Pro-Trump ad uses Latin to target Latino voters
Pro-Trump ad uses Latin to target Latino voters
Covfefe Diem, imperator!
Covfefe is Classical Latin, not Vulgar Latin which is what the plebeians speak.
Same energy, different target demographic.
That address redirects to I think three different sites without HTTPS and then it ends up on some webhosting site
I bet this was some sort of gen AI mishap: "translate this campaign text to Latin", because of course Latinos speak Latin, and it's called Latin America too!
Although this would be twice as hilarious if they hired a translator who just went "🤷 ah well, money is money"
if they hired a translator who just went "🤷 ah well, money is money"
Probably a Latini...
Anyways, this reminds me when the series Homeland filmed at a location that was supposed to be a syrian refugee camp and hired arab speaking graffiti artists to "add authenticity" and they wrote things like "Homeland is racist" and "BlackLivesMatter" and shit like it instead of the requested "Pro -Assad" messages... https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/oct/15/homeland-is-racist-artists-subversive-graffiti-tv-show
“However, as Homeland always strives to be subversive in its own right and a stimulus for conversation, we can’t help but admire this act of artistic sabotage.”
Dude can't even admit the fact that they purposefully portray Muslim countries like that. What a shit bag.
What a dipshit, using a dead language for a dead campaign.
This can't be real. I mean . . it very much can be real, but c'mon. Somebody's just fucking with us right
The number of people in my town that think our language is American, Mexicans speak Mexican, all Asian people are Chinese, and any random combination of cities/countries are part of the United States makes this very plausible.
Like you could say American is a sub dialect of English with it further broken down into accents. But I doubt most folks think of it that way, especially folks who say "I speak American" outside of an argument with the English.
and any random combination of cities/countries are part of the United States
You do have a few Saint-Petersburgs, right? And Athens? And Cairos?
that think our language is American,
Similar to Russia then.
Mexicans speak Mexican,
Similar to Russia then.
all Asian people are Chinese,
Still similar to Russia.
The problem is I can see it being real and I can see it being put up by either campaign
Democrats are much more likely to have a Spanish speaker on staff at all levels. They are a more diverse bunch. Republicans, many from southern states will speak some Spanish, more so than northern white democrats. But, they are more likely to he a white only staff at each level, so nobody would pick up on it.
This is part of the reason diversity is important. It will be self evident to some people that things are not right, whereas those in a different world won't even notice.
Is it just me that wants to vandalize the Billboard with "Romanes eunt domus"
People called Romanes, they go the house?
Not “Sic semper tyrannis”?
If you'd do that I'd want to correct your terrible grammer!
Now, write it 100 times, or I'll cut your bollocks off.
Only Latin he needs is sic semper tyrannis
Get your foot off my neck
I don't know Latin and haven't taken Spanish for like 20 years, but would the first line translate to "Legal (my emphasis) Hispanics and Latinos"? Gotta love courting the votes of a demographic while still showing your bias against them.
Yep. I studied Latin and the "legales" is modifying the two nouns.
The first actually refers to residents of Hispania, so any classical Latin speaking immigrants from Spain and Portugal should feel included.
The second refers to the Latins, who were assimilated into the Roman (Trojan if believe the Aeneid) population and no longer exist.
Stylistically, I would have gone with the enclitic "-que" over the conjunctive "et."
EDIT: They messed up the verb. Well, I'm guessing they thought they were using a verb. The "vota" is the nominative plural of votum, so it reads "Votes for Trump."
They're not bright enough to know that the English verb "elect" derives from the perfect passive participle of "eligo, eligere" - electus.
They should have gone with "Eligite Trump!" - "Choose/Elect Trump!"
Basically I think though my latins rusty it reads like google translate in that the form seems wrong like someone transliterated English to Latin and ignored Latin grammar and logic in that Latin speaking people in Latin really doesn’t exist in the same way. Latini I think was only the subgroup of Latin speakers in Italy named Latium, either way not how a Roman Latin speaker would refer to a Latin speaker in general, not that the concept existed in the same way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latium
It’s kind of like translating Japanese directly into English, reads off if you say in the room there are many chair in English kinda deal.
No way this is real lmaoo
I almost have tears in my eyes.
Also a bit reminiscent of Johnny de Vito in "Romancing the stone"
I know maga is dumb and all but I gotta imagine this is fake. No way they would actually know latin. That would only happen if they went to church as much as they pretend they do.
bruh google translate
Kek. I'm reminded of when the Russian FSB supposedly caught Western spies in Russia. Among the incriminating evidence were several pirated copies of The Sims game. Presumably, the FSB goons were told to plant phone simcards at the scene but they misunderstood it to mean the PC game. As such, I am conjecturing that this billboard was designed by inept Russian or Indian online operatives.
Trump pro imperatore MMXXIV
Hoc comment me fecit rideat
Y'know I could see this being done by a third party in an attempt to portray the GOP as not caring about Hispanics (Not that they do care lol)
They would be heroes, this is amazing if so
This also is amazing if it’s the GOP…
Just a different sort of amazing…
Ok I’ll write “Hispanics and Latinos vote for Trump” and so they think it’s from one of them, translate-> Latina and done!
Bottom text does seem like informal portuguese, so progressive
¡Lol!
Sic Transit Racism.
The astroturfing is obscene on several levels of ignorance and artificiality, fake as the sincerity on a Nestlé ad, only more ignorant. "We don't and won't listen to a single Latino among us".
And still, I hear of Latinos gravitating towards this shit. It's like they've normalized living under bigoted oppression in places like Texas or Arizona, and/or fall for the "family values" catholic bias.
Or they come at it from some other batshit insane angle, referring to the orange plague of 2016-20 - "Funcionó! It worked!" and refusing to elaborate further, as if the case was obvious in some way that's utterly incomprehensible to me.
Plenty of people originary from South America have "old fashioned" values and principles (family, religion, homophobia, racism, expectations of a certain kind of "strong" "leader") which map into ideologies well into the Conservative Right in countries which already went through a moral liberalization stage, and in some cases they even hold pretty much Fascist "values" which would map very well into what Trump sells nowadays.
I live in Portugal, which nowadays manages to be more morally liberal that the US, at least amongst the younger generations (mostly because the US went backwards), were the greatest immigrant group are Brasilians (same language) and in the last two elections in Brasil the ones who voted from Portugal were far more pro-Bolsonaro than the ones living in Brasil, which puts them to the Right of the Portuguese Far-Right (which doesn't actually sell a return to a Fascist Dictatorship like Bolsonaro does, are pretty much mute on the subject of Religion and are comparativelly mild when it comes to Nationalism)
Similary when I lived in Britain during the Leave Referendum and worked in a Tech Startup in London, the only guy there who voted Brexit was a dual national British-Indian who, judging by things his kid let slip before daddy shut him up, was an Indian Nationalist (who had even attended a Military College as a kid in India).
Further, if I look at the immigrants that my own country sent abroad during its previous time of heavy emmigration (back in the 60s/70s) those are people who mainly had pretty backwards ("traditional") values compared to those of the countries they moved to, and who since then if they did not deeply integrate in their host country (which, as far as I can tell, having been an immigrant myself, is quite common amongst people who immigrated due to economic need rather than a yearning for broader horizons) have kept more or less calcified certain values that even in their country of origin people moved away from over time - in other words, not only do people come in from other countries with values which are "old fashioned" in more modern countries, but it's not at all uncommon for people who have been immigrated for decades still thinking in many ways like people in their country of origin did all those decades ago even though in the meanwhile their country of origin society has evolved away from that kind of thinking.
He’s really crossed the rubicon now…
Alea iacta est
The united states delenda est
Very telling that they didn't have a single Latino person involved in this that could have told them this is wrong. And even if you don't speak Spanish, this would feel off to anybody with any sort of exposure to Latin American culture.
stultus stultus est
Et tu, Pence?
Honestly it's completely readable as someone who can understand Spanish, but it feels otherworldly for some reason, like I'm reading a quite not right version of Spanish, like reading Afrikaans to a Dutch speaker.
Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your vote
ad kalendas Graecas
Another, Four Seasons Total Landscaping. What a bunch of weird idiots.
Tlazcala delenda est?
trumpus ite domum
I didn't know Latins were big Opera enjoyers.
It’s the webbrowser of their choice.
Google says the bottom line is Czech. 🤷♀️🤣
I'm not American, but I'm really surprised that some Americans don't know anything about Spanish. I mean, there are a lot of places in the U.S. with Spanish names, and it's easy to encounter Hispanic/Mexican culture if you live in places like L.A.
I live over 5,000 kilometers from LA and have never been anywhere near it. As an American I am closer to actual Spain across the ocean.
The US is massive and not nearly as well-mixed as people believe. If you don't happen to live in a spanish-heavy area, it's like a Russian that doesn't know Spanish - obviously some do, but I'm not at all surprised by those who don't.
in terms of land-area, the us is closer to Europe than any single European country.
Imagine, for example, being surprised that Catalonians are unfamiliar with Sami, or Swedes being unfamiliar with Maltese.
Population wise, too. Minnesota is different than California, or even our neighbors (north and South Dakota, Wisconsin and Iowa, Canada to the north,).
Hell. The Twin Cities (Minneapolis and St Paul) are very different and we can lob insults across the river.
Well, there are people with different roots from all over the world. The fewest of us are actually native american, so I think everyone has their culture and embraces that on his own wish. Then we all come together in the middle to create American culture.
I know it's not the way it works and this sounds like racism doesn't exist in the US or something which is of course utter bullshit. This is the way I think how it should be done and how I practice it myself. I actually know a bit of Spanish and dipped my toe already in Mexican culture, but I'm not going to study and embrace it because it's not my particular culture, just as I am not expecting an Hispanic person to study and embrace my culture. In the end I don't think about culture a lot. I like cool and interesring people, cool and interesting music and of course good food. In total I just want to have a good time and I am happy to encounter parts of anyone's culture in a natural way were I can explore things more like an adventure and less like a chore
Cui bono?
Bono is the lead singer of U2
Cui him, then!
Caecilius est in horto
Are implying doctors who wear hardhats can't be latino?
As a Brazilian, I kinda see what's going on: "Você consegue me entender?", to which it's often replied "Sorry, I don't speak Spanish". Portuguese is not Spanish, galera!
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Now I'm picturing a racist candidate from another part of the world trying to appeal to the white minority via Anglo Saxon language and imagery billboards 😄🤦
It’ll probably work. Most Hispanic people I’ve met that vote love Trump.
why? Is it the usual trumpist reasoning? Or something else.
And that's good
