This is particularly American sensibility about not drinking alcohol casually around children. It's very strange. In the UK and Europe, if a kid is having a birthday party at their house it's completely normal for the adults to be having a casual beer or wine and socialising whilst the children play, obviously not drinking to get drunk and within the legal limits for the driver.
Honestly it's just pearl clutching. The same people are probably sneaking wine at their 8 year olds little league game in the bubba 64 oz trucker travel tankard.
Hiding it from kids obviously will prevent them from ever using it or being curious!
God forbid we have open and honest conversations with kids so they learn how to use things responsibly.
Given that alcohol is a hard drug with severe social and personal consequences when abused i find that sentiment a bit shortsighted. We rightfully don't accept casual consumption of cocaine or heroin around children. We shouldn't set the model that alcohol is just a casual thing to consume on any given afternoon.
Me and many friends as teenagers wen we got shitfaced in unhealthy and dangerous ways just laughed at our parents critizising us, because of how normalized their consumption was.
So between responsible consumption and casual consumption is a huge difference. Especially when there is small kids around, who might end up just drinking from the jar right in their reach.
It's strange here in the US too. I don't know anyone that has a problem with that. That kind of puritanical attitude about drinking is not the prevailing sentiment here. Sure, my friends and I aren't getting plastered at BBQ's like we did in college, but it's not like we aren't having some beers at a cookout just because half of us have kids now. It's just a vocal religious minority making a lot of noise. Don't get me wrong, this country does have a different, more uptight, relationship with alcohol than Europe, but it's not nearly as extreme as it may appear online and in media.
It does happen though. My wife's grandmother was an alcohol abolitionist. We're not talking the 1800s here, I'm not that old. She died in the 2000s. But she was super religious and was part of a temperance movement.
Anyway, once she died, the beer and wine started coming out at family gatherings and they have not turned into raucous affairs. The kids at the gatherings seem to be doing fine.
This is a very large country, and the culture (alcohol in particular) varies wildly by location.
They need to protect the children from alcohol and trans people because then they get shot at in schools.
Nah, my Catholic extended family always had a jug of Carlo Rossi (garbage wine sold in gallon jugs, for those lucky enough to be unfamiliar) at every family gathering. No one was ever worried about there being kids. Evangelicals are just lame.
Bro it's perfectly normal for Americans to do this too...
I swear, the Twitter snowflakes want to use the lamest of dunks to own the Libs. Then they fail to realize that they might do this themselves.
Aww, who am I kidding. Twitter shills don't engage in family functions, or have kids for that matter.
Also Mexicans drink around their kids during social events all the time. It's a joke in my family that the only reason adults put on parties for their kids is so they can drink with their friends.
Where I live you can be absolutely sure the adults are getting drunk
This is a generalization. Lots of American families of all backgrounds can have alcohol during family meals and social time.
People have drinks at birthday parties. At dinners. All of the above.
Unwinding after a shit week with a bottle of beer or glass of wine in the evening, with the extended family over for a meal, while kids play games. Tens of millions of Americans are doing this right now.
I don’t want to live in the America where that isn’t normal. That shit is wholesome.
I don’t want to live in the America where that isn’t normal.
Bad news! Vice squads are coming, no more fun for you!
This is particularly American sensibility about not drinking alcohol casually around children
Shockingly this will vary by family. Some families take their kids bar hopping while they drink to excess, some drink casually and not in excess, and some are sober around their kids, and some remain sober all the time. My wife grew up hanging out in bars with her parents biker friends and their kids. She learned to watch some of them and save the good homemade wine when someone was about to topple. I grew up with parents who would have a single drink with dinner one to two times a week and would avoid getting drunk (at least that I know of).
Personally, as a parent and living in an area with a strong alcohol culture and with alcoholic family members, I drink very rarely (the alcoholic family members really kill my desire to drink), and when I do I make sure we have more than enough adults available to parent and drive if needed. I also am very much a lightweight so there is no drinking without getting noticeably giggly and sloppy. My wife feels and acts similarly but is not a lightweight and can realistically drink one drink and be visibly unaffected.
I honestly think the OP is less about the presence of alcohol around children but more just calling out a wine mom as such
As an American, I don't know that I really see this too much. For Halloween, it's not uncommon for some houses to give those little shooters to parents. Obviously it's not good to get sloshed at a kid's birthday party, but I don't think too many people put too much weight on a drink or too. Either that, or I don't put much weight on it, because I'll have a social beer at noon on a weekday if it feels right.
I was born and raised in the states and I've never experienced this. There's usually beer or wine for the adults who want it at every gathering. The one exception is maybe baptisms but only because the reception is usually in the church hall. Maybe it's a southern thing? I've never been to the south and they do have some weirdly puritan social beliefs.
Yeah, I've seen it in the south and in Utah, both very religious, very odd areas.
My brother and others in the family will 100% get drunk around the kids. Nobody is giving kids alcohol nor drunk driving (we have family parties at the family vineyard usually so nobody is driving away)
My wife's family will 100% get drunk around their kids, and drunk drive with the kids in the car. Seeing that first hand makes us really reluctant to drink at all.
Nobody is giving kids alcohol
When I was a kid I always asked for a taste when my parents had a drink with the meal. It was just a sip and I never liked it and it burned (it was usually a hard spirit), but I still asked every time.
When my wife was 5 she was being sent to the still to do a taste check and see if the brandy is strong enough yet.
So many people trying to say it is normal in the US, but it is the US the one with the rule of having a paper bag to cover alcohol anywhere public. Sure at home it might also be more normal but that is already indicative of a certain point of view which I'm guessing is what OP was talking about.
I don't know anyone in the US who feels this way.
Was always normal in my family. Smoking and drinking indoors all day. Used to come home smelling like shit. But there were alcoholics. Good people, though.
That is the way we had birthday parties too, and they are the best. Invite the whole family not just the kid. Nobody HAS to drink, and I didn't because hosting, but it's more hospitable to have adult beverages available. Often a "fancy drinks" area for the kids too, with colorful non alcoholic drinks and garnishes for them to create their own drinks.
So, so much better than a house full of kids all the same age. Kids running around in packs, adults chilling.
I come from Germany and drinking around children is normal here, and it's legal for children to start drinking at 14 years old.
However, just because it's considered normal doesn't mean it's a good thing, alcohol gets played down way too much in our society, it's one of the most dangerous and addictive drugs on the planet
UK and Europe
You do realize the UK is part of Europe, right?
The britisch Isles are part of Europe.
Let's have a trigger warning on that, please.
Cries in Brexit
The britisch Isles are part of Europe.
Not for the lack of trying!
Brits often refer to them like this. It's a bit like a Californian saying "California and the USA" - it's just a perspective thing. We know we're part of the continent of Europe.
Who leaves their wine glass on the floor next to excited kids? You’re almost guaranteed to be wiping up that puddle in ten minutes
This is the true crime in that photo.
I use similar glasses, and there are better odds that there would be apple juice in that glass than white wine. If so, it could even be the kids. I understand people fear kids around glass, but if the kids around it often, they probably don't flail
I had people place some terrible limo mixed alcohol on a buffet table, with kids around. I had to explain to him, that it looking like something for kids, while having some 30% or so, is a very very bad idea.
almost makes me think that the kids in the photo are fake
Its also a glass of wine, not a jager bomb.
You're clearly drinking wine wrong!
I bet it didn't even come in a box
That moment when I question what swapping the sweet and sour mix with Moscato in a green tea shot would be like
People also drink coffee while driving. It’s a depraved world out there.
Omg one time I was in line at a Subway (food) this dude started small talking about how it sucks because he's so hungry and he has to wait until he gets home to eat. I say, "why not just eat half while you drive?" he says, "what are you crazy?! You can't eat while you drive! You will crash!" and went on this tangent about not being able to eat or drink anything because you're driving.
Thanks for unleashing this random ass memory.
Random ass-memory; donkey walks past and remembers something random.
In my state they ended up passing a distracted driving law that includes eating while driving. It's a secondary enforcement law (they can't pull you over for it).
If you run a red light while eating a hamburger, you'll get the primary fine (running the red light) plus another $100 fine for distracted driving.
Why? because for some people taking a drink or a bite of a burger will make them crash. This is especially true in urban areas with a ton of things a driver needs to be aware of and react to.
Eating a sandwich and drinking a coffee while driving are dramatically different. A coffee sip takes a second, you can almost certainly keep your eyes on the road the whole time, and you can easily put it down in a cupholder, freeing your second hand. A sandwich involves 4 layers of wrapping, possible sauce drippings, and a different surface to each bite that requires you to look. I've read studies that found that actively eating is as risky as being drunk behind the wheel.
Saw someone making a sandwich once in stop-start traffic, cutting board resting against the (airbag) steering wheel and using a knife. Didn't hear about them on the news that evening so can only assume Darwin missed it.
Saw a guy eating Chinese from a takeaway carton with chopsticks while driving over a bridge once. It was mildly terrifying. Carton in one hand, chopsticks in the other.
That one is actually bad.
one candidate must be perfectly immaculate and nit-picked on the smallest detail while the other can do and say what the fuck he wants
She drinks wine while playing with her niece. He steals from cancer patients. It all evens out. /s
She's having a glass of wine, not getting shit faced. What the fuck is this tweet?
She's black, it's Obamas suit all over again
And mustard, and arugula, and inconveniently timed salute, and, and, and, and...
Spent a similar amount of time on this shit as him destroying Libya because they actually went to not accepting the petro-dollar for their oil. As soon as he was out though, that faded away and became a call back when they were running out of other BS. Further rhetoric, communique, etc showed that was actually what they would have done, but, ya, democrat did it. 🤷♂️
People who's politics are their whole identity and just looking to dunk on "the enemy"
Dunk on drunk crime
How can you conclude either from that one photo?
Only psychopaths drink wine while playing games with kids. Normal people drink vodka with light ice in that scenario.
This is so irresponsible. I only smoke weed when playing with my kids.
I blow the bong hit in their face. THIS IS A WINNERS HOUSEHOLD
You hear that coughing you're making son? THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE A FUCKING PUSSY.
I'm only the fun adult when I've had alcohol As in fun enough to play a game with a child and pretend it is a good time.
....And bitch like Republicans aren't the class of alcohol abuse..
The only thing weird with this photo is putting a glass of
wineanything on the floor next to kids playing games. That glass will either be spilled or broken.Yeah, this is wildly inappropriate. When I play board games with my kids, I find Old Fashioneds are the ideal way to deliver that numbing hit of booze. Wine requires too much fluid volume per unit alcohol, and the red varietals can stain your games.
Finland's former PM Sanna Marin was accused of taking drugs during a party...
Accused, but if I remember correctly it didn't go further than that. And she was by far one of the best PMs I've seen working in many countries.
ITT: people who apparently despise spending time with their kids so much, that they need to drink to enjoy it.
like WTF people...it's not an issue to have a glass of wine (or whatever) while spending time with your kids. But it's a fucking problem that you don't enjoy it without it.
ITT: people who apparently despise spending time with their kids so much, that they need to drink to enjoy it.
ITT: someone making shit up and pretending it's happening ITT.
Yeah but wine helps lol
Alcohol is a crutch.
You will need to pop xan and pump a line up your snots to enjoy babysitting my nieces
Have you been around children?
Have you? Because this attitude is something I only see from people that either don't have kids or spend any significant amount of time interacting with children in their spare time.
And to answer your question, I have two kids of my own, neither of them require me to drink alcohol to enjoy their company.
The outrage should clearly be THAT SHE ISN'T USING A COASTER IT A TRAY AND THAT CHILD COULD EASILY KNOCK OVER THE WINE
Wonder how they'd feel about Bill Mahr getting smashed while sexually harassing children.
Californian here. I used to do birthday parties as a clown or costume character, the parents were almost invariably drunk. Often incredibly so.
How the fuck you know that is not a glass of piss? Red circle motherfucker...
Clearly they know nothing about kids or they have normal kids who aren't ADHD
No one is going to comment on the name? Lol
raises hand
Just give the kids apple juice instead of wine and then they can play too
Wine is acceptable, but only after you punched them, disavowed their identity, intentionally withheld education from them, made them carry their teenage pregnancy to term and ruined the planet for them. Then you can have wine. Be more republican!
Isn't that a picture of kamala?
ichigo what
The same kind of person who shares this as if it's some sort of condemnation see absolutely no problem sitting on the couch, pounding down 15 beers a night, and scream at their wife and kids
I remember a friend's first child's birthday.
Me and the mom killed a pony keg because no one else had the balls too.
I'm about that friend's age now..... man, she went hard. Gonna miss her. I couldn't keep up now.
Edit: She's alive and well, married with a gaggle of kids, we grew apart. Just miss those late summer nights where the only place we had to be was a shit retail job, and we could get stoned for that.
Stemware with a jersey? OMG the shame.
I have a drinking problem? Fuck you, Peck! You're a Mormon! Next to you, we all have a drinking problem!
Playing with children can be pretty exhausting. My daughter loved her Lego pirate ship set and had me narrating the lives of ten swashbuckling sailors on the high seas every day. I needed to be on top form or she would catch my day to day continuity errors 😅
WE'RE NOT GOING BACK!!!
Get out and vote, people! Let's not wake up a few months from now and find we've re-elected Donald Trump.
You're a bit late...
What the fuck is going on with the defenders of Camilla
Because she seems less like an asshole in a cheap suit?
