YouTube: Google has found a way to break Invidious

its working again lol

I updated the docker image and still getting this error . It's been a few days like this.
- Seems like some people are having issues while others aren't, maybe it's just a game of IP tag.

They've been doing it for a while. Since June of last year or something. They have ipv6 rotation tools to get around it now. But youtube is basically ip banning instances.

Its fixed now

Invidious uses scraping instead of the official Youtube API, so this is expected to happen from time to time..

Google is going to keep finding ways to break these front-ends as they search for ways other than ads to monetize their services. I fully expect they will eventually lockout the public API so only the official app can use it in that quest as well. In my opinion the front-ends are just a bandaid and the real solution is something other than YouTube completely, if that is even possible at this point.

All of the front-end solutions are telling Google is that people want that content and they will come to YouTube for it one way or the other, Google just needs to figure out how to force people down the workflow that gets them the most money.

Invidious does not rely on the api, its a scraper
- Wasn’t talking about Invidious with that bit of my comment as I am aware they don’t use the api. I meant for things that do use the api.
Peertube?
The only actual solution is switching to open/public infrastructures.

Nothing else is an actual solution.
That would be a really fast way for me to stop spending any of my time on youtube I guess.
- They'd be doing me a huge favor if they go aheadwith this plan.
It does seem like they moved their focus away from ublockO to focus on the front ends, though. While I can’t use invidious, I can use regular ol’ YT with UblockO activated and I’m not constantly having to fight and wait for an update.

I think it’s funny those pricks are fighting a multi front battle that they’re clearly losing lol

Hopefully it gets sorted out soon. I wish if I HAD to pay money for youtube I could do it in a way thats data respecting.

It's already fixed with the March 31st release. Some instances are just not updated yet.
- Lol, nice.

They broke everything even revanced, had to scour for a new patch since only newpipe still worked but I can't access the watch later playlist on it.

The moment I notived revanced has stopped working for me a new version was already available that worked. I guess ot might've been a staged rollout?
Revanced has been crashing for me every single time I try to patch something, is that why? 🤔 I was gonna submit a bug report tomorrow.
- Dont know about you, but i had to reset my phone and it fixed a lot of the issues i was having.
- I had installation issues after patching is that your issue?
- Yeah, try this out.
Yup. I had to patch 19.09.37 and I'm back to working. Also microG 0.3.1.3.240913.
What happened revanced?
- Spoofing app version stopped working. Luckily if you simply patched a newer version it still works correctly.

Too late, one small change and it works. Just some params.

Remember when you didn't have to red queen your hacker shit to watch funny videos?

God I feel old. I'm so sick of this shit.

The change the Youtube front end code now and then, breaking yt-dlp temporarily until someone checks in a patch.

NewPipe still works

When i noticed i checked the github to see there was an active bug report.

24 hours later they where talking about a fix that was on its way.

I updated this morning and all is well.

Okay but imagine if you didn't have all this wasted oppositional bullshit, and we just built open architectures.

It seems clear they don't want us using their site with videos.

I think publishing video files on the Web is not some unique know-how.

By the way, neither is search, neither are ratings.

And "being in the same space" with the rest of the world is an illusion due to the way recommendations work there. I mean, it's sufficient to look at the views counter under a video and combine it with some other numbers to realize this.

Freedom is so close. It's not in defeating the network effect, it's in realizing that it's fucking useless in anything but scaring us away from leaving trap spaces.

You say this- many people do but no one has made an alternative? So no it isn't easy to make a video streaming site. Everyone just say "it's too popular" that it has the entire audience but no, there just isn't any good alternative anywhere. People don't get how fast everyone would switch and how little anyone would look back if there was just any good alternative. Make one! Stop saying it's easy and make one! You figure out how to stream consistently and have these response times and these peripheral functions if it's so easy! It's not easy. They obviously have a superior product and is now enshittening it so they can milk money from it
- but no one has made an alternative? So no it isn’t easy to make a video streaming site.
  
  This and all your further smartassery would be funny if the Web weren't full of alternatives which technically work just as good or just as bad, just don't have the network effect.
  
  Make one! Stop saying it’s easy and make one! You figure out how to stream consistently and have these response times and these peripheral functions if it’s so easy!
  
  I don't think somebody saying that something is not needed should provide an implementation to support their words.
  
  Also I think something like Lemmy + BitTorrent support in browsers would solve the problem. It's actually funny that you still can't just use HTML5 video tag with a magnet link.
Seems like something like Gray Jay is a very easy way to transition off of these sources, too. Just have a source agnostic player.
- From what I see it still means using YouTube for people transitioning from it, just via its API or scraping or something.
  
  I meant that there's no need to be afraid of losing YT.
What are you even talking about?
- I'll need more specific questions.

Not sure if it's related, but my youtube revanced installation was also not working. I had to repatch again using the most recent patch.

Same, except it hasn't worked since. I'll get like 30 seconds in and it'll buffer indefinitely
- I force closed the app from settings and then that went away. I didn't mess with anything else.
- Did you install their new version of MicroG?
  
  If you did, you have to turn off "Google Device Registration" in the MicroG settings to stop it from buffering indefinitely.
- This was happening to me until I repatched and reinstalled the app. I didn't change anything between installs so I'm not sure what happened.
- Reboot your phone

It says that Piped is affected as well. This is probably a dumb question from me, but I use NewPipe in my phone to access YT - and it did not cause any trouble yet. I heard that the Piped project also uses NewPipe Extractor under the hood (which basically scrapes YT website). So why would Piped break but not NewPipe ?

This sort of cat and mouse style thing is completely expected, almost designed for period it's no big deal when it happens. It's only a big deal when it's still going on many days later

Unless Google implements a severe restriction on access to the YouTube API or imposes the requirement to be logged in to a verified Google account, every solution will not be 100%

:laughs in Newpipe:

This post has been active longer then it took to deploy a fix, which was out before this article came out.

Get fucked youtube

Why am I not surprised?

yeah I can see why they don't want invidious having access to their platform

Umm, months ago already?

I kinda stop using these services after a while. I want the recommendation algorithm.

Meh, discoverability isn't really as much of a problem as people think it is. Add videos to your Watch Later from your Subscriptions tab, and as YouTubers you like do collaborations or recommendations, you'll discover similar channels. Sometimes you'll find a channel from a creator's website or from a podcast, or from a social media feed you follow (reverse-chrono or most-liked only, please). It's a world-wide web, and as much as companies try to sell you the myth of discoverability-as-a-service, that's just a marketing tool. They need it to push ads and drive retention. You don't need it at all, because the web already does that.

I'm almost entirely off of black-box recommendation algorithms, and I still find new things I like. In fact, my to-watch, to-read, and to-listen queues are too big to handle in a reasonable amount of time. I regularly have to unsubscribe from things I don't like as much anymore or risk getting deluged with too many things I want to see. But the bonus is, I don't get anything I don't want to see.

Write your own algorithm. It's a better life, and it barely takes any more time or effort. Just change your bookmarks and be willing to put in an extra click or two when you want to consume something.
- I don't want to do all that just to watch a few videos a day.
Just the opposite for me, I disconnected because I'm done with Google, now I want to stay way so the algorithm can't find me. I'll check what I want to check, when I want it.
It's fine tbh, but YouTube is really running out of great contents these days, and you have to constantly check the sources before being gaslighted. I would rather take my pace and search up things when I wanted.
Seconded, the recommendations can help you discover new things, that you didn't even know existed.. that said, I can't stand having someone stalk and monetize your every move.
- I quite like it precisely because it provided no recommendations. I'm not enticed to waste time watching something I wasn't interested in 3 seconds ago. If I want to watch something I have to look it up and that's usually the end of it.
- that said, I can't stand having someone stalk and monetize your every move
  
  Well, they can't. I have an anonymus account only for youtube that I access only over the VPN with adblockers.
why are people downvoting you for wanting to use the algorithm recommendations?
- Some people use downvotes to signalize a different opinion, which is kind of toxic. We want different opinions here. What we don't want is hate, extremism, fake news, ... That's what deserves the downvotes.
- FOSS folks who absolutely cannot stand any existing options besides FOSS
Same. I have new pipe on my phone but end up using the official app with premium more often.