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The Democrats must become an anti-establishment party | Robert Reich
  • A few weeks ago, I'd have agreed with you, but now? The Democratic party that just lost 10 million votes.. We'll spoil that party? The one that just lost a fair election to a convicted felon? You want to protect them from being spoiled?

    We have 4 years, which is, again, the most time we'll ever get to try something like this because that's how 4 year election cycles work. What is it exactly that they're doing successfully you don't want to spoil?

  • The Democrats must become an anti-establishment party | Robert Reich
  • Oh, I'm all for ranked choice voting, but in order for it to have any meaning we also need a plurality of parties. They also need time to build and I'm sure these two would start a good one if allowed.

    Although the likelihood of political parties having any weight at all past January is anyone's guess..

  • Just walk it off
  • I just want to point out that even you qualify these benefits.

    It MAY ease symptoms. Or it may not. It may EASE symptoms, but it won't get rid of them entirely. It may ease SYMPTOMS, but it's not a cure.

    They're like on the first page of results of anyone who has depression when they look up how to break out of it, so there's an incredibly high likelihood you're not the first person to discover hydration and exercise. They also don't work for everyone, so it can be especially disheartening to hear the same advice over and over when it hasn't worked for you in the past. It starts feeling like no one listens before they give the same 'hydration and exercise' mantra.

  • The Democratic party refused to understand that courting the right doesn't work, and now it's cost them the election
  • 'Decline to answer' is a valid option for those people and they don't get included in these polls.

    You're making speculations as to why they voted the way they said they did, but that's unknowable. Your guess is just as good as mine, which is why it's rude to assume yours is the right guess.

  • The Democratic party refused to understand that courting the right doesn't work, and now it's cost them the election
  • So, you don't trust any poll where people self-report the information?

    You don't mean that. You're just saying that in order to maintain your standing in your community.

    .. see how rude that is to just assume people are lying about themselves as if you know better?

  • The blue line is getting thinner
  • Yeah, and they act like learning about a new skin cream on the street is going to be subjected to the same level of scrutiny as learning about a new study on "gun bans", even though people have been studying this for decades and the results largely don't change, only the public perception of them.

    It's like if they showed people a new study for "Earth gravity" vs "Moon gravity" and act surprised when people don't immediately catch on when their numbers say the moon makes you weigh more. You wouldn't be expecting that result OR trust a random person on the street to change your view of gravity with a chart of 4 numbers.

    Yes, they found bias. Cool.

  • The blue line is getting thinner
  • Alternate title: A single "study" presented from someone on the street is typically not enough to change anyone's perspective on a subject, especially if that "study" presents "facts" that are contradictory to the listener's previous knowledge.

    Humans aren't rational. Humans are rationalizing. If someone on the street giving you a basic chart with 4 numbers on it is enough to change your mind, you likely didn't have much of an opinion to begin with.

  • You choose, even when you don't vote
  • Nah, the problem is that it makes complete sense in the imperfect would we actually live in. You want to have a perfectly logical reason to vote, but you're never going to find it, so good luck. You're going to have to compromise somewhere. I'm just honest about when/where.

  • You choose, even when you don't vote
  • ...you need to show that the general reasoning of choosing the lesser evil is a valid line of thought.

    I really don't though. There isn't an ethics test after the vote. You don't have to show your work. The fact that you're so hung up on this makes me think you just want to "win" an ideological debate, but I'm not having one of those.

    You can vote or not, but there's only two possible outcomes at this point. Believe it or don't. Excuse it or don't.

  • You choose, even when you don't vote
  • It seems like you expect me to vehemently defend this ideology "in general" when I told you it's only for specific circumstances because of the way the system has been rigged since before we were born.

    It's also a smart move to double down bets in specific situations in Vegas, but I'm not going to defend always doing that "in general". Context matters, and you seem to be ignoring the fascist in the room.