framework for dismantling roe v wade saying it went to far, and supported the Iraq war, and supports imperialism, and now can barely talk or respond coherently....
Has "a nearly perfect record" ???
It's not "either Biden or Trump", just have the Democrats present Kamala or Buttigieg or whoever. Polls already point as alternatives to Biden as more likely to beat Trump, and chances are that Biden keeps screwing it up during the following months.
Hey, of the DNC pulls the trigger and runs Kamala or Bootygreg or some other younger Dem....well, I am voting AGAINST P2025, so I don't care....but I am not voting third party and spoiling the vote because "old man old"...his crew is competent and doing good things. Shitz have him take Kami or Bootyjudge as VP and just bow out after the race...again don't care.
The time to talk about alternative leadership was two years ago.
This argument clearly only helps the MAGA movement right now. Which means you are either a total fucking idiot, or a fascist pretending to be a Democrat.
(I guess you are a fucking idiot either way).
Right? If the other doctor brought in a bunch of fishermen and a stockbroker, and a radio host, and a mime to help with the surgery and said "I saw this on TV once and I am an expert" then started up a chainsaw....I'd worry a little and take the other guy.
Yeah he really would, could you imagine. "Ok I'm just going to inject the painkiller... Oh I mean bleach, ah no matter it'll still clean out any COVID you have"
Like, vote Biden, but also encourage the Democrats to put up somebody who has more going for them than "I'm not Trump". And if they actually do, vote for the new Democrat candidate instead. And while we're fantasizing, everybody should get free ice cream.
So let’s go with the convicted felon doctor who only saves the patients who donate millions of dollars to him. The hospital fired him but he refused to leave his office.
Edit: also he’s 78 and talks about Hannibal Lecter a lot.
But there is only two people in the country rich enough to pretend to be doctors and the whole country is like: this is normal, and you like the racist one or whatever the other one has to offer.
Sure... but if we're talking about the presidency, it's more like we're choosing a Dean of Medicine, rather than the surgeon who's going to be doing the operation.
Don't get me wrong, I would prefer not to have to deal with an 81 year old Dean who had some good days and some really bad ones. But, ultimately, the Dean of Medicine's most important job is hiring good doctors and then delegating to them. It's a rare occasion when you know ahead of time who the Dean's team will be... but in this case we've seen both options as Dean, and we know that only one of the two is planning to hire Dr. Nick Riviera and Zoidberg.
Gotta love all these anti-Biden straw man posts where we overlook the reality of a thing and substitute in some random bullshit that makes our point for us.
It’s so fun to suspend reality in order to manufacture outrage for others.
Yep. Predictable as a cicada that magically appears every four years to tell everyone why they shouldn’t vote for a democrat and then vanishes into obscurity.
I feel better about him than the guy who wants to fly the plane into a skyscraper and who gets to pick a support staff that might help him do that. The airline has terrible staffing policies, but I don't really get to change them in the 30 minutes before the plane takes off.
Let’s compare that to “Dr. Trump” who would tell you people say he’s the best doctor, the best surgeon, the other doctor is a stupid poopy head who can’t golf, then no-show for your lifesaving operation and say only suckers and losers get cancer. But he’d still take your money.
Your response is “don’t talk about the other guy?” You can get rid of him if you vote.
Edit: Ah, you’re one of those Defeatist Democrats. Are you astroturf or for real? Your political comment history amounts to Trump sucks, but Biden and the democrats suck more because that’s the only choice we have. Did I mention that Biden and the democrats suck? Because they do.
Was it a facist play when the DNC propped up Biden and forced in Kamala even though the base was behind Bernie and Kamala was so bad the she was forced to drop out early in the primaries? How come no one talks about that being facist?
If the dead guy is going to lose and you can pick a live candidate thst supports your platform that will win, will you still run the dead guy and lose?
I'm still willing to hear a viable candidate and how that would work less than half a year before an election. In order for us to have another nominee we have to do something to get someone else to put their name on a ticket. That actions might create a bit of a loophole where any party could run a lame duck candidate in the primary, won, and go on to basically pull that candidate for "cognitive decline".
What I believe will happen, based on our laws and our history, is w.ell have another Al Gore moment where the vote gets split and we get a Republican as a result. And since right now the Republican is Donald "I touch 13 year Olds" Trump, I'm gonna ask you why a sane person would choose to let Trump become president.
i wonder if you'll ever see the similarities between trump's camp and biden's. yaknow how he has folks who love him no matter what he does and says, right?
its ok to not like biden or be unhappy if he says shit you dont like. its also a good thing for democracy. If you were only exposed to the pro biden propaganda every day you wouldn't even know he did or said these things. If everyone thought exactly as you do there would be no nuance.
Ozma's hard-on for biden memes doesn't mean theyre a psyop, thats the dumbest fucking idea ive ever heard someone say with a serious face on lemmy. like embarrassingly stupid.
And embarrasingly useless. I've seein ozma around and no matter how many times you say he's a propagandist he will not stop. You and your ilk will never stop whinging about people who say things that attack your fragile world-view.
Not that you and your friviolous friends i see crowding ozmas posts will ever engage in self-reflection.
BREAKING NEWS!
Fans defend their own teams and bash opposing teams!
....and I guess that fact somehow lines up with objective realities of a political situation and means both sides policies are the same...because reasons‽
These non-voter apologists are just Trumpers in donkey clothing.
Notice they always have to neg him in a vacuum, because once he is juxtaposed to Trump, he looks like the best parts of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams put together.
They will say or do anything to suppress the vote.
Great, Biden's not perfect, he is also a million fucking percent better than the alternative.
How many actual people are you seeing saying they won't vote? Cause 1/100 isn't really that high when everyone keeps saying they are voting blue but you ignore that bit to simply say the people disagreeing with you are the true problem and not all the people not on here voting for Trump.
You have the face of an ally near you that you can treat like that of the enemy since you can't touch them.
Oh look, more blue MAGA disinformation claiming anybody who isnt 150% onboard with biden is actually a trump supporter or Russian plant telling people not to vote (even when they say they're voting, because rejecting the reality in front of you is important for fascism )
I don't think it's that, i think it's the part of about acting like biden being a bad choice is fairly comparing him to a alternative. It's like saying Biden is a car that might break down so don't buy it....but the car that's already broken down, had knives for seats and only plays white supremacy youtube stations on loop on the radio. I mean we can admit a lot of flaws on the democrat side before we have to actually start comparing it to the republican options.
The Democrats are digging their own electoral grave. It's okay to preach about voting Biden on Lemmy, but it won't count for anything when masses of real world voters decline to vote for him on account of the constant self-harming of the dems.
Hilary sucked. she just expected to win, like it was her turn. fuck that, bring something to the table instead of just a name. trump won because it was a show for him and idiots ate it up. Hilary played her "better than thou" card and got wrecked.
Too late to change the system now if you play the voting game. Elect Biden and the rest of the Democrats who will NOT turn the USA into a fascist state in the next four years, THEN start enacting real change to put a genuine Left candidate in that will actually push this country forward when they're elected in four years.
If you want to play the voting game, that's how you play. The only other alternative is revolution and enable the "alter or abolish" option right the fuck now.
Make your choice of those two things. The "lol, I won't vote" or "gonna vote Trump anyway" "option" is just alt-right Trumpery disguised as being concerned about a second Biden presidency for any reason.
You are the kind of Northern racists that MLK Jr dealt with that would say "time will fix this" and that those looking for equality needed to just quiet down and not be a bother.
Now, is always better than later. Change must happen even if you feel it inconveniences you and that order is more important than justice. You have no idea what the future holds but we have now.
Some of us are trying to seize a moment to actually make this country worth living in. And it doesn't involve voting for Trump like your brand of idiots think is the only option. If you are so comfortable that it doesn't matter to you then get out of the way.
So much “but trump worst!!” in this thread, oof. Vote for the Biden administration if that’s your only choice, fine. But stop pretending that Biden himself is voteworthy - he’s not, and is hardly capable of functioning normally for 6 hours out of the day at this point. Anyone paying attention for the past year who is engaging in honest good faith, should be able to attest to that.
It would be much better for Biden to step down while there’s still time, if you’re really so terrified of Trump and want to ensure a Republican defeat come November. Those who are pushing for Biden himself to stay in are the real threat to democracy.
Come on Dems, how many times do you have to be taught the lesson of Feinstein and RBG?! For that matter, why are you so insistent on politicians literally working into the grave? It’s a grotesque level of elder abuse, what’s being done to Biden right now. You all should be ashamed.
I don't get to see Biden for 6hrs out of the day like you seem to...I don't care who runs. I'll vote against P2025...run who you want, the DNC are knobs, but they make the call that our stupid FPTP system allows.
Yes, as I said vote for the admin if you must, which seems to be the choice forced upon us.
As for Biden, one of the excuses his own team trodded out for his demonstrably ailing performance is that he is only “on” between the hours of 10-4 each day. That is unacceptable for POTUS.
Great, so make your argument heard two years ago and not a few months before the election.
Otherwise, your arguments/debate is just supporting the no vote agenda that is being astro turfed by the right.
Which means you are probably a subversive.
We've been saying this shit since 2020. Those complaints just haven't really been acknowledged by democrats until recently when they started running out of ways to plausibly deny it. They quelled it in 2020 by implying he would be only a 1 term president and, using the same existential threats as they're relying on now, they barely eeked out a win that mostly came down to historic voter turn out.
Now, 4 years later, him being 800 years old is just the cherry on top. After a strategy that seems to have been just keeping him out of the spotlight, he and his PR team have been completely unable to effectively communicate what his administration has actually accomplished, and lets not forget about Palestine; it hasn't even been a year since all hell broke loose on that issue and Biden's handling of it has been wishy-washy at best, but whatever it doesn't matter because the other guy is worse and uh-oh, we didn't have a real primary to decide if there's someone better out there. Too bad! Don't care, didn't ask.
Enough with this astroturfing shit, this is all plain to see for anyone paying attention. Biden staying in the race is actively hurting the chances of a democrat win, AND democrats down-ballot, and it's nobody's fault but the people that insist on him running against all possible voter indications that they won't vote for him, just as it was with Hilary in 2016. They expected everything to fix itself and everyone to fall in line just like in 2020 because Trump is worse and now they're shitting themselves because after their loss in 2016 and not nearly as much energy now as in 2020, they (or their donors) are starting to realize that voters might not be bluffing.
I say keep shitting on Biden, because it's the only thing that seems to be getting democrats to slowly realize that unless they offer someone to voters that can win on their own merits against a competent opponent, they could actually lose to Trump. Again. Fucking embarrassing.
We've been making this argument for the last 3+ years, my dude.
No one who is saying all of this now was silent the last few years. I've personally been donating to, campaigning for, and bolstering the messaging of non-Mainstream-Dem candidates since I became disillusioned with Obama in my mid 20s. It's not our fault y'all have been fucking ignoring us.
Yeah, about that…as others pointed out, this sentiment isn’t new, it’s just finally breaking through to establishment dems and those in the corporate media because it’s become impossible to deny any longer.
Personally, I’ve maintained that Biden isn’t well qualified since he got picked as Obama’s VP to appeal to closeted racists. I certainly campaigned hard against him in 2020 when he crawled out of his cave to steal the nomination from Bernie for the 2nd election in a row, for many reasons which happened to include risks from his extremely advanced age and ailing mental faculties. And now here we are, undeniable for all to see, when it actually matters and we need a strong candidate to defeat a fascist uprising in the US we have Biden, one of the only Dem contenders capable of losing to Trump.
Here is something for you to consider - a candidate, especially an incumbent, should be able to earn votes by exhibiting a strong and successful record of leadership accomplishments and capabilities. They don’t deserve votes by virtue of party membership - they have to earn it. Perhaps those who choose not to vote simply haven’t been convinced Biden deserves it. You don’t get to blame and shame voters in this situation. The only one deserving of blame here is Biden himself, for putting his ego above the best interests of the nation.
How did you take Biden saying he'd only step aside if the Lord Almighty came down, and that when confronted with being behind in multiple polls by 7 points that he's fine if he loses as long as he tried his best?
It's a dumb take because it doesn't make any sense. I mean you're talking about a position where the person can (and has multiple times) literally die on the job and someone will just step in and pick up where they left off. This example makes it seem like if the president dies or even just loses the presidential race then so does every person in the country or something lol.
I get the spirit of what they're trying to say and even lrgely agree with it but it's just a super bad analogy.
Your other option is a equally old man, hopped up on Sudafed, who lost his hospital privileges just 4 years ago because his mortality rate was insanely high, and no one would give him malpractice insurance, he had his medical license pulled in at least two states, and it's suspected he sold illegally harvested organs to a group of rich people who wanted to eat them. He's been legally found responsible for rape he's committed in civil court, and he was found guilty in criminal court of dozens of felonies related to him stealing hospital records when he lost his license and privileges and may or may not have sold them to the last people you'd ever want to have access to them. He's wearing a lobster bib and licks his lips as he says ''only I have the skill to save you, I don't even want to, but I will... '' He also forwards that everything is falling to ruin, and nothing is good now, and people are dying from surgeries left and right, and the people who died on his surgeries were fake deaths orcastrated by invisible foes only he can see or stop, so it was never his fault all those people died on his watch.
Still better than Trump, anything is better than Trump.
Is that ok? No. Is this a "you you want one bullet in the head or two bullets?" Yeah, pretty much though the the two bullets will first shoot you in the balls for fun. Chose one bullet, please
I think we need to be honest about the actual context and meaning. We've seen what happens when presidents lose the election and refuse to concede. It happened with Bush Jr, and it happened with Trump. When Joe tells us that he wouldn't do what they did, we shouldn't be upset at his honesty. We should be happy that he's not evil.
This was in response to it being pointed out that he has an incredibly low approval rating and other members of the party have asked him to step down. And how would he handle all of the countries worst fears coming in January.
This wasn't some question about concession policy. This is him refusing to listen but also not giving a shit as long as he feels like he deserves the power more than anyone else.
Well if the options were an aging doctor or a raving fucking lunatic who was about to gut me with a steak knife call me crazy but I’d take the the fucking doctor every motherfucking time
Sure, a good, functioning hospital is well-staffed and cares most about the health of its patients. Were the USA a hospital, it would NOT fit that description
First of all, what in the blazes is your doctor doing in surgery?
But let's assume he's also a surgeon.... That's honestly probably the healthiest point of view for a surgeon. Surgeons tend to lose people and it can be devastating if they take it personally. An 81 year old surgeon might have come to terms with it, so as long as he still does his absolute best, why does his relationship to the worst part of his job matter?
I'm so tired of people trying to get famous by dunking on Biden.
Is he old? Yes. Out of touch? Yes. Does he misspeak? Frequently. Is he publicly supporting Israel while Netanyahu engages in human rights atrocities and crimes against humanity? Also yes. Is Biden a centrist oligarch who represents a status quo continuation of the devout capitalist policies that are rapidly destroying the world? Sure.
But he's still better than Trump. And he's the best chance we have at defeating Trump. America can survive a second Biden presidency. We will have a lot of work to do, but it will be worth doing. The USA will not survive another Trump presidency. It will be the end of the experiment, and the beginning of a whole new nightmare.
So Biden must win.
To that end, I have a modest proposal for the armchair pundits on Xitter, all the comics and authors and panelists hoping to make it to the next cable news roundtable as a contributor. When Biden does the next stupid thing, makes the next gaffe, fucks up again (Jesus fuck, did he say he's a minority woman?), whatever, whenever you come up with that perfect burn, the clever observation that is going to go viral and get eyes on your name, feel free to share it. Biden is not King, regardless of what the SCOTUS* would have us believe, so he is not immune to criticism. But when you post it, include the addendum "But I'm still voting for him, because Trump would be worse." Make it part of your signature, or shorten it to BISVFH to conserve characters.
Doing this will help all the rest of us reading your comments, so we don't feel the need to explain to you why you should still vote for Biden. It will also help us more quickly identify the foreign agents and online trolls who exist to stir up discord and assist Trump.
Biden sucks. He really does. But I'm still voting for him, because Trump would be worse.
Extremely sad. But that's still the standard, which is why I'm still voting for Biden. Maybe after the election, and Trump and his cronies are actually behind bars, we can worry about 2026 and electing some actual progressive leaders. But the puppet masters behind Trump, the Project 2025 dipshits, they're not going to go away quietly. Fascists never do.
I don't believe that a plurality of voters would vote for anyone opposite Trump. I'm not narcissistic enough to think everyone thinks like me. I recognize that most voters don't follow politics, don't engage with the news, and don't really care much about learning who the candidates are.
The most important factor for all elections everywhere is name recognition. People want to feel like they know what they're doing, even if they have made zero effort to engage in the process.
It is far too late for anyone other than Biden to introduce themselves to America.
Trump doesn't need to convince people to vote for him. His acolytes will show up to vote. Trump just needs to convince everyone who won't vote for him that it's pointless to go to the polls. One neat little gift the DNC could give to Trump would be to say to all Democrats that their primaries don't matter and there's no reason to vote. Annointing a new candidate now, after people have cast their votes, would be a giant fuck you to every voter who has been screaming for better candidates over the last 6 years. Nothing will kill enthusiasm for voting quicker than passing the buck to someone new.
And let's say they do pick someone else. They haven't been vetted or tested. They haven't campaigned in any states. They haven't built the infrastructure or donor network or legal team. What if the new candidate has a scandal? Does the party hand the baton to yet another candidate? Should we leave the ballots blank? Do like a MLB trade, where we all vote for "A candidate to be named at a later date."
Like it or not, we are stuck with Biden for this one. February 1st, we can all start talking about if he should step down, who should be Harris' VP, whether the Dems have someone that can win in 2028, etc.
I'm curious, though, who is your candidate? You get to hand pick the name on the ballot across from Trump, who is it? Whitmer or Newsom? Buttigieg or Shapiro? If they are so great, why aren't you calling to replace Harris on the ticket? I mean, that's the stronger play, right? If you wanted Harris, you could just argue that a vote for Biden is a vote for Harris, because he's really old and can resign as soon as he is sworn in. That's the best of both strategies.
But it's not Harris. So why not replace her on the ballot with your dream candidate? It solves the primary problem, since people were casting votes for Biden, and he's still on the ballot. Plus, then the new person can introduce themselves to America, and Harris can retire to write her book.
And he's the best chance we have at defeating Trump
Have you seen the polls lately? You're riding a dead horse.
Biden is polling 10-15% below of where he was 4 years ago, back when he barely defeated Trump.
How do you propose Biden will make up that ground? Do you think he has a strategy to pull off the biggest electoral comeback in our lifetime?
You can make a futile attempt at policing anti-Biden comments, but it's not going to stem the bleeding. Normal Americans can see the dementia written all over Biden's confused face. They can hear it everytime he struggles through another incomplete, mumbled sentence.
I hate Kamala too, but I hope the DNC pushes her forward- at least she has a shot at stopping Trump.
Kamala is polling worse than Biden. Is she really your best option?
Tell me your plan. How is she going to turn it around between now and November? What can Kamala do that Biden can't? How is she going to avoid the appearance that the Democrats don't care what their primary voters think?
Kamala is already in the race. What could she do at the top of the ticket that she can't do now?
And if it's not Harris, then who? Give me a name, and then answer all of those questions for that person.
That's what I'm thinking. Do people really want him to act just like the opposition? How is that any better? I'd rather him lose with dignity then pull stupid stunts like that. To be fair I would rather him not lose at all though. I think people are freaking out a bit too much about meaningless polls. I guess we'll see when the time comes.
It's honestly shocking how that wasn't an absolutely bigger deal because it's a freaking terrifying thing to say from the person we are all saying has to win or else.
But for him it's just another paycheck.
I think it's honestly why the front page is flooded with the project 2025 stuff to kinda bury how terrible a candidate Biden is becoming.
I'm not American and have only brief idea of how US elections work, but.. damn this gets more and more ridiculous every day. I'm not saying Trump is better or anything, that dude is batshit crazy egomaniac, but... But... you're saying there are no other options like if there was only one available candidate from the whole blue party? Or is it impossible (or too late) to switch candidate now? I'm confused.
People don't want to think and want to just assume everything will be fine. They have the right idea and everyone else is wrong and as soon as they can get everyone else to agree to that it will all be better.
This is why the Democrats will lose. If he's got a lab coat on he must be a doctor and must be competent because he is a doctor. Getting a new one would just be too complicated.
This is why it's so easy to lie to people. They want to be lied to. They will even do it to themselves.
Biden is not a good choice but it's an easy one that requires no internal pushback just have to fix everyone else's thoughts on him.
What that should tell you is that Biden and anyone else that approved him saying that doesn't believe the Democrat "vote for us or you'll never vote again"/"end of democracy" style marketing.
Right, because everyone knows a surgeon's competency is 1-1 correlated with their notoriety
Any surgeon I do not know by-name is one that cannot be trusted, so the one and only surgeon I know will be performing my surgery regardless of if he's piss-drunk and coked out.
Never-mind my surgeon introducing me to a new surgeon he recommends; nope, fuck off - he will perform my surgery or we will both die.
Especially if when you asked him if anyone else could do the surgery, and he drifted off, rambled on a bit, then eventually said only "lord God" would prevent him from doing the surgery no matter what anyone else said...
It's fucking insane so many people are defending him. They act like the president is meaningless but also that it has to be Biden. And they can't give a single reason that isn't easily disprovable.
They've tied their identity to Biden like trumpets to trump.
But like, at least with trump I get how idiots would fall for it. I have no idea why it's happening with Biden.
Being given that illusion, doesn't mean that's actually the case. There areother options, they just involve more than bare minimum action, including the discomfort of confronting and unlearning the indoctrination we've been put through from birth, and facing up to the fact that the system is rigged by design and is working as intended, and that no matter which of the teams you pick, neither is there to serve you or society, but the owning class, and themselves, and that only playing by the rules they have set out will never result in that changing.
There is still time to replace Biden. After the convention there won’t be and a lot of ‘we need to replace Biden’ folks will return to supporting Biden because there is no other alternative. Until then they have an entirely justifiable voice.
it's fear mostly. If the democrat candidate changed this late in the run, it significantly lessens the chance that the party will win, and to a lot of them, they see it as a "I can't vote for trump" type vote. Personally I feel if he drops out now, the party wouldn't recover in time for election cycle which would basically give trump the win.
It’s fucking insane so many people are defending him.
It's not. I only defend him when the criticism isn't valid and he's not even my president. People actively ignore that he has a speech impediment. People on this site repeat the lie that he has dementia. And everyone who remotely dislikes him keeps calling him genocide Joe as if he's the one orchestrating the whole Israeli-Palestinian conflict alone, ignoring the history and political context.
They’ve tied their identity to Biden like trumpets to trump.
I hardly think that's true. Biden's personality is boring old white guy with no swag.
2012 debates, this is when his childhood stutter came back, because he's almost 70 (get into that below) but he's still lucid and very on top of his game:
He had a childhood speech impediment. When someone overcomes that, it's because of a semi-concious action in the prefrontal cortex. As we age, that's one of the first parts of our brains that takes a hit. And it is very easy to write off damage for years, but it's accumulating.
That same part of the brain handles critical thinking, controlling emotions, and overcoming impliciti bias which is why there's a stereotype of people "getting" racist as they age. They're literally losing the part of the brain that say people outside of their in-group might not be murderers and thieves.
You don't have to take my word for it. There is literal decades of science about how aging effects the brain.
Look at those videos. Biden isn't starting down this path, he's pretty fucking far down it, and were discussing if he can run the country during a fascist takeover.
libs in this thread: "It's completely fine that best reason to vote for our candidate is that they aren't the other guy, this strategy definitely worked in 2016". At this point I'm at least glad the liberal genocide apologists won't be celebrating in november, gotta find a bright side somewhere.
Ah yes, that old chestnut. 'Yeah sure this other guy would probably genocide harder but he didn't (because he wasn't president) so we should suppress the vote for the old genocide dude to help the other old genocide dude who also hates that autonomy (bodily, electoral, legal) exists at all'. Very sensible, enlightened centrist, let's gooooo.
"We should teach the democrats that they can full throatedly support a genocide while abandoning the left of the party and still win reelection" Great long term strategy there chief.
And I would think biden being a horrible candidate is doing a hell of a lot more to suppress the vote than posts on lemmy.