Following the shooting of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, multiple major health insurance companies have taken their executive leadership pages offline.
UHC, Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield, Caresource and more are removing or redirecting their about us pages.
If you're worried that your CEO will be murdered, that might be an indicator that you have some deep problems as a company. If you're all worried, that may be an indicator that your entire industry is a problem.
Isn't this the plot of Deus Ex: Human Revolution? Been years so maybe I'm forgetting... But I remember the main media/propaganda ending up being run by an AI...
Good thing someone who can plan their attack and track their target for days or weeks, someone with absolutely nothing to lose and a single-minded purpose, would absolutely give up on their plans if they can't find a public picture of a company's CEO on the first page they check.
Holy shit is LinkedIn a terrifying source for osint. Even without sales navigator it's a gold mine, and with it you can find just about anything about anyone on there.
They shouldnât let this become common. Hiding who
Runs the company just makes them even MORE faceless and disconnected from humanity. Maybe focus on not shafting literally the entire population for money and shit coverage.
I would expect only the wrong lessons will be learnt. But I already saw a headline about another insurance company reverting some stupid policy, so maybe correct ones will be learnt, too.
Not worth my time to check who it was (I think BCBS), but they were going to deny the totality of the anesthesia line item for a surgery if the allotted time (and therefore the expected amount of anesthesia used) exceeded the original estimate.
The two could be combined. Any shooting of three or more executives would be a mass shooting of executives. By a mysterious masked man that no one can identify.
I watched a documentary on oil execs a while ago (can't remember the name, sorry :( ). Someone asked an exec why he wasn't giving 50 of the 60 billion dollars he owned to charity or government programs and he literally said "but how am I going to feed my family" without a shred of irony.
You were being funny, but the billionaire class actually believes this.
Yeah because somebody as motivated as the shooter in Manhattan will totally be deterred by removing the "Our Team" pages from your website.
Talk about focusing on the wrong thing. How about instead of worrying about how to hide the names of your executives you instead have a meeting where you decide to be an ethical company that balances the needs of the shareholder with the needs of your customers.
No, but I imagine it might make them easier to catch. If they have to go digging to find a person's name rather than just going to the company's website.
Right, but I imagine if you limit the sources to find this info, you make it easier to track down people who may have searched for it prior to an incident like this.
Yeah, but there are some problems with LinkedIn: content can be edited, profiles can be hibernated or deleted, not to mention the need of being logged in with a LinkedIn account in order to visit a profile (something that will be snitched to the profile being visited, especially if such profile pays for LinkedIn Premium, they get to see everyone who visited them).
Deletion and edition are improbable (although not impossible) to happen on Wayback Machine and Archive Today (and anybody can visit the archive, no account is needed).
I used to think that way. Indeed, one of my favorite quotes is from D&D, where an Arcanaloth, a being who is literally the physical manifestation of neutral evil, says "My friend, do you truly believe we consider ourselves evil? No, we seek only good. It's just that our definitions don't quite match."
But more and more in the real world I have come to believe these people know that what they are doing is wrong...and they don't care.
I initially was thinking that people were just aggressive about him, because of the insurance companies and not necessarily what he did, especially since he was CEO for 3 years, but looks like UH had rejections in single digit and after he took over they jumped to over 20%
I understand the outrage though. While some rejections could be people asking for things that are not necessary, for example Ozempic if one doesn't have diabetes, many of those affect quality of life for millions of people and even affect of they can live or die.
It is absolutely horrible and unethical to make money on misfortune of others.
Somebody in another thread yesterday pointed out how those stats are also after appeals are accounted for. So it's not all the stuff they denied, but the stuff that they denied again after doctors and patients went through the appeal process. They had worked in appeals at another health insurance company, and said that the only way you could see denial rates that high were if UHC were denying almost everything that wasn't a standard checkup like an annual physical.
Also certain psych meds can cause weight gain that is incredibly hard to lose if the person needs to stay on it to remain stable.
I can see ozempic helping those folks, especially since meds like abilify can increase the risk of developing diabetes. It's a shitty side effect, one that doctors seem to shrug off, but it really matters to the patients and it often really bothers them.
It is absolutely horrible and unethical to make money on misfortune of others.
Itâs not just making money on the misfortune of others; itâs active and intentional cruelty on the most vulnerable people who are the least able to fight back. Itâs active choices that hurt these people, bankrupt them, or send them to their deaths, all for maximizing profits.
Itâs cruel, itâs inhumane, itâs vile, and ALL the US health insurance companies do it. They are all guilty of these crimes against humanity.
Guilty all of them. They know and now they fear it. It wont change the shit they do in any decent way. Those narcs are already forming a new world view to make them martyrs.
I don't get the fuss about it. Guy went voting ... he had no paper vote against what fucked him, his loved ones, and millions of fellow Americans over, so he used a high velocity lead vote. Still, just democracy at work.
Well--well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?
The irony is that if a lot of corpos start doing this, it makes a cult of personality impossible. In the case of UC it probably doesn't apply anywhere, but it will elsewhere.
That will fix it. Don't need to be doing your job and covering medical expenses or anything. Just make a change to the website and it will all be good.
Can someone with more knowledge of the industry explain why hits even legal that an insurance company gets to decide whether it pays claims or not? Shouldn't a third independent party decide?
Insurance IS the third party. From an idealist perspective, insurance is supposed to be negotiating rates with doctors (independent contractors) to try to set a baseline for services and negotiate on your behalf to make sure a doctor isn't charging 10k to apply a bandage.
Eventually insurance companies found out they were holding both the patient approval and writing the policy and started lobbying until they became monster they are today. Now both patients and doctors hate they have embedded themselves in the process siphoning money.