‘Our nurses, teachers, firefighters, librarians ... are not, as the world’s richest man implies, genocidal murderers,’ fires back angry union president
Hitler's expansionism killed millions. Just like a cancer disease that doesn't know when to stop growing, it eventually became a lethal threat to the world and had to be surgically removed. It's good that they lost the war.
Why so many people are cheerfully cheering for burning teslas owned by random people when it seems it would be easier to burn this fucking nazi asshole? Just get rid of the source of the problem...
burning teslas owned by random people when it seems it would be easier to burn this fucking nazi asshole?
Because simply in practical terms, it's the other way around. There's a Tesla right next door, but only one Musk somewhere, probably not where you are. And mostly, one has personal bodyguards, while the others just sit on the road.
Really? Ah wow, never thought it would be that hard... That's sarcasm by the way, since we are stating the obvious. Also you forgot to mention, one does nothing against FElon and the other ends FElon.
I anyway hate the idea of inciting violence (but sometimes you just need to get it out) and can't really wrap my head at how many people are in comments in Lemmy out for blood (well, I kind of understand, the situation is bleak to say the least, the issue is how many think violence is a good solution for real, there's a discussion for violent revolution, but violence alone is useless, but I digress), I'd rather he rots in a cell somewhere and all his money is taken away to do something useful with, he'd probably hate that much more than anything else. Same with Amazon Dickzos... Well that's lame, couldn't come up with a good name for him yet. Bezos anyway.
But anyway, if the first lady trump is still free and worse, in a position of power in the government, after all he has done (literal treason, rape, ...), I'm not holding my breath for the nazi asshole to get to prison.
Non permanent stuff is cool to me, like notes suggesting you sell the car. Actual vandalism though isn't cool, they didn't know (hopefully) that Musk was going off the deep end when they bought the car.
He also is famous for loving to post 14 flags under his posts. 14 is a white supremacist number called 14 words. He's 100% a Nazi and he does not hide it one bit.
Unlike Twitter and Reddit, we actually give a fuck about free speech. You can even say "I want to rip out Elon Musk's spine and wipe my ass with it in Mortal Kombat 1" if you want.
Jesus fuck already. Why can't this fuck hole skip to the bullet-temple, doused-in-accelerant, ignited-in-a-ditch phase of his life. He's so fucking thirsty for it.
Last I checked, being the man who oversees a genocide does not make you innocent. In fact, it makes you just as bad, if not worse, than the people following orders.
I'd say worse. In the least, people carrying out orders might be doing so out of fear for their own life. It doesn't excuse it, but on the scale I'd say that's much better than putting people in a position to kill or be killed.
By reliable accounts some of Hitler's last words were him expressing that while sad he didn't really improve anything for Germany, at least he killed millions of Jews. Hitler wanted the credit.
That would be perfect. And I want it to be an accidental one, not that mind the idea of him being murdered. It would just so much more funny if he died due to the shear incompetance of his company. Or if a piece of a space X rocket fell on him lol
As much as "I was just following orders" is not enough to excuse someone of their responsibility in atrocities, "I was just issuing orders" will not excuse anyone either.
Anyone who thinks that just because someone didn't pull the trigger, that means they're not guilty, you can get your ass back in line to lick elons boots.
This is in the same vein as "Hitler did some good things" kind of cognitive dissonance. While the statement may not be wholly false, the fact that anyone could overlook everything he did that was bad, to find some small piece of something he did that can be construed as "good" is simply trying to put an objectively evil person into a better light, when they do not deserve it.
There are plenty of misunderstood people in history that did very good things, and were killed/maimed/murdered/imprisoned/tarred/feathered/whatever, because they did something that the wrong people saw as bad.
Nobody should ever try to find a shining light of good deep down in the black abyss of Hitler's life.
Reminds me of a Brazilian advert for a magazine in the 90s. It started with some large black and white dots, slowly zooming out, and the narration went something like:
"This man was an artist. When he took power, his country was in a deep economic recession, but he brought prosperity back and made it home to some of the most important industrial companies still functioning today. To this day, many people look up to him. This man... (zoom out finishes) was Adolf Hitler.
FWIW I do think this is genuinely an entirely false statement. Usually, Hitler apologists will say either 1) Hitler rebuilt Germany's military, or 2) Hitler rebuilt Germany's economy, but neither thing is really true. Germany's military was largely rebuilt before Hitler's ascension in national politics - ironically enough, with the generous assistance of the Soviet Union. And Hitler didn't rebuild Germany's economy at all, he just ran things off of borrowed money and then did his level best to exterminate the people who had loaned it to him.
And not only did Hitler not do anything good, he ruined that fucking mustache for everybody for all time.
I would verify your story, but killing fucking Nazi's isn't a crime anyway. If TFB somehow isn't a Nazi, then he's perhaps just all of history's stupidest man.
Elmo is a chinless, balding and dickless wonder boy. (Dickless because he had failed penis vanity surgery which broke his penis. That's why all his kids are IVF). I truly wonder where and how he got the idea his genes must be propagated.
Intellectually, he is also defective....
I feel like absent Hitler, they would not have self organized to put people in ovens. Whereas the workers would still have gone out and produced wealth (for another capitalist).
For a while I was holding on to sanity thinking "he's an idiot and he's just drawing attention to himself." But now, to anyone that was still thinking "maybe he really is that clumsy, maybe he didn't really mean it", this is it. If you're not getting it now you never will. He's literally, in the literal sense of literally, a Nazi.
I've known a number of people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. They're often quite kind-hearted, loving people. Musk is not. You don't need to insult them twice by comparing Musk to them, and using hateful terminology while you do it.
Maybe call Musk an asshole, a nazi, a shitass fucking fleck of rotten cumstain stuck to Trump's taint instead.
This sort of argument both minimises his accountability for his actions by blaming factors outside his control, and is incredibly insulting to the millions of people with actual mental disabilities who manage not to be racist assholes.
I can't stand him. Interesting that's the word you've used cos in Britain it's considered ableist. Can I interest you in the word "wanker" instead? It rolls off the tongue nicely.
He really wants to see what happens to Tesla when it drops below that magic number where they are going to want some REAL money for Twitter. Not fake made up money... Not the Saudis money who really paid the capitol for pathetic little muskrat .... Real money he claimed he had in Tesla stock but never did because the points are made up and the numbers mean morning. Over valued bullshit stock ..
Not really relevant to the POS Musk, but: it is interesting how few people were actually involved in murdering such a massive number of victims. The Treblinka death camp by itself, for example, was operated for 18 months by a staff that consisted at any one time of around 25 German officers and soldiers and around 100 local workers. Using only a salvaged diesel engine from a Soviet tank, they murdered approximately 900,000 people. Had German defeated the Soviet Union, they could certainly have exterminated the entire country had they so chosen (though the long-term plan was geared more towards enslavement).
At this point I'm thinking the only thing that's going to restore our image on the world stage is if we go full Londo when the Vorlons were moving in on Centauri Prime.
To be fair, records show that this wretch emerged from some sulphurous stinking hole that appeared in South Africa somewhere, so surely some of our friends there might know the incantation to send him back?
"Mr. Musk, you recently shared a post that mentioned the workers were the ones who killed people and not Hitler without elaboration. Do you believe that Hitler bears no responsibility?"
These CEOs always claim they can't do good for workers, because they need to please the shareholders. So now that the CEO of Tesla is sinking the company, where are these supposed all powerful merciless shareholders at? If I was a shareholder of Tesla I'd demand felon's head for doing all this damn to my investment.
To be fair, there is a derivative law suit still working and it’s around the excessive bonus they granted musk and then retracted and then re-granted atter reincorporating TESLA in Texas. I’m pretty sure I have this right
I have read that many who would be able to bring suit are in Musk’s pocket. Like his brother, for example.
I really would love to see some derivative suits going though.
And now Musk has parlayed it, and his various pyramid scheme-like companies into replacing as much of the US government as he can get away with with his junk.
There's got to be tons of lawsuits right? Like all the people that have been fired and tons of people being affected negatively by musk probably have class action lawsuits and stuff?
I'm sure some will arise from this, and like most times they'll settle instead of taking their target down. Yes it's expensive and time consuming, as always it'll be worth it if you take your time and do things the right way.
Like most things, normal people have no real say in the matter. The large shareholders publicly saying things and selling off stock would lower their value and hurt them. Last year the CA teacher pension fund did say they met with Tesla to voice concerns. So it does happen.
It’s been known for years the stock was way overvalued. But making money overruled any sort of sound advice. Not that they are losing money, more people will say things.
Probably irrelevant, but if you were to make an omelette, it would be nearly impossible not to break a few eggs. I struggle to see how this would be pertinent though.
Well because US is exactly shaped for the employee to be a modern slave: no social security net in case you are jobless so you have to get rolled over by the boss. Breaking point for most isn't the morality of the company but when they are endangered or can't provide for their families...
but will they, but they adjust income based on the area. and people are much more reluctant to move to a red state/ or the place with low probability of jobs outside of the ones being listed. moving is also kinda expensive too.
I don’t drink, but I’m gonna crack a really nice bottle when Musk suck starts a glock. Will be his greatest lifetime achievement. I hope he video tapes it so I can bust a nut to it.
The most generous interpretation of this that I can give is, "if I ransack the government, the government won't be able to kill millions." Questionable logic.
The guy just enjoys adding to the number of times "Hitler" is said online.
Took you guys over a decade to get here.
Thank you for listening to me and mocking me and calling me a ludite because I hated Elon Musk and everything he represented.
Also, visit Thunderfoot's youtube channel, apologise and thank him for his activism.
you gotta be joking, thunderf00t is among the most unbearable, ignorant, most self-assured assholes going. he harassed random women for having opinions he disagreed with for years.
Even if you came across his current videos completely unaware of his history, his content has gotten progressively worse - at least his Musk stuff (the only thing of his I've tried watching recently). All of his Elon Musk videos are bloated with recycled memes, repeating the same points, and congratulating himself on how smart/right he is. It's insufferable even if you dont know his ugly personal views and history.
Why do you feel so positive about Thunderf00t? The guy is supposed to be a physicist and does not even think about the squared cube law. He got full of his own shit once he became popular many years ago.