Premium Ads

The only time I've had an ad on YouTube with premium(on their site) is when I went in to invisible mode.

In my opinion it's absolutely stupid that invisible mode has the capability of detecting that you have an account because it skips the age verification blocker on content-sensitive videos, but it gives ads to people with premium. It's obviously able to see that you have a YouTube account so therefore it should be able to just do the next step of saying okay does this account have premium. The only thing people are asking for was it to not log the videos they're watching but they had to make it some Next Generation NASA level secret hidden profile shit that doesn't actually do anything.

Also it really bugs me that they've added ads for YouTube and beds on discord. If I have my YouTube account linked to my Discord account I should not receive ads on the in bed. It should be able to see my YouTube account via electrons cookie system and be able to link it to an account that has premium.

Probably the lower tier of premium that’s being tested in Germany.

https://www.androidauthority.com/youtube-premium-lite-returns-3491193/

Huh weird, the only reason to use Premium is to cut out the adverts.

"Would you like to buy Premium?" "Ooh, what do I get?" "YOU GET NOTHING! GOOD DAY SIR!"
- Less ads I guess? Idk
The add is German for sure so that would make sense
- It also says "DE" next to the logo, so yeah.
If Premium Lite was like described in the article, just ad free YouTube without other features like YouTube Music, but for half the price, then it would actually be a good deal

But since the user is getting ads it seems like something else
The poor-mans-premium. Subpremium. Ingenious.

Fucking called it

The only benefit now, but what if they start to serve 30 non-skippable ads without premium and ONLY 5 with premium, what a deal! Right?

the “lesser evil” strategy is so hot rn
Quick, what's tomorrow's winning numbers?
Does lemmy have agedlikewine and agedlikemilk?
Fuck you man! You gave them the idea.
wpgg
Lol that is gold

Imagine paying money to see 2 fucking ads before a video.

As another reply said already

Imagine cable tv! (in the US at least, and, it seems, Canada, too)

It is so absurd until you realize people already accepted that shit.. wtf!!!
- Yes, but this is german and in Germany most TV is free with ads or paid without ads.
You just described Amazon Prime TV
Its like going to the local cinema, ads before the movie.
- I went to a Regal Cinema for the first time a few months ago and they played 20 minutes of ads that began at the advertised movie start times. Insane.
- And that's always been bs. But at least then I can get tmy seats online and show up "late"
Imagine paying money to watch YouTube.
Or imagine installing uBlock Origin and not seeing ads at all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

YouTube really promoted uBlock more than uBlock could even promote itself
- Don't use ublock, use ublock origin, the latter is open-source and trustworthy.
Imagine not using NewPipe, which has no ads and can play music in the background while you use other apps simultaneously (Samsung only feature I've heard, but still)
- I use vanced, but NewPipe is also great.
🎶cable🎶
- Tele license

If I'm paying monthly for a service without ads and I see a single (1) advertisement, I should at least get a month of free subscription because the other party is in breach of contract.

Ugh, you didn't even pay for Premium Plus?

Bloody peasant...

Firefox with ad blocker? You are wasting your money.

My wife uses a TV to watch YouTube, My kid uses a phone, My other kid uses a tablet.

Saying just use ad block isn't feasible for everyone.
- If you use something Android based for watching YouTube on the TV (some TVs, fireTV stick, etc.), you can: https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube?tab=readme-ov-file
  
  I haven't watched a single Ad on YouTube on TV (SmartTube), mobile (ReVanced), or PC (Firefox + uBlock origin) since it became unbearable... five years ago or so?
- SmartTube for TV and ReVanced/uYouPlus for Andriod/IOS devices. SmartTube can be tricky to set up depending on the TV, but the mobile apps are relatively simple to get working.
- i watch YouTube on my phone with ff+ubo
- On a TV use SmartTube. On QN Android device (phone or tablet) use LibreTube (or InnerTune for music)
- get youtube revanced for both phone and tablet at least
- uBlock origin and Sponsorblock work for me on Firefox Android Beta.
- And I don't pay for Spotify or any other music service. Premium yt videos is just a bonus
It used to be free AND ad-free.
- Sure but that's obviously unsustainable
Do creator even get any real amount of money from the money collected through premium?

Buying premium seems like the dumbest shit imaginable to me.
- They do, and based on reported stats it gets them more per viewer. No idea if anybody's audited those stats though
- They get 2/3, as opposed to 55% of ad revenue and nothing from adblock users
I have ad blocker on my pc, but pay for youtube premium for the TV app and the youtube music.
- Use LibreTube or InnerTune, no need to pay. I've heard good things about SmartTube too
How long until that's just made illegal?

What is the benefit of premium if you still have to watch ads?

The logo gives you a sense of pride and accomplishment
- This reference will never get old tbh.
- You can get that logo for free with youtube revanced
Fr tho.
YT music

And this is why i,won't start paying them money. They will never be content and will just keep pushing ads further and further.

Yeah the price will increase or ads or both. But it never just stops. It's never enough
- The growth must continue!
  
  Even when you've reached complete market saturation...

This is why you get anti-anti-adblock userscripts in tampermonkey inside of your browser and/or the same inside of adguard for windows. Along with an adblocking DNS

Give them an inch and they'll take 1000 miles. No more money for google, ever.

Don't disable uBlock Origin, even when you have YT premium. Using Chrome counts as disabling uBlock Origin
- Also, don't pay for youtube premium if they're going to serve you ads either way
- Brave still allows uBO to work.

The second I get an ad on premium I cancel my subscription. Blocking ads on apple tv wasn’t easy, but Ill find a way

Get rid of the apple TV next if that doesn't let you.
Frying pan (Google) meet the fire (Apple)
Same not paying a dollar if they do that shit. I'd rather become a patron of the channels I like.
Sideload the uYou+Extras app on your iPhone and then just use AirPlay to watch youtube videos on apple TV. Gets around adverts 99% of the time. Sometimes one will slip through, just close the video and reopen it and it’ll not have an advert anymore.

I have premium too once I saw an ad and complained and it turned out to be a bug. I even had engineers reach out with questions when they were fixing the issue.

Maybe that has happened here? They have announced any changes.

Web: Firefox + uBlock Origin
Mobile (Android only): Grayjay
TV (Android): Smarttube
iPhone/iPad: Brave Browser

Enjoy

Why not Firefox + uBlock Origin for Android?
- You can, but I like using an app, because for example I can use pip with grayjay (watch video while doing something else), I'm not sure if that is possible with firefox + ublock
- At least for me it doesn't keep autoplaying videos/going to next video on Youtube (probably a setting I could change somewhere). Grayjay is pretty handy for other media platforms as well.
Newpipe on android also works. Also viewing YouTube via the browser with uBlock origin on mobile works.
Web option also works for mobile.
A more bigger list:

Web: Firefox (or any firefox fork on apple tech you can use safari + adguard) with Ublock origin + libreredirect. The yt frontend sites: Invidious,Piped(broken at this time),Poketube (my personal favorite)

Mobile (Android and Ios): Yattee(The only ios client, broken can only stream local downloaded content or from Poketube servers.),Clipious (invidious client built with flutter),Libretube(Piped,broken at this time),Grayjay (source available not strictly youtube client),Vlc media player (Ios and android not strictly a yt client it can play downloaded videos or stream from poketube servers),Tubular(Newpipe with sponsor block and return youtube dislike not strictly a yt client you can use regular newpipe aswell.),Freetube(unofficial).

PC(Linux,Windows and Macos): Plasmatube, (fits well with kde plasma a little to quiet),QTube(Yt client built with qt,Embeds yts site),Freetube (if your fine with Electron which is using chromium),Vlc media player (said above).
- Additionally, there's freetube for android, newpipe, tubular (newpipe with sponsorblock), and safari + adguard
  
  also grayjay is source available rather than open source
- Am I just an idiot or is Yattee basically unusable?
PC: FreeTube
- Also available unofficially for Android.
My premium is about to run out, and I had solutions for both my TV and phone via my TV's homebrew store and ReVanced. Didn't know that Brave just completely shut down ads on iPad, though. Amazing tip, thanks a bunch!

I feel like you don't fully understand that the line can go up. At the expense of everything...

Line MUST go up.
- Fiduciary duties cut both ways.

YouTube ads cost about $0.026 (two and a half cents) per 30 seconds of viewing. This is called cpv.

It's not fair that ss a viewer I'm not able to bid on my own to show myself an empty ad slot. I'm looking at the price of premium and it definitely seems like more revenue for YouTube than I'd give them from ads.

these posts are just getting ridiculous. USE. BRAVE. OR. FIREFOX.

Don't use brave please.
- did not know that, thanks. well, the biggest plus for me on brave was the background play option. any other browsers you recommend instead of it that has this feature?

How is this a shitpost? Is it a fake screenshot?

YouTube is a shitpost.

I get ads on premium sometimes. I think it's a fluke but def unacceptable

Damn I just have ublock origin, so I never get ads and I don't pay a cent. Hope your premium membership works out for you tho
- Thanks, I'm still grandfathered in at the beta price, but I mainly use it for discovering music to add to my Plex collection. The free YouTube is a bonus for me.
  
  I know it's temporary, I'll probably cancel when Im asked to pay full price
Is it really a fluke or just boiling the frog slowly?
- Oooh, like when the whole purpose of paying for cable television was no ads?
I get ads on premium sometimes. I think it’s a fluke but def unacceptable

That's among the reasons why even with premium an ad blocker is required.
It's a bug with the android app.

I've seen it maybe 3 times in 8ish years on my phone. Never once in the TV app.

If it’s true and I get ads on my Premium (which.. to be fair I’m not paying full price anyway 😅), it may be the last push I needed to finally start reading books again..

Hey, so I canceled my YouTube Premium subscription a couple of months back and decided to pick up reading instead. It's a different kind of entertainment, but I'm actually really enjoying it. I've been finding some really great books, and I'm finding it just as hard to put them down as I used to find it hard to stop binge-watching my favorite channels.
Nothing will ever be the push you are looking for
- I did it! Canceled Premium!
  
  I thought maybe to change it to a sub to Nebula or something… but then I realized it’d be like trading heavy cigarette smoking for heavy vape smoking.
  
  Now begins the « ween the brain off overstimulation » phase 😅

For everyone on Android, you can just patch the youtube app using ReVanced, which will remove ads, add sponsorblock, allow you to hide shorts and the "People also watched" sections. It can be pretty tricky to patch if you don't know what you're doing so feel free to tell me if you run into any issues.

If you don't care about the algorithm and your feed, you can get the third-party client NewPipe, it's FOSS ~~but sometimes crashes while reading some videos~~ It does not seem to crash anymore, so good thing!

Pick one!

I don't think I've ever had NP crash. What do you mean by "some videos"?
- Strange, I've had a video that crashed newpipe every time but now it seems to play fine. Maybe because it was a "Coming soon" video? Anyways it seems like it works fine now, I also had a bug where leaving the app would crash the app instead of doing background play but I also can't get it to occur again. I'll edit my original comment.
I use gray Jay instead, it has become really good the last wave of updates. Wife is on revanced, I'll change her over if gray jay adds shorts.

There is still a few paper cut issues with it, but over all I prefer gray jay over the official YouTube app.
- Well, thanks for sharing! The more options the better!

raises the question why pay for premium

For premium ads.
- i dont care how "premium" ads are im not paying for them

It's probably a bug. And to excuse the devs at Youtube, this is the first and only Premium client.

Is it really a bug or is it just boiling the frog slowly?

Check if you still have premium?

That's what the circled logo in the top left is for
- I know, but maybe it's related to:
  
  https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/23/24252145/youtube-premium-price-increase-europe-asia-middle-east-south-america
  
  If you haven't "accepted" the new prices, maybe you get this half-assed Premium.

What ads? (Firefox and adblocker)

Yep.. although.. Lately my TV PC’s CPU has been groaning under the weight of all the Firefox addons required to make YouTube usable lol.
- Less is sometimes more honestly. Its likely you've got so much running that they're fighting each other. See if you've got overlapping features and remove as many as possible while still keeping the same functionality.

That's why i never bought YouTube premium

Seeing ads in premium is ridiclous, For fuck sake!

"This is why I never bought YouTube premium"

Points out very recent issue with YouTube premium
- The implication being they never bought premium because this seemed inevitable.

A few years ago I got this experience on mobile and posted about it on r/assholedesign, but it was autoremoved as a banned repost even though I didn't see anything like it. Yet another ban happy subreddit, I'm glad to be out of that place. This is truly awful though, and why I'm happy to use revanced.

Those are some preem ads, choom.

I thought they didn't target children with their ads. Did I imagine that or is a barbie a product aimed at adults in Germany?

That was something that gets discussed now and then in politics but no. We have a lot of ads targeted to children.

These ads are preem, choom

Just keep jacking up the ad-free tier price level.

lol here we are, just after a few weeks when people were defending how yt premium was the best subscription plan ever on Lemmy. people deserve to be scammed like this tbh

Books don't have intrusive ads. Stop consuming YouTube slop.

I am very intelligent
I've seen books with ads for books in the middle.
- It's not even a new thing: https://lithub.com/the-time-terry-pratchetts-german-publisher-inserted-a-soup-ad-into-his-novel/
Bullshit. I've read books with obvious ads in them.
Is this look like a Slop?
- I mean, kinda, yeah. But that's okay: Most books are slop, too. 90% of everything is slop.
They can have product placement

Klaus Barbieland.

How much per ad man? I'm jealous 😀. I need my Downy and Toilet paper ads man. Maybe we could record the ads for prosperity and share them?