"If I have to create stories so that
the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American peoplewe win, then that's what I'm going to do."Yea, we already knew that JD, thanks.
Right? I get that some of middle America feels slighted, and I’m all for preventing the hollowing out of small town America, but I don’t see lying xenophobic scapegoating being the answer here. That’s how you get nationalist parties and paramilitary “cultural enforcement” groups.
Instead, I see a need to foster and fund community organizations and civil engagement. Improved infrastructure and green spaces. More affordable housing - bring people back into the towns rather than the outskirts of it. But unfortunately, oddly, for some reason, that’s not as easy of a sell as the “people be eating your pets” trope.
They think it's "smart people's" fault, and those college educated, holier-than-thou smarty pants folks with their big words and fancy wine-sippin' need to be punished. I think a lot of them know they're being misled, they just don't really care.
They know we hate Trump, and so that's a good enough indication that he must be the solution. Very simple-minded stuff.
Unions. Tax the rich. Enforce environmental and labor laws. House the homeless. Fund education. This is all fixable but the billionaires who own us don't want it fixed.
“If you think my Haitian stories are bad, just wait until I start making up stories about Jews. I get most of my “news” from this website called 4chan. Ever heard of it?”
But I saw it on TV
So this is surely enough grounds to sue, if not criminally prosecute, this cunt.
Sure, just like we created a story about him fucking a couch to bring attention to what a weird little choad he is.
If I Vote for the Guys Making up Stories to Scare me my life is going to GREATLY IMPROVE!
Doesn't "so hungry they eat cats" indicate the failures of the food safety net and the suffering of the immigrants? I don't get why this story would make anyone with an ounce of empathy less sympathetic to immigrants instead of more sympathetic.
It really is a scathing indictment of our country that, even if the allegations were true (they aren't), the proposed solution to the problem Republicans have offered up is to deport all of the people back to their home country rather than just... I dunno. Making sure they have other means of feeding themselves.
What the fuck has become of our society?
What the fuck has become of our society?
Mass media manipulation, constant class war, a legacy of ultrapatriotism, and crippled education has turned us into a nation of people arrogant in their own ignorance and fed up with how shit the world is today.
Mass media keeps us all at each other's throats, stirring up hate and violence for views, and those media owners are almost all old conservative white men who will gladly court fascism for lower taxes.
What we perceive as food safety net failures is just another active weapon in the class war.
Everyone will wring their hands and say 'What can we do it's the economy!' when it is rich people actively trying to erase who they consider as undesirable.
Yeah Vietnamese people ate dogs, cats, rats,etc. But not in the US. In Vietnam, during the war. Only because the war caused food scarcity.
An old Vietnamese man explained to me they didn't kill their pets. But if their pet died, they would give it to their neighbours to eat, and their neighbours would do the same if their pet died. Because no matter how hungry they got, they wouldn't want to eat their own dog.
Both sad and strangely heartwarming. I wonder if this is where these stories originated from.
you could look at it as they aren't hungry, but like the taste of cat. let's be honest, Americans don't know much about other countries, many have never left their own states. so they don't know if they eat cats there or not.
We generally don't eat animals that eat other animals to avoid collecting pathogens and diseases.
When JD watches Backroom Casting Couch, You think he jerkes off to the couch?
There are a billion ways that people are suffering. You can talk about any of them. Inventing new ones doesn't mean you care. It means the opposite.
Especially if your lies are demonizing a group of people who have certainly faced their own struggles.
At what point is the libel? Could every Haitian living in the US join a class action to sue vance?
At no point would anything Vance says be considered libel.
Slander however...
I've never heard of a class action libel suit before, I don't think it's a thing. Seems like libel is saying specific damaging things about a specific individual. But IANAL, I just watch a lot of Legal Eagle.
I thought his boss hated "fake news"
"hates"
Someone's taking the piss out of it on google, got a laugh
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I wonder what it's like to be a Haitian living in Springfield right now, seeing people relentlessly posting uncritical memes about the former president's racist lies, while various schools, businesses, and government offices are closed day after day due to threats of violence...
Can't log in anymore without seeing weird photoshops of cats and dogs being cooked and eaten. TikTok is covered in people dancing to remixes of Trump's racist comments. I'm sure this is all helping /s
When you're in a hole, dig harder!
No wonder they matched him with JT.
He'd draw on a weather map with a sharpie too,
Literally do and say anything, no matter how ridiculous, to not ever admit a mistake.
Especially if you're drilling a hole in a couch.
He practically said, "I've been bullshit*ting you."
well, it's in the definition of GOP...
It's what his cult wants.
Sounds exactly like Boris Johnson, prime minister in the UK and notorious for making up stories. He basically steered the UK economy in a dive and parachuted out so another imbecile was at the wheel when all the warnings began to blare. Stories don't make for good policies.
That's basically what the Trump Administration did, tho they were voted out. When Trump was complaining about the Biden economy during that talking point ad disguised as a debate, I kept getting frustrated that Harris didn't say they were cleaning up his mess...in retrospect, I imagine that she wanted to distinguish herself from Trump's repeated that wasn't me that was you strategy.
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Trump used all the financial emergency tools when the economy was good. He lowered taxes and interest rates. This supercharged the economy, but left us vulnerable to normal market dangers since we had nothing stable and reliable left in the event of an unforeseen contraction. Despite economists objecting and even resigning in protest, he still pushed it through because the general population doesn't understand how the economy works. All they would see are Trump POTUS = good economy.
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Obama left us with a pandemic response team to stay ahead of any possible pandemics at the advice of leading scientists. Trump disbanded the entire thing for no objective reason, just power, control, and hate. Then, COVID happened.
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The COVID pandemic alone saw the worse market sell-off since the Great Depression. We were hitting multiple circuit breakers per week to stop a complete market sell-off. It was so bad, that just owning futures of oil was literally a loss because you had to pay to store it since no one was buying. People went bankrupt from one day to the next for merely owning oil.
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The money printer go brrrrr meme happened under his admin to prevent the economy from spiraling out of control. GAS GAS GAS!! The underlying joke was that they kept saying that inflation wasn't going to suffer the largest creation of currency in the country's history. It was straight lies because how is an immense injection of trillions of dollars with no remarkable increase in production of goods not going to cause inflation? It's impossible.
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The low-ass interest rates with a halted economy left very few places to invest money, so that went into the stock market and corporations buying houses. Interest rates were lower than stock market returns, especially since the government showed it would intervene, so wealth was flowing from one to the other creating absolutely no tangible value yet accumulating wealth for the people that could afford it. It was basically a relative wealth robbery of the middle class right out in the open.
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To solve the inflation crisis, Biden had to jack up interest rates. Now, no one wants to sell their house to get into a new loan with double the interest rate, which is exacerbating the housing shortage. Meanwhile, house insurance is skyrocketing due to climate change and the government hasn't done ahit about it.
I don't think anyone could get away with effectively hurting the economy worse than Trump did. Someone or the general population would've intervened.
These blatant lies are ridiculous. Seriously, from the economy to pointless rally attendance numbers, everything those people say is the opposite of truth. Whatever they blame on someone else is what they did. Whatever they claim they did is what someone else did. It's like living in a crazy opposite land. Freaking, they stole the playbook right out from George Orwell. ughh!!
edit: typos and word choices
I kept getting frustrated that Harris didn’t say they were cleaning up his mess…in retrospect, I imagine that she wanted to distinguish herself from Trump’s repeated that wasn’t me that was you strategy.
That's exactly it. "You did it", "no you did it!" finger pointing doesn't accomplish anything.
Also it's not entirely truthful. This inflation is a global phenomena. Not everything about the economy is under the President's control. The US has fared better than most countries and the world and Biden has managed the aspects of the economy he could extremely competently. It's damn near impossible to come out of an economic situation like this without a recession, but he pulled it off.
But people when people feel the economy is bad telling that "the economy is good actually" just makes a candidate seem out of touch. Really what's needed is some trust-busting (which is in the works) and raising taxes on the wealthy (also in the works). But there's still a lot of people that believe the trickle down stuff (including the undecideds that Harris needs to get), so that won't do either.
Inflation is always problematic politically. Someone gets a raise that matches inflation, they feel like they gained something they earned. We actually term it a pay raise (when it really shouldn't) and employers most definitely present it as something they're generously giving the employees. So people don't see inflation as being the reason they got a pay raise, it's simply the reason their pay raise was taken away from them. Inflation is difficult to explain because there's multiple reasons for it, and trying to explain concepts around the velocity of money to someone angry about inflation isn't going to go well. People tend to just say "it's because the government is printing money" even when interests rates have been increased which is the opposite of printing money.
So yeah the economy is a complicated subject. So... "we're going after the corporations for price gouging and we're gong to bring down the cost of medicine" are the things Harris is saying because one minute is not enough time to explain the real complexities of the economy to people that believe the "trickle down" nonsense.
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What a horrible response. Wtf is wrong with that party.
"Pay attention to me! NOW!"
So he thinks we've already forgotten about his furniture kink?
WHAT YOU SAY !!
ALL YOUR COUCH ARE BELONG TO US!
Although this story isn't related, I've been trying to get the name JD Vance changed online to "Joy Division Vance" given his views on women.
The future Joy Division Vance sees for American Women
In World War II, Nazi Germany established brothels in the concentration camps (Lagerbordell or Freudenabteilungen "Joy Divisions") to increase productivity among inmates, although these institutions were used mostly by Kapos, "prisoner functionaries" and the criminal element, because regular inmates, penniless and emaciated, were usually too debilitated and wary of exposure to Schutzstaffel (SS) schemes. In the end, the camp brothels did not produce any noticeable increase in the prisoners' productivity levels, but instead, created a market for coupons among the camp VIPs.[1]
The women forced into these brothels came mainly from the women-only Ravensbrück concentration camp,[2] except for Auschwitz, which used its own prisoners.[3] In combination with the German military brothels in World War II, it is estimated that at least 34,140 female inmates were forced into sexual slavery during the Third Reich.[3]
Clever, but might be too niche of a reference for people to understand.
Yeah, please don’t tarnish Joy Division by associating them with Vance.
Man....
People really don't know it from the band anymore?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zuuObGsB0No
That piano coming in is fucking iconic, but I guess by now even if people had heard of the band they don't remeber where the name came from
TIL, thanks. Makes a bit more sense now why the band chose the name.
If the American people are not suffering, I am just gonna say they are suffering so the media pay attention to their nonexistent suffering.
That silence in that clip was so fucking loud. The reporter was in disbelief for a good 2 mins.
LOL he's still butthurt about being a weird couchfucker
fuck that couchfucking couchfucker
That is unbelievably irresponsible.
When the inevitable killings start, will they keep doubling down?
Republicans have such a talent for saying things that really make you hate that theyll never see your response.
Lieing is endemic to the species.
Well, I can do that too, couch fucker.
I have been to Springfield, Oh. I delivered heavy equipment to the city administrators. The place has no drama.
Not until now where they've been getting bomb threats to SCHOOLS and HOSPITALS.
repugnicunt terrorists that will face zero consequences...
Maybe it's because all the drama causing cats and dogs have been eaten?
Spin on a spin at this point.
Is that like a hat on a hat?
Please
claplistenWhat a repugnant sentient bag of shite this wretch is. Good to know he'll disappear into welcome obscurity in a few months. Back to screwing furniture, you malcontent.
You mean the same suffering of the American people that the American people are doing to the American people because you riled up the American people with bullshit about the American people.
LMAO! We would have an easier time paying attention like we're trying to without all the lies and distractions from the evil class.
now, i not a professional here, whatever field that would be. But last time i checked, this is just something that we call "bad faith lying"
Jesus christ i hate this country sometimes.
Imagine a President Vance. Compare to a President Waltz. Either would be possible.
I did a search because it seemed to crazy to be believable.
Waste of time; they are always that crazy
I got excited at first that this had a video of him saying that.
Click the Bluesky link, it's there.
oh these things look like screenshots from places like Xitter or such. bluesky seems awesome. and wow. oh wow. I mean he might as well said if I have to make things up to win election I will.
Couchfucker has a point
Edit: I should have added \s. I guess calling him a couchfucker wasn’t a hint enough
Does he? Wouldn't it be better for him to spread stories about actual suffering and how he would fix it?
They only have a concept of ways to fix it, no actual plans. This way, they don't need a plan because the problem goes away once they stop pushing their bullshit narrative.
No he doesn't. If there's so much suffering, put a spotlight on the actual problems. Making shit up helps nobody and completely ruins the lives of Haitian immigrants in this case.
He's just trying to deflect from his blatant racism.
Tons of videos, first hand accounts of Haitians eating dogs, cats, birds, etc. The gaslighting from the Left on this issue is retarded.
If you can find a video of Haitians eating American pets I'll delete my account.
You might want to make that conditional on videos. Racists can and do lie when making "first hand accounts."
The guy just admitted to making it up. You are lying.
Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every word.
Never, ever trust the word of a conservative. A conservative is incapable of speaking truthfully on any topic at all. Lying is simply part of who they are at their core. It always has been.
https://x.com/its_The_Dr/status/1832943091042431442
https://x.com/amuse/status/1833001364751835593
https://x.com/PriDFar1/status/1833821975896367223
It's all right in front of you. But go ahead and say the sky isn't blue. Or the emperor isn't naked.
Yeah ... No that's not true at all. It's crazy that you even believe that. I mean, I don't think you do, I think you're a troll with an agenda because believing that is insane.
The only gaslighting going on is by the MAGA folks and QAnon conspiracy crowd. The reasonable people understand this is made up bullshit. Fuck even JD Vance just said it's made up.
https://x.com/nypost/status/1834922254838190118
The difference between a conspiracy theory and reality is about 36 hours.
Why are Haitians eating them? They don't eat them in Haiti. They mostly have jobs, so they're not starving.
Explain it to us please.
