I love how they're using the full force of their resources to catch this guy, but a random murder they put two detectives on for a few months, shrug and close the case.
This needs more attention. We should all be collectively outraged at the police response. They should saddle 2 detectives with the case and direct all these resources back to where they were before. The rest of the CEOs can sleep with one eye open.
Honestly? Yea probably. It'd be fucking amazing if the police ended up releasing a report on just how much UHC fucked this guy or his family/friends over.
I mean for all we know it has nothing to do with healthcare premiums. The guy could be a fellow board member who got boned out of a bonus or something.
The message on the bullets would suggest otherwise. To me that seems like an attempt to preempt speculation that the motive had nothing to do with insurance company fuckery.
And you don’t have to ask him why he is running. It’s perfectly legal to help a stranger in need without asking them if they broke the law. In fact, it used to be seen as the most Christian thing to do by not judging.
This isn't true. Harboring someone from the police after they commit a crime makes you an accessory, not a primary.
Edit: to be more concrete and actually cite what I'm saying (my bad), we'll use federal law since they clearly crossed state lines multiple times in the stages of committing this act of heroism crime:
An accessory after-the-fact is someone who, knowing a crime was committed, receives, relieves, comforts, or assists the offender or in any manner aids them to escape arrest or punishment. See: U.S. v. Triplett, 92 F.2d 1174 (5th Cir. 1991). The aid provided by the defendant to the principal must be given after the principal completes the crime.
The basic elements the government must demonstrate to prove that a defendant was an accessory after-the-fact are: (1) the commission of an underlying crime against the United States; (2) the defendant’s knowledge of that offense; and (3) assistance by the defendant in order to prevent the apprehension, trial, or punishment of the offender. See: U.S. v. White, 135 S. Ct. 1573, 191 L. Ed. 2d 656 (2015); Ellis v. U.S., 806 F. Supp. 2d 538 (E.D. N.Y. 2011).
Oh shit, a crime the cops actually have to solve, haha, can't just frame some poor sap this time gotta do some actual detective work. I hope they never catch him and the PD gets defunded. I know its NYC and they need cops but I think they could use a haircut at least
I'm entirely unconvinced that anyone needs the thugs with badges. Multiple studies have shown that every single time that the NYPD pulls a "blue flu," the crime rate drops, significantly. As far as I can tell, the thugs with badges cause a significant amount of the crime in this country.
I agree, but if one day we abolished all cops, people in NYC especially would freak out. Hell some cops would probably do a bunch of crime to prove a point. Its not a demand that people like very much, . I think the police as a force that absolutely only exists to protect private property of the owning class, and I don't know if you wanna hear my "nuanced" opinions and I don't know if they're worth very much. But I think that the police as a reactive force needs to be handled tactically in order to protect people who are protesting and force through demands. By and large I agree with Farrell Dobbs analysis in teamster rebellion was, during a political rebellion such as the 1934 Minneapolis teamster strike, the state of a police department changes daily and must be evaluated daily based on primarily their numbers. It would be great for left wing mass movements to make demands on the ruling class if that number was zero, but that's unrealistic and most people know it.
Hate to burst the bubble but this guy threatened the illusion that the billionaire class is untouchable. The ultra-rich are going to be leaning heavily on all the politicians and officials they helped put into position to ensure this guy gets caught no matter the cost, and ensure he's made an example of.
It might not be the NYPD or any other civil police department, but you can bet NSA & FBI leadership is getting multiple phone calls demanding they get involved and go over every piece of information related to the shooting they can get till they identify the killer. The ultra-rich won't let this one slide as one of their own was publicly murdered, so they won't stop at anything to ensure the killer's character is publicly murdered so that anyone who tries to copycat or get ideas can equally be ostracized as an outcast.
He's not getting a jury. They're going to cut him down and say he shot himself so his legacy will be that he was a coward
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At least that will be the attempt but it seems like everyone will know better
This exactly my thought. They will do everything to make him crazy or suicidal.The good thing is that someone leak what he wrote on the casing. This makes it clear he is socially motivated. Hopefully, if they ever close in, he will have an online stream up.
Could even stop before it gets that far. It'll be difficult to convene a jury with so many candidates dismissed for saying "nah, fuck health insurance CEOs".
I wouldn't rely on nullification. I instead think this guy deserves a full pardon. We pardon domestic abuse victims who kill their abusers, is this situation really so different?
Yup, this is my concern. They’ll claim he resisted during their no-knock raid, and they had no choice but to execute him in his bed. And all of the body footage will be “accidentally” scrubbed, or every single officer “forgot” to turn their body cams on.
“The assassin didn’t resist” is going to be the new “Epstein didn’t kill himself.”
The average person who gets chosen for jury duty somehow won't know who this guy is despite reports on every media outlet. It blows my mind how oblivious those people can be.
Yuuuup. Like that spike in Google searches for "did Biden drop out" or whatever during the week leading up to the election. A lot of people live with their head in the sand.
In that case the jury conversation will go something like this: “I wonder why the judge won’t allow anyone to know the victim’s occupation?”
The second the jury finds out this guy was a health-insurance CEO, half of them will shrug and go “time served”.
If I asked every single person I’m on a first name basis with what jury nullification was I bet a large sum of money that none of them would have an answer.
Imagine what happens if they fail, and they can't even produce a fall guy?
The thing is, Americans know their police force is lazy and useless. We're all joking about all the murders that will go unsolved that have occurred since the CEO's death. Now, there's a real chance that their incompetence will be on full display. Is it really out of the question to think that they have become so impotent that someone could carefully plan and execute an assassination?
i bet this will become the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect our oligarchy from us and; given the democrat's obstinacy when it came to constructive criticism during the election; americans will treat it as another nothing-burger like they did with the genocide and it'll become yet another nail in the coffin of the american empire's decline; besides the election, ukraine's defeat, afghanistan withdrawal, iraqi wmd's, etc.
this will become the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect our oligarchy from us
This feels hyperbolic.
The state protects the status quo, including whoever has money. I wouldn't limit it to surveillance. If we're just talking about the US, there's the Battle of Blair Mountain, all of COINTELPRO, Watergate (I think?), etc.
the difference is that it's in the news and has widespread appeal.
those examples were either done surreptitiously or were only academic exercises in privacy; this is real-world application of that academic theory that has the chance of not being suppressed or ignored due to its notoriety.
Unfortunately, I've worked with a lot of republicans in my lifetime. Hating overpaid CEOs and thinking insurance is a scam are 2 of the only things I've seen republicans and democrats agree on. Good fucking luck convicting him.
The continued existence of police forces in the US depends on their role as protector of the wealthy. They know they must perform their duty or risk losing the protection of their patrons.
If the FBI and the NYPD don't have the footage they need within 1 week, their ability to catch the right guy will diminish, as CCTV feeds from across the country get overwritten. If the suspect can grow and keep facial hair it would probably be difficult to match against these images. They could request some from the bus centers in Atlanta, New York and every stop in between but there's only so much footage they'll be able to get their hands on, this person seems to know what they were doing and staying less identifiable in public.
That would make more sense. The distinctive backpack must have made him easily traced by cameras.
Why would he do that?
Either he was incompetent or he knows the art of misdirection. A mask that he knowing allowed to be seen would send the authorities on a wild goose chase. All of the cops would be looking for the wrong person for a long time.
A quick change, ditch all the distinctive outfit, and change into a non-descript Walmart outfit. Then take care to let no camera see his real face as he high-tails to a safe location.
I'm wondering if they're holding back on sharing extra pictures of him, because by now they must be aware that the likelihood of people helping him hide is super high
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if people broke out of any detention facility of he is ever to be caught just to drive the point home to the parasite class...
50 years later they finally find him having lived a long fruitful life I'm Santa Monica as a smile model in Colgate commercials. Had 10 children with a beautiful model wife who loved him. Probably worked at the muffler shop for 20 years before discovering his Passion for photography.
This is how I learn that Optum is a subsidiary. Even more apropos that this happened just before I took my wife to another chemo appointment at a facility that was recently bought by Optum ... two and a half weeks late because insurance dragged its feet on authorization.
The reality is: Unless he fled the country he was always going to be caught. That is the point of living in a surveillance state. It was just a matter of time.
As a thought exercise, imagine a bathroom. Ten people go in. One person flips their jacket inside out. Ten people come out. Do you suddenly lose that one person who now has a green jacket instead of a red one? No. You realize the person with a green jacket never "entered" and know something was up.
And now extend that to every single traffic camera, security camera, and so forth in the city and in the country. Because now that "bathroom" is a camera at every major exit in and out of Central Park as well as places where the shrubbery is low enough that you can hop a fence.
And yes, that is a VERY large amount of data. If only we had spent the past few decades learning to represent things as graph problems, how to use computer vision to automate recognition, and so forth.
It was obviously dramatized (and is fascinating from a production standpoint and how much effort they put in to keep the nazi from killing anyone...) but Person of Interest wasn't some dystopic future. It was, if anything, underestimating what is already possible.
So... here is hoping that ridiculously handsome G went straight to the airport and flew to a non extradition treaty country. Probably didn't though and is probably going to get picked up at a bus station.
Also: For all the gun nuts who think you rae going to use your closet full of AR-15s to scream "WILDCATS" and fight off the fascists or invaders or whatever? They'll have access to those cameras too and will be able to figure out what house or cave you are hiding in and send a few drones. So... yeah
Eh. Read up on some of the other big mysteries (stuff like The Somerton Man). Every few years someone who has made it their career/identify has some irrefutable evidence that is either refuted or determined to not be that unique. Or it has been solved for decades but nobody cared enough to make it official and the people writing books/doing talk shows benefit from a "mystery".
And in this case? McCoy had already been arrested for a similar crime and is long dead. Nobody really cared to keep searching.
But also? We have a LOT more cameras these days and a LOT more ability to process that data without human intervention.
Also, just to make it clear: even if the shooter escaped the country, they are going to be identified (flying on a fake ID is a lot harder and you can bet all the passengers are being checked against the pictures). But it won't be US cops that catch him (probably just as dead if he doesn't completely disappear though).