GOP official argues in favor of child marriage: Girls are ‘ripe’ and ‘fertile’
GOP official argues in favor of child marriage: Girls are ‘ripe’ and ‘fertile’
Twenty states don't set minimum age for girls to marry
TRANS PEOPLE and DRAG QUEENS are BAD for KIDS but ALSO we should be able to MARRY CHILDREN!
-Republicans. All of them!
I’m at a loss for words. How did this man not get shouted down for saying that out loud and in public?! Those are the thoughts of a predator, which is a position of power.
They’re degenerates.
Always have been, however without facing real consequences they’ve grown way too bold!
When they screamed about the degeneration of Western society it wasn’t a warning it was an announcement. Everything is just projection with these evil cunts
Full context:
If we continually restrict the freedom of marriage as a legitimate social option, when we do this to people who are a ripe, fertile age and may have a pregnancy and a baby involved, are we not, in fact, making abortion a much more desirable alternative
I think this can be interpreted as "young people will inevitably get pregnant", not "young people should get pregnant".
Still wrongheaded and cringeworthy, but maybe not as monstrous as it initially looked.
No. That’s even worse.
They’re arguing that children should get married to provide for kids.
Reality: the only people that can afford to support not one but two children…. Are creepy old men.
The argument is that because kids might get preggo, they should be allowed to marry them and make them preggo
That’s fucked up.
If we continually restrict the freedom of marriage as a legitimate social option, when we do this to people who are a ripe, fertile age and may have a pregnancy and a baby involved, are we not, in fact, making abortion a much more desirable alternative
Read as:
If we ban child marriage, then desperate single mothers will want to have abortions instead of getting married like God intended.
Dude's literally complaining that children getting abortions is easier than getting children married. No, that sounds exactly as ghoulish and monstrous as it appeared.
In my mind there is no generous interpretation of his words as there is a paragraph which makes his statement worse in my opinion.
In a state where 18 is not old enough to drink, Edwards believes girls at 16 are old enough to get married.
He wants marriage to 16 year olds to be legal; I don’t believe this is a good thing, especially if he also then argued for parental consent for marriages to adult men. It’s a huge red flag to me, personally.
Yeah but he skipped adoption and the idea that parents can continue to support their daughter even if she's not a virgin. Teens getting married because one of them got pregnant is not the first thing I want people to think of. A teen marrying her statutory rapist should be even farther down the list.
Repubs love voting for rapists and pedophiles.
He’s representing his constituency.
Have you seen the GOP before?
I’m deeply familiar with them it’s never been in their nature to say the quiet part out loud in front of everyone! Rather it’s projecting their desires on others to vilify them, hopefully their looser tongues sink their ship. 🤢
Removed from the delicate snowflake Conservative community lol
Oh, are the /r/Conservative mods here too?
When they only have two brain cells to share, they have to pass them around communities.
Cuckflakes.
Are people posting lemmy links on reddit? Why?
Can I get banned from there too?
It's worth the remembering that these are the "LGBT = groomers" people. However, I posit that this horrid statement belies the truth, which is that they're not trying to protect children, at least not individual children from specific ills. The anti-queer vitriol is, and has always been, grounded in eugenics. this is also why conservatives' eyes glaze over whenever the topic of queer youth suicide rates in restrictive states is broached. Taken with the ever-present conservative fixation on 'ripe' and 'fertile' underage girls, alongside the Great Replacement conspiracy that has become central to their rhetoric, I feel justified in saying OH MY GOD THIS IS FASCISM WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK HOW IS THIS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE.
The tired, old trope of "Every accusation is a confession" tends to be true with conservatives.
It’s grounded in disgust over violations of what they perceive to be natural. They see a 16 year old girl having a husband to be natural, they see a 16 year old AFAB boy as being a violation of the natural order. And since they see queerness as a sexual perversion and marriage as the sacred outlet of sexuality they see queer people as pushing sex on teenagers when they’re just encouraging them to settle down and have a family
Legitimately how do conservatives even try to defend this
"Biden has said worse"
"They didn't mean it like that"
"Your source is corrupt"
"They are lying about their age because they are immigrants"
Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.
The more you get angry, the more they can play victim.
Because the GOP have taken Mitch McConnell's mantra of "if the Democrats are for it, we must speak out against it, no matter what" to ridiculous extremes.
I would make a hyperbolic example about the GOP arguing in favor of murdering puppies and kittens if the Democrats wanted to save them, but they've already argued in favor of forcing 10 year old rape victims to give birth, telling those children they should be happy for the "blessing" they received, murdered schoolchildren being nothing more than the price we pay for a 'free society', and guns being necessary and more important than the safety of our children because they need to shoot prairie dogs. I don't think any hyperbole is necessary.
But this is how we get here. When the default is to be against literally anything the Democrats support, and the answer to the "what if...." questions that follow are to either double down on the extremism and/or just say "ban that too!", this is the only logical outcome.
I think you're underestimating the extent to which they really want these things, or their donors do. These issues aren't new, and many of them either trace back to before the founding of the country, or are proxies for other issues which do. They're just feeling bold these days.
It's a brain malfunction where cognitive dissonance apparently feels good.
We are right, you're wrong.
There is a defense for these laws! Which makes it doubly fucked up that I've never once heard a Republican utter it.
(Among other issues, marriage wipes out many legal complications of inheritance.)
Soooo, don't keep us waiting, what is it?
So does adoption. And properly managed wills, trusts, and estates.
… If we continually restrict the freedom of marriage as a legitimate social option, when we do this to people who are a ripe, fertile age and may have a pregnancy and a baby involved, are we not, in fact, making abortion a much more desirable alternative, when marriage might be the right solution for some freedom-loving couples?” he said.
Gross.
He believes child marriage should be an option, so abortion isn't an option. I would expect this from 4chan, not a government official.
Well that’s a gross new dog whistle to listen for.
“Freedom-loving couples” is shorthand for “oh shit I knocked up this ripe fertile child I was fucking, and I love freedom, so now I need to marty/own her instead of going to jail.”
I mean, I don’t know what he’s whining about. In most states all he has to do is get the parents’ permission, and he can marry her even if she’s underage. Maybe he’s mad that 12 states ban it completely?
On a side note, why is that a fucking exception in the law!?
Heyyyy 4chan’s b exposes paedos, conservative people DEFEND paedos. There’s a difference there!
Fucking groomers going after kids with nothing but sex on their mind.
I wish he gets every kind of cancer.
“… If we continually restrict the freedom of marriage as a legitimate social option, when we do this to people who are a ripe, fertile age and may have a pregnancy and a baby involved, are we not, in fact, making abortion a much more desirable alternative, when marriage might be the right solution for some freedom-loving couples?”
It’s either abortion or marriage, it seems. No other alternative. Also, Freedom loving couples? Never knew hippies to be into traditional marriage. Someone please shut this degenerate up for good.
"We need child marriage because it's the only solution to child rape!"
These people aren't even pretending anymore.
Me, who was adopted as a child: "Oh they forgot about adoption again. I'm shocked."
Same here but I NEVER think about that
"Freedom of Marriage".
So these two men who have been together for 10 years can get married?
"No, not like that..."
Someone please shut this degenerate up for good.
let's shut them all up for good. the world would turn on a dime within one decade.
I think the GOP intentionally spews some ridiculous shit like this every so often to make their regular shit look less crazy.
That’s not even a conspiracy theory; It’s literally why reps like MTG, Boeburt, and Ted Cruz exist. Their entire goal is to drag the Overton window farther to the right. They’re in safe seats where they don’t need to worry about reelection. So they’re able to spew batshit crazy far-right propaganda, and it makes the republicans in threatened seats look less crazy. Because if you’re in a threatened seat, you need to appear moderate to catch the swing votes. It allows those threatened republicans to continue to quietly vote along party lines without looking like a hardline republican.
Yep, to move the Overton Window to the right. The left should do this as well. If a group of real leftist put out a political platform it would make Biden look like a Republican.
- Completly ban lobbying
- Free healthcare for all
- Free college for all
- Housing guarantee - homelessness not acceptable
- Billionaires fortunes taken and redistributed
- Ban fossil fuel subsidies
- Military exit from all countries except as part of multi-lateral peace keeping forces
Stuff like that
Just one thing. You can't ban lobbying. You can and should highly regulate it. But you'd have to put your representatives in an isolation chamber if lobbying was banned. What we need to do is define anything more than a handshake passing between lobbyist and politician as a bribe. But Congress pulled the FBIs fangs decades ago now.
I wish it was some strategic play to manipulate public opinion. But this is sincerely what white nationalists who have ingested too much Great Replacement Theory honestly think.
Teenage girls are just baby-making factors for the "correct" ethnicity. Everything about our civilization hinges on the level of pigmentation in our skin and the shape of our foreheads/lips. We need to be prepared for a War To End All Wars, and that means churning out an army of Ubermensch to combat the savage hordes.
It isn't an act. This is what they sincerely believe. 20 years of post-9/11 hysteria and migrant-bashing has produced a party dead set on doing Nazi shit all over again, but from the inside of the country that won the last big war.
20 years ago that was their plan, but now they used the BS to control the masses so long, and so thoroughly, that the rubes that the were playing have taken control of the party.
See: Tea Party Republicans.
They absolutely are what happened when the rubes got tired of the lip service and demanded action.
Now, if only the radicals of the left could do the same, grow tired of the lip service, and hijack the Democratic Party.
Remember: It’s not paedophilia if it comes from the Bible.
Relevant Classic Trevor Moore Song:
Songs of Olden Times https://youtu.be/l_fIWlu5zuo
Let us see if it shows up at the GOP convention...
Let’s set aside morality, because that’s also wrong. It’s factually incorrect. You want someone to die in childbirth? Knock them up at 16. Early 20s are the actual reproductive prime.
Whoa whoa whoa...he didn't say ripe, fertile and likely to survive child birth... this is pretty consistent with thier priorities.
Yup. Whenever someone tries to justify underage marriage with “most fertile period” or “it’s always been the norm”, you know they’re a pedo. Teenage pregnancies are risky because the pelvis hasn’t fully developed, and the girl is more likely to suffer severe depression as well. Most fertile age is more like 19-32 not 12-18. Also, I live in the UK and marriage records kept by the church from the 1400s show the vast majority of girls married for the first time in their early twenties, not teen years :)
Yeah I looked up my family on the Mormon genealogy site and was surprised how many of the women married around 28-30 years old. Certainly not as teens and I really was surprised. Like, I as a modern woman had kids younger than a good chunk of my ancestresses.
Truth. Marriages at a super young age were not normal outside of nobility doing it for political alliance reasons and even then the general advice were not to try for a pregnancy because your risks of killing a young spouse were astronomically high. However the concept was popularized by fiction that basically wanted to trade on the idea of a gritty nasty medieval age where the darkness of the human soul cam be laid bare and how mankind has evolved into a kinder more civilized place... basically the same thematic itch as Warhammer grimdark logic.
In regards to the whole "darkness of the human soul" thing it really doesn't stack. People just want to believe their personal id (as in the Freudian concept, not "identity" ) is more universal than it is.
What the actual fuck.
And they accuse us of being groomers
Yo United States, please save your country from these crazies.
I’m voting as hard as I can, but they’re making it as difficult as possible and even some of our leaders advocate for ignoring the votes.
If you’re voting, you’re not the problem. We’re failing at the polls and then complaining of the repercussions for their entire term.
Yo I live in California. I can’t vote for people in Mississippi.
Yet somehow conservatives think they can point at liberals as the “groomers.”
Because whatever disgusting, vile thoughts run through their heads is what they assume others must be doing.
Some call it projection... but it's projection because these are things they are OBSESSED with. They are so sick and lacking empathy and experience that can't imagine that others genuinely think differently than they do. Every accusation is an admission.
As always, it is all about Projection.
Ew. Ew, ew, ew. Gross in ways I didn't think an elected official could get away with in public.
Someone needs to do a wellness check on his kids, if he has any. Again... Ew.
With a statement like this, it's more likely he has grandkid-kids.
I just threw up a little in my mouth.
and 20 states do not require any minimum age for marriage.”
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The exceptions in the law:
If the child is pregnant
If a judge okays it
If the parents okay it
Nothing wrong with this picture, nope, nope, nope. No abuse could possibly happen with this setup.
Oh most of those states don't even require a pregnancy. Just for the adults in the situation to approve of it. Technically the kid too but that's probably the easiest part.
What's amazing to me is the absolute caterwauling from grown men in the Republican party when you suggest you should have to be 18 to get married. Like that 75 year old guy is worried he won't be able to marry a high school girl.
LPT: If you have to sleep with the judge to get his approval, do it before the proceedure
This is very on-brand.
Remember though, there are bad actors and propagandists here that will try to convince you that both sides are the same.
They’re provably not.
VOTE LIKE LIVES DEPEND ON IT. Because they do.
Someone's certainly does, and you won't be the one picking whom.
Edit: I'm not sure what I meant by this. Needed a nap.
Republican men can’t attract Republican women. So….
The issue attracting republican women, it's controlled republican girls. By marrying their female children at a young age, they've reduced their ability to escape the indoctrination cycle.
That and they want to be able rape post prepubescent children legally when their men hit midlife crisis age.
Are all conservatives disgusting, or just most?
It's an angler fish thing. Sometimes you see the nightmare lurking in the darkness, but usually you get the "some of the nicest people you'll ever meet!" facade.
Probably most. You'd see 1000s of articles every day non-stop, if 20%+ of people were this disgusting.
The fact that you can still be surprised is proof that most of them aren't this disgusting.
Idk man, they have to be some level of disgusting to keep voting these people in.
All. But as with most things, it's a spectrum.
Some are just a bit yucky.
Still, make sure to wash your hands.
Yo what the fuck
And that’s just ONE official that is saying that aloud for the press to hear. Imagine how many of his colleagues, just as sick and twisted as him, are of the same opinion and just not saying anything.
There is no good Republican.
child rape party. party of people who want to rape children, want to ensure that child rapists do not face consequences, and want to ensure that raped children cannot escape the consequences of being raped.
Pedo party
One of the few parties deserving of Jim Jones fruit punch.
Yet complete silence from the Q anon community.
They're cheering it on.
But the people wearing kink gear at pride events are the real predators!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Dude just said the quite part out load. If the GOP gets full control over the government, legalized child marriage would be rolled out in days.
Child marriage is already legal in quite a few states with parental permission. And there are a lot of terrible parents.
Of course it’s a crusty old white guy.
It’s a total coincidence that they want to force little girls to give birth too.
His actual quote in the article is even worse
And I'm sure he was drooling a little when he said it
GOP is always projecting on other groups. People have to stop showing them any form of respect and treat them like lowlifes they are.
Keeping birth rates high is hugely important for capitalism to maintain its endless growth of wealth.
Tell me you're psycho-sexually underdeveloped without telling me you're psycho-sexually underdeveloped
Groo... Wait for it... Ooomers!
I'm gonna puke
Well, we know where his mind is.
For contrast the legal marriage age in Saudi Arabia is 18.
house of Reps or Rapes ?
Imagine this guy marrying your
daughterchild 🤢More importantly, is this some sort of ploy to get the angry young men vote?
My sis is 2 decades younger than me. She now the age our mom gave birth me to me. The idea of teen pregnancy kind of make me want to cry to think about it. Just so sad.
I see they are using the tactics of religion - get them young.
Oh hey it's that joke I made earlier. Fucking wonderful.
This guy:
wtf I thought this was the onion, I had to read where this came from like three times.
wtf..
Pieces of shit like this aren't worth the price of a bullet to put them out of our misery.
They are not, but I'll gladly buy all the bullets required to keep children safe from religious idiots and republikkklowns.
Completely agree.
WHAT THE FUCK
Ugh, but guys palestine...
Probably on the latest version of Epstein's list.
Dude's not nearly rich or connected enough to hang with the Wall Street freaks or the Silicon Valley geeks. He's probably raping his way through his local church group, though.
Is this a headline from 200 years ago??
In China, the phrase 豆蔻年华 refers to a girl of 13-14. Why? Because a famous poet likened the appearance of a child prostitute's developing vagina to a cardamom flower. Apparently that was totally fine, romantic even. I feel bad for the girl.
Anyway here's the flower:
So after searching a bit, "豆蔻年华" appears to translate to "cardamom years".
In case anyone else thought that the post above wasn't terribly clear.
thanks, i was curious about the translation, but didnt plan to search that myself without knowing what it meant!
Turns out the reality behind that Shane Gillis bit was that they were trying to go even lower
Where does the GOP get these guys?
Fire that pervert right now
Why? WHY WHY WHY
How does the New Hampshire House of Reps have 400 members?
Because a single representative represents a lot fewer people their.
Dudes anthem is Into the Night by Benny Mardones.
The lyrics are so creepy, but the music slaps
-Jess Edwards
The parts of the world where violent crime is lowest have the highest mean age of motherhood. Women in Australia and the UK, for example, wait until after 30 before having their first child.
The parts of the world where violent crime is the highest have the lowest mean age of motherhood.
Nobody should be encouraging pregnancy before age 30.
People should just stop trying to interfere with people's private life in general. Get pregnant or don't, how is that a concern to me?
As long as it's two consenting adults, which should be obvious, but sadly apparently isn't.
Get pregnant or don't, how is that a concern to me?
Because every society where the average person starts a family before age 22 is described as "developing" or "impoverished" and every society where the average person starts a family after the age of 28 is described as "industrialized".
I challenge you to find an exception.
I don't think your conclusion is correct and a correlation between the two numbers is by far not enough to assume a causality between the two of them. I would rather assume there are a lot of other factors being involved. Like e.g. the education system, especially the amount of years spent on education before starting to work, the general wealth of the society, the social securities provided the government, like e.g. health care, unemployment support etc.
Like e.g. the education system, especially the amount of years spent on education before starting to work
Exactly. It's kinda hard to spend years on education, years building a nest egg, when you haven't spent all that many years alive.
The correlation is through socioeconomic conditions, correct. Older parents have worked longer, saved more, and can provide greater opportunities to their children, which in turn creates a more prosperous society that values education, social security, etc.
That last take comes off as weird, ngl. Just let people do what they want.
I think you're reading more into my statement than what I actually said.
This thread is about a GOP official encouraging child pregnancy:
GOP official argues in favor of child marriage: Girls are ‘ripe’ and ‘fertile’
I don't think we should just let that GOP official do what he wants.
I think your criticism is about reproductive rights: that we should leave individuals to make their own decisions. I agree.
However, when the question comes up as to the best time to start a family, there is an answer: "after 30".