More young people choosing permanent sterilization after abortion restrictions, new research shows

I quite like this sign from the Women's March a few years ago-

I’m gonna be making these in bulk and pinning them up everywhere, holy shit

Sorta, but that’s not the whole story. We have two legislative bodies, the House of Representatives and the Senate. In the senate, every state gets two senators. In the house, every state gets at least two representatives, plus some amount based on population - california has 52, for instance.

The original idea was to “make sure rural voices were heard”. In practice, it very much has been what you stated - if you’re educated but not rich enough to benefit from republican policies, you flee red states en masse, leaving mostly rich assholes and uneducated chucklefucks who are hurt most by the very people they elect. They then have a massively disproportionate effect on policy versus any joe schmoe in california.

I wasn't even thinking about that, a 50% reduction in women in child bearing age would absolutely ruin the future population growth of the state, and on an even more basic level, would mean that a lot of men would never find a partner in the state, so they would need to move to other states to find someone, which means even more population loss.

At some point the situation would be so critical that there would be no choice but to change the laws back, and even after that it would take a LONG time for people to get the confidence to move back.

The amount of electoral votes per state is adjusted based on its population, but they all get a minimum of 3. So, if enough people left, it would have some effect on the state's voting power, but once you get to a certain threshold, the weight of each person's vote actually starts to go up.

I'm in the USA and we're a garbage country. Don't get me wrong, there are good areas and good people. But our broken system allows the craziest minority to have an outsized degree of power and they absolutely take advantage of it.

How a state like Wyoming, with fewer than a million people, can get as much say (in the senate) as my state of California is beyond me. We have almost 80x their population, yet they get an equal number of senators. I want a revolution that adjusts their voice to be proportional to their goddamned size.

Yeah any significant change in gender demographics of an area will cause problems. Too few men will cause some issues but our cultures have developed defenses around this problem thanks to cataclysmic wars happening every few generations. Too few women on the other hand will get real bad real fast especially since this will be a situation of existing misogyny driving women away. Some men will get real violent and those capable of living in either society will flee because they won’t get laid otherwise.

Also if it's mostly women leaving, that makes it easier to recruit men into armies if they are told it will help them get laid when there's a huge imbalance. And easier to elect leaders who push male superiority ideas and that women should defer to men.

Technically correct is the best kind of correct

Haha!! I was trying to type 55!!

Not from a normie

The simplest way is to be a Reddit mod.

Do you own a fedora?

So, you know when you see a woman, and you speak with her like a normal person and form a connection? Nothing good comes of that.

Instead of doing that, convince yourself in your head that saying even two words is going to end in disaster and then play on your phone and awkwardly pretend they aren't there until they go away.

It's hard, but with enough practice it will become second nature. You've got this!

yeah, be a turbo nerd, don't be socially competent (autism is a good start) and don't care about romantic relationships. It's all about the interpersonal aspects anyway.

I mean, if she wasn't 'of child bearing age' anymore there wouldn't be any point in tying her tubes anyway, so that's a pointless reason.

As a male, (who thankfully doesn't need it, yet) I agree with this 100%. If these clowns are going to force their beliefs on others, they should have to face the same consequences. Make it illegal, not enough to ban it.

Can we please not do the “it hurts the other side more”-bullshit? Especially in light of the fact that Viagra has legitimate medical uses outside of ED and that ED can also be caused by factors that affect conservatives a lot less, such as HRT for trans women.

Billionaires are a huge issue and so is over population.

Indeed, there's more than 0.

2 things can be true at the same time.

Overpopulation as a dogwhistle for racism is a conservative myth.

Overpopulation in a "I'd rather not turn Earth into Coruscant and so many of our climate and food/water issues would be easier to deal with if the global birth rate slowed voluntarily" is not.

We can handle feeding everybody, we can't handle the trash.

The fear of overpopulation, of the poors overbreeding and overcrowding the rich is basically a given in all political elites. Basically part of the washington consensus.

Our current, below replacement birthrate, no matter how much they try to hide it, is not an accident.

i have a theory that the food shortage is a sort of example of the overpopulation at play.

The sheer fact that there are so many people in this one place, that we can produce too much food, and then not distribute it effectively, implies to me that there are simply too many people in one place for it to be effectively distributed. I.E. over populated.

Hey, haaaaave ya ever heard of personal autonomy?

Exactly what part of that is eugenics? Deciding not to have kids, or recognizing the environmental impact of the choice?

It can be. The system is intentionally bogged down with a lot of red tape to discourage people who aren't fully committed to raising a child, especially one that isn't their own biological offspring. The thing is, raising kids is expensive in general. You'll shell out millions over their lifetime for basic necessities, education and enrichment. If somebody balks at the cost of adoption, they probably aren't ready for kids yet anyway.

Didnt read all of it but what i did read was quite interesting. Just as interesting was the lack of popups and banner ads on the page.

The meek shall inherit. The stupid is anything but meek these days

That is literally the logical falicy that Idiocracy makes fun of and nature vs. nurture is still an ongoing discussion.

True, but it's enough $$$ to be out of range for many (for eggs anyways)

Generally, female sterilization means cutting or removing the fallopian tubes. The eggs and womb (uterus) are still present and functioning, but the pathway for the eggs to travel is no longer available. In other words, eggs wouldn't need to be frozen in case a future pregnancy was wanted. However the eggs would need to be removed and mixed with semen, like in vitro fertilization, for a pregnancy to actually occur.

"i froze my eggs/sperm and am now sterilized permanently. Eat shit losers."

fine be me. Not like i'm going to of much help doing anything else LMAO.

Same here. I'm dude who was very upfront in his bio about being an asexual nerd and I still got booty called by plenty of women who seemed surprised when I told them I was ace. And it's not even like I'm hot. That's not just low self esteem talking, I'm so generic looking people literally struggle to describe me and I think it's hilarious. I'm pretty sure a lot of people (men and women) are just lonely and playing the numbers game hoping something works at this point.

I do have insurance. I'll have to see what's covered. Part of it is just going through the actual steps of scheduling and doing all the leg work.

Greatly depends on the state. The ACA made coverage for female sterilization mandatory, though I believe some states have passed laws against this. A handful of states have laws requiring coverage for male sterilization, unfortunately mine was not one.

I have some nurses in my family and have a recommendation from a cousin that got one from a highly rated doctor. If it turns out too expensive I'll check there.

It is not six months. I was told by my doctor it was roughly one month, 30 days, and that was the time frame in which I was tested for before and after.

It can, in some situations, take up to three months at the outside. But definitely not six.

I have sent an email to setup an appointment. And my cousin told me the same thing about having to empty the tank before you're good to go.

As a woman, I am extremely jelous. I just get "wHaT iF YoU WaNt ChIlDREn?"

I’ll have sex with you.

Support for abortion isn't a genetic trait, but religious parents tend to raise religious kids due to environmental factors.

I don't think it with be a big enough difference to matter given how much more liberal people get over time, but it is possible this will happen a bit.

Sorry, I should have been clearer, as I wasn't aiming to suggest it was a genetic trait. As another commenter indicated below, as well as another in this thread, I was asking in relation to the upbringing perspective.

Although I'm well aware upbringing isn't brainwashing, and so even those anti-abortion parents couldn't prevent their children from being for bodily autonomy, but I thought it worth asking about to see what others might think. If you read through some conservative leaning texts, some of them unambiguously talk about having children for the express purpose of perpetuating their beliefs, so at least some will view this trend as in their favor.

Also to be completely clear here: I'm pro-choice, and for bodily autonomy.

Then this doesn't apply to you why are you commenting

Or they fail.

"I forego the ability to have children in case I get raped and do not take the morning after pill"

it is an almost universally held belief that condom sex is shit sex not worth having.

Many false beliefs are held by a high number of people.

Are you really trying to pull a popularity fallacy?

damn, bro would rather fuck a faux rubber pussy than fuck a pussy with rubber in between.