Nobody tell him about restaurant kitchens washing their chicken in bleach to remove the smell of freezer burn...
Hey it's not my fault preps didn't pull shit. Put those 200 thighs under the faucet STAT
So that's why I can't get my chicken to taste restaurant quality!
It’s recommended you DON’T wash your chicken because that just throws bacteria around your kitchen.
Cook it thorougly. Use a meat thermometer to be sure and you’ll be fine.
I remember hearing the same thing.
I believe that's a myth. If you cook thoroughly, you don't need to worry about bacteria. Why would it matter if its being moved around then?
There sure are plenty of 'under no circumstances' articles and testimonials parroting each other.Washing removes the gooey protein film on the surface, which otherwise ends up cooking into a egg-white-like membrane.
You can also wipe it with a paper towel to accomplish the same.
You should, at the very least, always dry your chicken to allow the surface to brown properly. Otherwise you end up with the hospital patient pale white.- reading around, it's spreading the bacteria from the chicken to the environment thats the problem, so I was wrong there. Paper towel it is from now on.
It’s recommended you DON’T wash your chicken because that just throws bacteria around your kitchen.
I believe that’s a myth. If you cook thoroughly, you don’t need to worry about bacteria. Why would it matter if its being moved around then?
I think they mean that if you wash the chicken before cooking you might propel the not-yet-dead bacteria around your kitchen, which is worse than putting it all in the oven together to kill it.
Yep, you nailed it in your edit. We do exactly that - dry it off with a few paper towels, then roast. As long as you can resist devouring the paper towels or dragging them all over the house (I'm looking at my sleeping dogs as I type this), it's safe.
I was going to mention not washing your chicken, but the comments nail it. Don't wash your chicken, the bacteria just spreads around your kitchen.
I remember watching an interview with some chef once. They were asked what common things they would see when they're at someone's house that would keep them from eating, just out of fear. Washing raw chicken in the sink was the instant answer. It splashes everywhere and is very likely to contaminate half your kitchen.
That's disgusting.
That's why I bring my raw chicken to the bathtub. The curtains keep it contained, and it gives me something to do while I shower.
I'm confused what they think they're washing off. If you don't believe the cooking kills the germs then you're not cooking it right (or are confused). If you think it's something that won't come off with cooking like dirt or dust, then, ew, why are you getting chicken from somewhere that gets it covered in dirt or dust?
I’m confused what they think they’re washing off.
A LOT of kitchen practices in families are passed-down traditions, with a lot of people not really knowing why they do the things they do.
My Filipino family-in-law washes their cuts of meat, which yeah is entirely unnecessary and I always wondered why they do it, then I traveled to the Philippines and saw the town where they lived, and most of the local butchers hang fresh cuts of meat up on hooks, uncovered, right next to busy roads and sidewalks.
I genuinely don't know how everyone there hasn't died of acute food poisoning from the unrefrigerated meats in high heat and humidity, but they at least like to wash off the road grime and dust.
It can also help tenderize the meat (via vinegar or lemon/lime); I tend to find that, when "nondeveloped" countries talk about washing their meat, it means in a vinegar/citrus solution while "developed" countries quite literally mean just plain water.
I don't know what this text is going on about. People don't wash the 'white shit' off chicken. Some people think that washing chicken (or poultry in general) reduces the chance of cross contamination due to salmonella. In reality it makes it more likely for cross contamination because it splatters all around your sink and surrounding areas.
It also doesn't make it taste bland. It's just useless.
My guess is that Anon made an assumption about what they were attempting to do while washing it off and that night didn't put a lot of effort into the cooking and also expected it to taste bad.
People who consume a lot of floor chickens
Sometimes it’s the bacteria that kills you sometimes it’s the poop of the bacteria that kills you. The latter won’t matter if you cook it well or not. But yeah generally it’s useless to wash chicken.
Butcher pubes
Unwashed Chicken is totally safe if you do this one amazing trick.
Cook it properly.
If you don't know how to do that by sight or touch then buy yourself a instant read thermometer.
Washed chicken won't be any safer if it's undercooked, salmonella isn't a surface only danger, so you can remove the "unwashed" part at the beginning.
Washed chicken is a stupid concept, I was including the unwashed part because that is the default state of uncooked chicken.
Unless you accidentally drop a chicken on the floor and don't want to waste it, there isn't a reason to wash it.
And by washing it you might spread the salmonella all over the place.
ITT: people who undercook their chicken think that washing is what's saving them when in reality, washing your chicken only enables a host of cross-contamination issues. Congratulations for turning your sink into a biohazard facility.
Red meat can be eaten rare, because even if the inside is raw, it's not usually contaminated by anything dangerous, while chicken meat has to be throughly cooked because it's the opposite... So washing the outside is useless.
Wait, you don't eat chicken medium rare?
If you hold your chicken for ten minutes at temperature, you can cook it medium rare and pink. https://blog.thermoworks.com/chicken-internal-temps-everything-you-need-to-know/
Yes people do it.
No they shouldn't.
Maybe we all should once Trump disbands the USDA.
I used to not until
primepeople who worked at the processing plant informed me of what goes on. Wash it, it's disgusting. Also clean off the gross white stuff and as much fat as you can. I leave the skin though. @
I used to have a roommate that would wash her veggies and meat in the soapy dishwasher freaking disgusting
So that's why cilantro tastes like that?
My eggs have chickenshit on them and thats' why they don't need refrigeration like you do in the US.
Also, I can eat them raw if I like. Finnish health authorities sign off on that.
That isn't entirely correct, the layer of mucous around the egg is called the bloom - it isn't shit that protects the egg. The bloom actually protects the egg from bacteria that live in the chicken shit, and washing them removes that layer of mucous . Even still, the likelihood of getting salmonella from a supermarket egg is like 1 in 20k or something like that.
Source: I have chickens.
spujb is not an idiot, I made a mistake
it isn't shit that protects the egg
Lol I never claimed it is.
But if there's shit on the egg, it strongly implies they haven't been washed and thus have an intact bloom.
getting salmonella from a supermarket egg is like 1 in 20k or something like that.
Not in Finland. That high percentages, that is.
Lots of people in the US have backyard chickens and their eggs have shit on them. A lot of us still refrigerate them though (I do). Once you're raised with it, it's a hard mindset to break.
Oh I refrigerate my eggs as well. I don't have my own though.
The shit itself isn't protective, but having it there is a sign the eggs aren't washed like they do in the US egg industry, which removes some sort of protection from the exterior of the shell, which is why US eggs often need refrigeration.
Aussie supermarkets sometimes refrigerate eggs and sometimes not. No idea what’s going on with them.
I just spray paint mine. Last for months.
My eggs do last for months without going bad and they're not refrigerated.
How long do your eggs last?
Also if you don't know whether eggs are bad or not, see if they float. If they float, there's sulphur gas in them and they're no good anymore.
If they sink though, even if they sort of bob upwards from the bottom but still are at the bottom, they're good.
You should absolutely not wash your chicken, it is unnecessary and can splash bacteria around. Cook it to 165 F and youre 100% safe from bacteria.
You want 150f for 3 min for white meat. 165 is unnecessary unless you flash cook it, and then put it in the fridge. 165 w8ll be tough and dry. https://blog.thermoworks.com/chicken-internal-temps-everything-you-need-to-know/
Dark meat will be at like 170 when it cooks for flavor so you don't need to worry if it is cooked through it will be safe.
Just make sure you test the coldest part of the chicken. For good measure, check a few areas, like breast, thighs, and drumsticks.
What kind of regarded shitfuckery is washing chicken? What u washing off the bacteria that will die by the time the chicken reaches a safe temperature? This just seems like a good way to spread salmonella all over ur sink with no advantage.
Yeah, I remember seeing some clip of some British science woman and whatever, washing chicken is not only fucking dumv, but a great way to spread bacteria
Yea, there was a short series a few years ago with a cute blonde (hey, she gets guys to watch).
She visited a lab and demonstrated very clearly why washing chicken is a bad idea.
And how much difference soap makes when washing your hands, especially after handling something like chicken.
She also covered a bunch of chemical uage from the Victorian era.
Wish I could remember the show name for you.
Yeah it potentially splashes salmonella round everywhere.
Don't you wash your sink?
Apparently washing your chicken was an old practice to "rinse the germs off". In reality it just sprays germs everywhere. I can't believe anyone thought it was a good idea.
I watched a cooking video a few years ago about cooking a whole chicken. In the video it was said "we're not going to wash the chicken". I thought just the idea of washing a chicken was strange, so I checked the comments. It was a trainwreck of people being freaked out and disgusted by how she didn't wash the chicken.
I had to search through several forums and articles afterwards to confirm that I wasn't insane, and that I hadn't lived my whole life with disgusting food habits. But the topic of washing a chicken before you cook it is a strangely divided subject.
Lots of people really do.
Losing taste is one thing, but it can actually be dangerous by spreading salmonella&friends.
Didn't watch the video, but I have a degree in this field. We were taught to always wash chicken, in a separate room. I was given an earful one time when I was working at the kindergarten kitchen when I forgot to wash chicken thoroughly.
Edit: I should notice, all my comments apply to a factory setting and business grade kitchens. Multiple people corrected me that cooking at home is different and you should not wash your chicken at home kitchen.
You'll have to be more specific about what "this field" is. Restaurant sanitation? Food safety? Chicken washing? Microbiology?
Whatever your degree, it's not the recommended practice.
https://ask.usda.gov/s/article/Should-I-wash-chicken-or-other-poultry-before-cooking.You render meat safe to eat by killing the bacteria with fire, commonly called "cooking it".
This is like finding out that there are Flat Earthers that actually believe and it’s not just a satirical joke.
I bring this up every so often but I remember flat earth being about questioning science and understanding how to think for yourself... That understanding the earth was round was such a simple thing to do just by really looking at the horizon... You could then question other science and try to see how it could be wrong... It was like a gateway into critical thinking or something...
But I never could find any reference to the old club that was started for it or find anything on the topic... I also haven't looked in a while and most of the information is just now about how these people are incorrect and also craziness
The only time I would ever wash a chicken is if I'm going to brine it in something. Otherwise it cooks just fine.
Not washing your chicken with vinegar gives it a dirty taste. Don't @ me.
Bro just discovered marinade, thinks it's "washing". My steaks taste better if I "wash" them with lemon juice
As a middle aged person who is generally healthy, I’ve never washed chicken. On a side note, we eat chicken weekly. I’ve not experienced diarrhea, or been really sick, or died post chicken eating. I could safely say 1/2 of the days of the year, at least, involve basic butcher parted out chicken, and it is delicious.
Washing a backyard/farm chicken post killing/plucking to remove blood and debris, sure. But what is the logic behind this strange internet trend?
You, like me, probably just cook the chicken properly.
I think it's just how boomers were raised. I'm middle-aged and I don't wash chicken, but my boomer mom is horrified at the thought. She came for a visit and made sure I washed the chicken before I cooked with it. 🙄
I had told my mom to go sit down and get out of my kitchen for less.
I've not met a single "boomer" that does this.
So weird, maybe it's just the ones I know. I'm probably stereotyping them!
My parents are boomers and don't do this. Not a big sample, but it's what I've got.
Just stick it in the dishwasher.
Right next to the cast iron pan! 😌
Wash it, it’s disgusting. Also clean off the gross white stuff and as much fat as you can. I leave the skin though.
If you bump up your hot water heater, it'll cook it there too.
By dishwasher they mean oven.
My mom has always made me "wash chicken," which would just be running it under water. Just chicken, nothing else.
I used to do it out of habit, but laziness seems to have worked in my favor this time.
Brine don’t wash
politics? earth shape? religion? nah, i like to argue about washing or not the chicken when preparing it
washing or not the chicken
taste like plain shit after
does homey not season his shit?
Does washing actually cause the fat to come off though?
I've had bloody chicken before which you do actually want to wash/clean off because cooked blood will completely destroy your dish.
Otherwise you can cut off some cartilage and hard fat that won't render when cooked. No need to wash it.
Nope. The slimy stuff that comes off when you wash chicken is not fat and the pink liquid is myoglobin, not blood. The reason not to wash chicken is that it potentially sprays salmonella all around your sink. Basically, there is no good reason to wash chicken, but it shouldn't affect the actual meat.
Chinese youtube chef recommends washing chicken to reduce the albumin levels and help tenderize, never tested it personally and I definitely don't wash meat
Does OP work in a mostly back workplace by chance?
Washing is to remove salmonella...wtf is wrong with you ppl????
If the salmonella is on the outside, shouldn't you cook the outside of the chicken?
Since you can kill the salmonella in eggs without cooking the egg (as in pasturised egg), then the temperature that kills salmonella seems low enough that any form of cooking will kill whatever salmonella is on the outside of the chicken.
Better wash them:
Eating chickens is the most common source of Salmonella poisoning. A 2014 issue of Consumer Reports published that 97 percent of chicken breasts found in retail stores were contaminated with bacteria that could make people sick, and 38 percent of the Salmonella found was resistant to multiple antibiotics. And, according to a national retail-meat survey by the Food and Drug Administration, about 90 percent of retail chicken showed evidence of contamination with fecal matter.
Better not wash them:
My source is the CD Fucking C.
Hostile response tone aside, seriously: cooking chicken kills the bacteria. Trying to wash it just splatters disease around your kitchen.
If only there was a better way to kill bacteria in food than just washing it.
Fucking lol!
Idk guys. I'm not scrubbing my chicken with bleach to kill bacteria. I just want to rinse off the shit from the factory. "Oh but they wash it!" I don't believe they care enough to do it well. Whatever regulation is set forth by the CDC is kind of irrelevant if there is little enforcement.
Are you eating it raw????
TIL American's don't cook their chicken
If you cook the chicken properly, salmonella isn't a concern.
Only meat I routinely wash is porkchops. Slimiest stuff on the market
not eaying animal products has made my life so much easier in that regard. no need to worry about all the pitentially dangerous stuff on and in dead animals, raised in disgusting conditions :3
You say that like vegetables can't get covered in dirt or pesticides
Plenty of vegetables get ecoli or similar as well. Washing your veggies is super important, with meat, just make sure it's cooked thoroughly.
And as if they don't literally grow in poop
Yeah, because you only eat cucumbers that have come from farms where forest nymphs cavort and gently brush away yucky bugs, rendering pesticides pointless The plants themselves are bathed in water from mountain springs far far away from Nestle and when it comes to be picked, it's done by moonlight and only by the purest of maidens who definitely aren't exploited.
You know the same problems can happen and do happen quite often with dead plants too, right?
E Coli? Listeria?
Cooking actually kills bacteria as opposed to eating raw foods.
Of all the things you shouldn't eat raw, flour is probably the worst offender
I love how you've just magically decided things based on no actual fact or logic lol
What kind of idiot doesn't wash their food after getting it from the store
So where I live, frozen chicken is cut on a wooden chopping board overlaid with pieces of the carton it came it. Without washing you'll end up with random bits of cardboard, wood, fish fins and possibly sand.
If your meat is visibly dirty then sure, go ahead and rinse it, don't be an idiot and eat wood. This conversation is people buying it from the grocery though.
makes chicken fish fins and sand in it
Are you the little mermaid?
Unda da sea!
This is reasonable time to wash your chicken and also likely where this habit comes from. Before the age of factory farming and the advent of reliable home refrigeration a lot of meat was improperly stored before and after selling.
Washing your produce was likely a good defense mechanism to wash away actual dirt, grime and bugs that may have adhered to it. Nowadays it's largely unnecessary unless you're still living in a place where butchering and processing techniques may not be of the greatest quality.
I never wash my meats, that would cast the external microbes around the kitchen. Instead, I blanch them in boiling water for a few minutes. It’s kinda like sous vide, but faster. It’s also fine if you forget it in the water for a bit, the meat will only get cleaner! Toss some broccoli into the water for full meal prep with minimal cleanup
What do you think happens to the microbes when you put the chicken in the pan or in the oven?
Do you also blanche your steaks?
You're saying doing that makes the meat cleaner but you're also sending broccoli in that dirty water?
All you're doing is taking the flavor out of your chicken and making a broth out of good meat, that's ridiculous!
(cough cough) Note their name - "gullible"
They got me too until I read their next comment. Haha
The microbes are dead because I blanched them for 5 minutes, like the internet said to do
Out of all the disturbing comments in this thread, this one gets to me the most, especially saying it's like a sous vide.
I love cooking my chicken in a sous vide, but you do it low and slow, 145 degrees for about 2 and a half hours.
Excellent article on it here: https://www.seriouseats.com/the-food-lab-complete-guide-to-sous-vide-chicken-breast
If you have one of these machines, I highly recommend trying it this way. Give it a quick sear in some cast iron after.
I tried sous vide baths but the ziplocks kept expanding and leaking, so I improvised. My son, trying to be helpful, kept spilling the warm hanger steak water on our dog, who didn’t mind at all but did manage to build a habit of tripping him on his way to the sink like a chihuahua-shaped guided trip cord. Even after she broke 3 of her legs in a botched attempt, looking like a potato on weighted stilts, the habit persisted. Then we moved on to blanching and my wife had to grind the handles off of our cast iron pot to prevent the kid from trying to move it. It was headache after compromise after headache, but my wife and I tolerated it for the perfect steaks. Just try to tell me they don’t look appetizing
