Gus Walz won over the internet wearing his heart on his sleeve at the DNC. But the bullying that followed is what kids experience every day, some say.
A tearful, unscripted moment between Tim Walz and his 17-year-old son, Gus, has unleashed a flood of praise and admiration – but also prompted ugly online bullying.
Gus Walz, who has a nonverbal learning disorder as well as anxiety and ADHD, watched excitedly from the front row of Chicago’s United Center and sobbed openly Wednesday night as his father, the Democratic nominee for vice president, delivered his acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention.
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Conservative columnist and right-wing provocateur Ann Coulter mocked the teenager’s tears. “Talk about weird,” she wrote on X. The message has since been deleted.
Mike Crispi, a Trump supporter and podcaster from New Jersey, mocked Walz’s “stupid crying son” on X and added, “You raised your kid to be a puffy beta male. Congrats.”
Alec Lace, a Trump supporter who hosts a podcast about fatherhood, took his own swipe at the teenager: “Get that kid a tampon already,” he wrote, an apparent reference to a Minnesota state law that Walz signed as governor in that required schools to provide free menstrual supplies to students.
You're telling me the gutter of humanity couldn't lift themselves out of the slime of division, hate, and bigotry to see a son who loves his father vibing and letting the love go in a great moment of high emotions?
I like how the one lady tried to flip the "weird" label onto it and failed so spectacularly she had to delete it because it turns out normal people don't think it's weird for guys to cry or to love your parents.
Yeah, how is this a headline? Bullies continue to bully. These are not swing voters, I don't want to think about them anymore. I hate how much of Kamala's speech I spent veering from sobbing joy to wondering how the right is going to snippet the moment.
That fucking boy, the reflection on that loving father and mother, instilled in me once again, a feeling that society is progressing, the way I felt from 07 to 16. He cracked the broken frozen part of my heart right open.
I want this fucking maga Nazi bullshit to go away so we can get back on track to loving one another more openly and inventing cool future shit to stop climate change. Not giving my taxes to babies who want to play with my infrastructure like it's their toys.
There are honestly few things in this world more weird than the idea of mocking pure expressions of love.
These people have lost their humanity, and are drowning in their own "alpha culture" cruelty. To make things even more weird, the "alpha" they follow is an amoral, senile man with a low IQ and a propensity to wear diapers in public.
Some of us are old enough to remember John Boehner before he showed everyone that he stands for nothing and became a pro-cannabis lobbyist after retiring from his position as the GOP Speaker of the House of Representatives (fucking scumbag. Put people in prison for decades because of it while you have the power to change that, and then immediately becoming a lobbyist for cause when you lose that power.
Dude used to cry all the fucking time. It was like his trademark.
My god the media is rubbish, "Trump came under fire in 2015 after he appeared to mock a New York Times reporter with a disability". Like, are you kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me? Appeared my ass, he did mock a man with a disability, it isn't a debate, or a perception, or the appearance, he did that shit.
Pretty sure media writes that way to be lawsuit proof. Everything is allegedly, supposedly, reportedly, according to sources, and so forth. Only things a court of law has confirmed are safe to report as facts.
Though I of course agree it is ridiculous as you suggest. There is video evidence of trump doing it, they might as well call it as it is. Attacking a young neurodivergent man for loving his dad is also despicable.
That Infowars fuckstick Alex Jones allegedly lost a lawsuit that he allegedly called Sandy Hook victims crisis actors and also allegedly claimed there were no dead kids which allegedly lead to the harassment of the grieving parents by his alleged followers. Allegedly he still has most of not all his assets and is allegedly going to flee the country, allegedly.
No. They are purely both-sidesing. They'd get mroe clicks and wins in a lawsuit that 100Million-under Trump and they don't care. They would never disparage trump directly without also disparaging whoever his opponent is.
It shouldn't matter whether he is LD. No one should be bullied.
Research shows that bullying behavior often stems from a combination of factors such as a desire for social dominance, a lack of empathy, or modeling of aggressive behaviors at home, said Kristen Eccleston, a former special education teacher and advocate for children with social-emotional needs.
You emphasized lack of empathy, but I think we also need to focus on "a desire for social dominance" because it describes exactly what these fascists have planned for America.
It absolutely matters. It's like the difference between hitting someone who's weaker than you, and hitting someone in a wheelchair. When you're bullying, you're punching down. When your victim is an even more vulnerable member of society (disabled, poor, elderly, neurodivergent, etc), you're punching way down and are a piece of shit.
It shouldn’t even matter. The kid should be allowed to express his emotions without being mocked for it. Even if he didn’t have any disability, he behaved perfectly fine. Most folks actually found it touching. While it is cruel to mock someone with a disability, I also don’t want the disability to become a way for the media to “justify” his way of expressing himself. There is no need to justify it at all.
How the fuck it's related to his disability or anything?
Imagine your father, like a not deadbeat one, a caring one, having his once-in-the-life moment at the state-wide convention. It's not weird to cry. It's weird not to.
Men do cry, men do have emotions, men aren't a fuel for a vehicle you hop on. And men are well capable of anger. The anger against a fucko who laughs at other man's kid.
Men cry, and cowards hide their emotions out of shame. Let it out wherever you are and fuck everyone else. I don't trust anybody who doesn't occasionally cry. That's sociopath behavior.
The last time I cried was last night watching a video about the LOFTID inflatable heat shield. Tears of joy for the team and for seeing something that's only been in KSP actually become realized. It felt so cool I cried.
I'm more irritated that so many people use his disability as an "excuse." If he were the most average, neurotypical boy in the world, it would still be perfectly normal and acceptable to get excited and emotional about his father potentially being the next vice president.
I get what you’re saying, but I find comparisons like this - although founded in fairness- to be ultimately unhelpful because they draw consideration away from what did happen: bullying and otherism. This isn’t about what might have been, it’s about what happened. And we can say how it would have been unacceptable under this or that circumstance, but that, I feel, detracts from us all uniting behind saying that THIS, under THESE circumstances was wrong.
I’m not trying to criticize you at all, your intentions are good here. I just don’t think that we should lose focus of criticizing the bullies for the reason why they were bullying in the first place. They were bullying this kid because he is different. Because he is an other. If he wasn’t, they probably would not have, or they would not have attacked his otherness.
Repubs are bullying this kid for being proud of his father because they've never experienced it themselves. In either direction. They are weak and pathetic losers.
I feel like that's not the win they think it is. A young man is passionate and loves his father dearly, and has been raised in a loving environment that allows him to express himself openly. The cum cups and diapers are fine, but genuine emotion?: "Weird."
Oh man you should have seen my ex the first time I cried after she admitted she cheated on me the first time.
She was so angry that I was crying she started stammering and yelling that it was my fault, etc. it actually stopped me from crying because I thought it was so funny she said that.
But I didn't learn my lesson and the whole thing repeated 4 years later and it again was all my fault. That time I learned my lesson, it wasn't that I wasnt allowed to cry, that's fine. It's that I wasn't allowed to have emotions.
I am not surprised that conservatives find open signs of affection, and the general feelings and expression of love between a child and father, to be "weird".
These comments come from people whose kids hate and/or resent them. Love, in general, is seen by them as weakness. These people need therapy, they are mentally ill.
So I was curious and looked to see what percentage of conservative men seek therapy, and while I didn't get a number, I came across this interview with a conservative therapist.
At least according to the article, 90% of therapists have liberal values, which in my personal experience makes sense. But the problem is that it makes it difficult for conservatives to find a therapist that they can feel safe expressing their political views, but of course with therapy so frowned upon in conservative circles and they use the church for counsel (not counseling), it's tough for a conservative therapist to get work. It's a bit of a catch 22.
The therapist in the interview has so many stomach turning comments that personally I would not touch her with a 10 foot stick, but the point I do sympathize with is that therapy should be accessible to everyone, no matter your religious or political beliefs.
I think this really hits with the "I go to therapy because of people who don't go to therapy", but that article gave me a perspective of "oh, the people who don't go to therapy usually don't have a therapist they could go to to meet them at their level."
The problem is when you start getting into what a therapist is actually meant to do. A therapist isn't meant to just be someone you go talk to for an hour, they're meant to help you really work on your mental health. For a lot of these conservative men, the issue is their worldview. In order to help heal them and get these men what they would deserve out of therapy, you would need to show them how their negative worldview is built upon a mountain of lies, and get them to let go of their irrational hate. A therapist that buys into and feeds their worldview is just an enabler that would be effectively scamming conservatives.
Yeah, of "normal" family values. To a rep dipshit, this kid is obviously not "normal" and I'll bet an arm that there's already been an idiot or hundred that asked if the kid is vaccinated.
It's the best years of their lives. They got to bully people and teachers didn't punish them... it went downhill from there. Not all of course, but the bully types, most likely.
I mean, Republicans are usually deep in the throes of toxic masculinity these days, so as shitty as it is that they’re responding this way, it’s not surprising.
They're so used to their own children either hating them or having complete indifference towards them that they think that's the norm.
They're psychologically abusing children from behind their keyboards and phones, for fucking nothing. Like, it does them no favours, but they just can't help themselves.
We should be compiling lists of such people and their bullying tweets, and sending them to anyone who advertises with them or employs them. This shit needs to stop.
Oh hey look, the new ann coulter proposal video just droppe... And, he called it off.
Just think of the fucking human sludge it would take to propose to ann coulter in the first place, and then realize that those dudes STILL couldn't go through with it. They got one full whiff and said, "LOOK lady... I literally pay millions of dollars to hunt human children for fun in Luxembourg, I have a Michelin chef flown in to prepare their livers for me for dinner... but YOU are just a god damn irredeemable monster... I can't go through with this..."
Let them get all this alpha/beta male crap out if they want to. Nothing says "weird" better than applying to people what was initially intended (and is now widely rejected) as a description of social dynamics among canines.
It broke X, can't tell if on purpose or some weird algorithm thing. I clicked on trending topics and Hunter Biden was trending but only 1 in 3 of the tweets under that trending topic mentioned Hunter, and all of them were about Gus.
Then the same thing for Barron Trump, and Kyle Rittenhouse. A series of young men became trending topics but all of the tweets were about Gus. Just odd.
Obviously some of it was people comparing Gus to the other guys but a majority were just straight up about Gus and no one else.
Wow Republicans are weird. I was watching that and could only think what a beautiful moment it was. It was touching how incredibly proud Gus is of his dad, which suggests to me that they've probably got a pretty healthy family.
The fucking hell is wrong with these people‽ Get that boy a hug from his dad, he seems like he’s had a ton but he could’ve used another. That’s a seriously loving father son relationship, one I think a lot of us people who had shitty dads see with a lot of respect.
It's a public event. The occurrence was blasted by the DNC. The son is open to praise or criticism just like anyone else. The rules didn't change just because he is the potential VP's son. Either you believe in equal treatment or preferential treatment?
Left or Right, anyone who can cry on cue to a speech they've likely rehearsed a hundred times in their head, isn't worth paying attention to. Unpopular I know.
For example, I adore John Stewart and agree with almost everything he does, except when he made that emotional impassioned tearful speech a few years back, never once mucking his lines.
Its just a trust thing. Tears sway people, and if its in the moment and captured ad-hoc then I am likely moved, but if all lenses are on it and the speech sounds forced, I switch off.
I don't think I understand. Are you suggesting that it's impossible to prepare a speech about something you care deeply about?
Or are you saying that people only cry the first time they tell an emotional story?
I'm sure there are people with those experiences, and maybe you're one of them. If it helps, I can attest that there are "well rehearsed" stories that I've told dozens of times, and I still cry during each telling.
To me, if you care deeply about a topic, then you should be able to communicate that by merit of your expertise in it and not by how emotionally invested you are in it.
Or to put it another way: if crying is literally part of the story, then maybe don't tell the story when the cameras are rolling, unless of course the story was less about the speech and more about the emotion.
Let's just take emotions out of politics. It educates absolutely nobody, and the only people won to your side are won by the depth of your professed emotion and not by the validity of your words.