Alleged Cybertruck bomber was ‘big’ Trump supporter: source
Alleged Cybertruck bomber was ‘big’ Trump supporter: source
Sources say Matthew Livelsberger, a Green Beret who enlisted in the U.S. Army as a teenager, was a fan of the president-elect.
Summary
Matthew Livelsberger, the suspect behind the Tesla Cybertruck explosion outside Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas, was described as a “big” Trump supporter and a highly trained Green Beret with 19 years of military service.
Livelsberger, who died in the blast, rented the Cybertruck in Colorado and filled it with explosives, injuring seven.
Authorities are investigating the incident’s symbolism, speculating it may have been a political statement due to its location and links to Trump and Elon Musk.
No clear motive has been established.
I will still wait for more concrete details before I cast judgement, but in the meantime I can say this much:
Many leftist haters of Trump wouldn't go in a Cybertruck to make a statement. They'd probably even refuse to be paid to get in one.
The stupid things have had over a half dozen recalls in the last year. You couldn't pay me enough to get in one.
I already feel unsafe when I call a Lyft or Uber and get a Tesla. That alone removes a star.
I wouldn't trust a cyber truck to even blow up correctly.
When I look at his background. 19 years of military service at the sharp end, does not leave a person "fully whole". The US also has a history of neglecting the mental health of its service members.
This suicide might have more to do with those factors, than politics. The apparent political statement might just have been a final cry for attention.
Further, nobody willingly leaves the military at 19 years. 20 years and you get retirement pay for the rest of your life--19 gets you nothing.
Maybe he had a medical retirement, which is fully possible for any number of reasons, but...
Probably he did something egregious to get kicked out at 19 years. Leaders will often let servicemembers near 20 years retire when they're guilty of wrongdoing (in consideration of the many years served beforehand). To cut short a retirement career is to make an example of a person for doing something awful.
Edit: He was still active duty and stationed in Germany, making my whole comment moot. My bad. That's what I get for not reading the article before commenting ¯_(ツ)_/¯
The US neglects mental health in general. Cluster B's end up in charge because they lack basic empathy. When they get there the first thing they do is try to make sure they never get outed as a cluster B. After all they know what they do is wrong but think they can just tell enough lies to fool people. They gut any mental health system they can. Just look at that traitor reagan. He gutted the national system and forty years later we have a homeless population full of untreated mentally Ill.
Maybe he is trying to say something about the president elect's relationship with teslas owner.
I can imagine that relationship could seem troubling if you were a fan
So... there may be a motive.
The wife of the Cybertruck bomber Matthew Livelsberger left him just days before he detonated the vehicle outside the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas, according to a report.
With a bit more context from some of the texts he made here from here:
https://www.newsweek.com/cybertruck-explosion-matthew-livelsberger-texts-ex-girlfriend-2009064
My entirely premature, editorialized take is that this guy cheated on his wife, or his wife left him due to suspecting as much, he believed his life was ruined, and decided to go out with a bang.
He was a big Trump guy, was a Green Beret for multiple tours of duty, until 2019 when he suffered a traumatic brain injury, he kept working in the Army, most recently as remote and autonomous systems manager stationed in Germany.
Then he went home on leave, his wife leaves him, and 3 days before his death, several days after his wife left him, he texted his previous ex (not his very recently ex wife):
"I rented a Tesla Cybertruck. It's the s**t," read a text to Arritt, obtained by the Denver Gazette.
"I feel like Batman or halo,"
...
He apparently shot himself in the head whilst inside the CyberTruck, parked outside of the Trump hotel... which then caught on fire, and the fireworks and fuel cannisters inside the CyberTruck eventually went off as well:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c86wnx174q8o
"I'm comfortable calling it a suicide with a bombing that occurred immediately after," Sheriff McMahill said during Thursday's press conference.
As far as I can tell so far... the actual, specific mechanism that caused of the ignition of the CyberTruck does not appear to have been determined so far, but it was probably by design of Livelsberger.
While the car having fireworks inside of it is possibly coincidentally explained by New Years, fuel cans inside a rented CyberTruck probably signal an intention to go out with a bang.
...
So, yeah, summed up, my take is that this notably brain damaged individual, who was a big Trump fan and probably Elon fan as well, who felt like Batman driving around in a Halo warthog in a CyberTruck...
...basically just became suicidal after his wife left him and went on a joyride in a CyberTruck, then game overed himself in spectacular fashion.
No one supports Trump for logical reasons. He's the emotional choice.
When you get emotionally involved, crazy is a small step away
Also pretty easy to be betrayed by Trump: he claims to hold every possible stance on every issue. Then, he acts on only one person's benefit: Trump.
One of the Trump stories I re-post all the time is how he had a lottery where the top prize was dinner with him at the White House. They ran the lottery for months and there was never a single winner.
I once got a reply from a MAGoo saying that this was no different than when another pol sends an email asking you personally to contribute.
You'd think a green beret would be better at blowing shit up
He was likely making a statement and wanted fire and noise more than demolition and death (granted he also probably didn't care if some people around it got hurt). It's pathetic.
Probably, otherwise, why not drive it through the doors into the lobby?
Did he not succeed? Seemed to blow up pretty good.
What did they blow up? Their own vehicle and a piece of the road? Some random bystanders? A few thousands of damage to the hotel maybe? I don't know their goals, but I don't think that's successful if they wanted anything more than attention seeking. (edit: which honestly seems like it could be the goal, why else have fireworks instead of fertilizer?)
Compare with the Oklahoma City bombing.
I think it went exactly according to his plan.
I think they tend to do more training and support of friendly local forces. May have been upset with the Afghan war exit, I don't think it would have gone well for people he may have had contact with.
Saying this as an ex-soldier: The highly trained special forces are just as susceptible to psyops as the people they use them on. Sometimes more so because "if it was used on them, they would know better from experience" as they drink two more scoops of hooah Kool Ade. Nationalism isn't patriotism, and patriotism is earned and not irrevocable.
That soldier was lied to and manipulated, and fell for it.
That soldier was lied to and manipulated, and fell for it.
"Big Trump Supporter" Story checks out.
I’m mostly just worried about the level of training the Green Berets get. This guy clearly didn’t understand how explosives work and made the shittiest most ineffective bomb.
My money is on CTE. Five deployments to Afghanistan as a Green Beret... Apparently he had a "background in communications, IT and tactical unmanned aerial vehicles", so maybe not quite the tip of the spear, but still.
Sure. I was attached to MARSOC early on when they were forming the groups and recruiting from Raiders and Force Recon. I was usually attached when they needed to plus up for DMRs. Being 0317 gave me a lot of job opportunities in the early GWOT.
Anyways, we would often deploy in joint efforts with the Green Beret ODAs and almost always it was the tertiary POGs that were the most gung ho assholes. They'd always let you know how smart they were and how stupid the government was for letting all the fat purple hairs into the general ranks. This guy was the POGest of POGs as he was a glorified drone operator. I have doubts he ever left the FOB.
SOF/SF tier one units are filled with embezzling wife beaters who deal fent. I've rubbed shoulders with plenty of them. Plenty of them who rotate back to civ div end up robbing banks and selling their training services to militias. It's the perfect setup for domestic terrorism.
But it's not psyops that is turning these vets. Green Berets are basically military advisors for partisan forces. They don't do psyops. What's radicalizing these vets is the same shit that radicalized your grandparents and parents. Daily Wire, InfoWars and Joe Rogan.
Why is there no mention of the term suicide bomber?
Suicide Arsonist at best.
All of the shooters and this guy have been trump fans. That's the thing about patriotism. If you use it as rhetoric but attack the foundation, the rah rah patriots tend to want to blow your head off.
Say what you will about the right wing lunatics, they are at least actively trying to take down the establishment. We leftist draw signs and bitch online 😑 me included
Speak for yourself. If you're doing nothing, that's on you.
Look at Palestine Action in the UK, who have written off weapons factories. That's doing far more to take down 'the establishment' than a poorly-executed suicide bombing. Look at environmentalists sabotaging coal infrastructure, or even Cop City actions. Look at the unions sabotaging the police in my own city.
At least you don't get downvoted for saying it anymore, more progress!
Man, ex- trump fans really really want trump dead
Wonder why...
Or some of his supporters are impressionable
I wonder if it has anything to do with all the calls for violence against Trump.
Remember when people burned effigies of Obama when he got elected? Pastors around the country hung dark colored dummies with nooses? Do you remember that?
Nah you don't otherwise you wouldn't have made up evidence to try and support your claim.EDIT: I misspoke, you didnt even attempt to provide evidence, just a baseless claim.
“He loved Trump, and he was always a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American,”
Yeah. Reading the rest of the article (not that I trust the press these days) his version of being an “American Patriot” is “fuck everyone I hate, they can burn” and he really wanted Trump to do that for him. President Musk getting in the way really pissed him off when he finally realized that Trump is just another spineless, vain, wealthy narcissist that DGAF about him.
And none of the current Trump supporters will believe that he was Trump supporter or that he had planned this attack. They will instead believe that he was murdered by the deep state.
trump is literally about to be president of the most powerful country in the world with a Red SCOTUS & Congress. Yet, if anything bad happens, MAGA will say it’s the deep state.
It's obviously too early to say the motive with 100% accuracy. But based on the timing of the event, and the Trump/Musk connection. It would seem like a Trump supporter who felt betrayed about the H1B visa thing.
Fucking dumb coward and a dipshit trump voter. Look how dumb you redhats look with trump sucking the brown off the autistic slave owner musk's ass. We have Luigi the fucking stud ceo blaster and yall are a clown car full of traitors and ghouls
Damn, I don’t think you like trump supporters 😂
'big' Trump supporter
I mean.. let's be honest here, he did drive 12 hours through the night to serve Trump some freshly barbecued pig.
You don't cater like that unless you're a truly big fan.
Yeehad.
Was probably mad that Musk turned out to be the actual president and not Trump.
More proof that magas are just violent psychopaths. Open more insane asylums!
It's not terrorism if they're MAGA as I understand.
Well his manifesto said it wasn’t terrorism after all. No reason to question such a fine upstanding citizen.
Not very smart if he filled it with fireworks and gasoline.
"Highly trained Green Beret" who doesn't know how to make a proper bomb.
As others have said: This was likely more about making a statement and getting attention than causing damage.
That said, it is well worth looking into the training of even "tier 1 operator" special forces. Unless their job is bomb defusal they aren't actually learning all that much. Here is some det cord and some plastic explosives. Here is a bunch of math to figure out how much you use of each and for liability purposes you'll need to get a passing grade on the written test. But the reality is that here are the common doors and walls you'll encounter and how much to use and in what shape. And if you are using this in a situation where you don't intend to murder everything on the other side? Get a professional to do it.
So it is very much possible that someone who was "an expert" on blowing out locks and even knocking holes in walls would have absolutely no idea how to make a proper car IED without having access to artillery shells and the like.
One way to think of it is that somebody could be the best F1 driver on the planet and even be able to articulate that they need the camber on their left front wing changed or whatever. But if you gave them a beat up 98 Camry that was misaligned and veered to the left? They would be just as lost as a kid who barely passed driver's ed.
Putting gasoline in your EV is a rookie mistake
It's a Cyber Truck so that's what? Two gallons of gas and a pack of sparklers?
Sooooo won't be investigated as terrorism got it..... Sigh this country is so corrupt it's not funny
I don't understand how 7 people got injured. I saw the video, there was no one nearby and the hotel windows didn't break.
Livelsberger, who died in the blast,
Actually, it's a bit more interesting. According to an article that the BBC published, he shot himself in the head while in the car. From his viewpoint, it seems that the blast was just a fancy after-effect.
"Mr Livelsberger's cause of death was suicide from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to the Clark County Coroner's office."
Something about all being domestic terrorists...
One thing I'm finding interesting: we've got the NO attack and this Trump/CT attack, happening in close temporal proximity and both hurting/killing innocents, but I'm only seeing the former labelled by the media as a "terrorist" attack. Could it, maybe, possibly, have something to do with the NO attacker potentially having an Islamic background? In contrast, a US military member, and a Trump supporter in particular, could never be awarded the "terrorist" badge by the press, "bomber" is the most he could hope to earn it seems.
I understand your sentiment, but I think it was the videos of him wanting to join ISIS and then ISIS flags in the truck with him.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/01/us/shamsud-din-jabbar-suspect-new-orleans-attack/index.html
Right, but I wasn't claiming that he wasn't seeking to spread terror for his cause, assuming that these are the facts. I'm remarking on the fact that the “big” Trump supporter and a highly trained Green Beret wasn't immediately branded a terrorist by the media just like the NO guy was, despite committing an act that was, as far as I can tell, an act of terrorism. Is it only "terrorism" if you're motivated by some kind of religious belief, and specifically, some kind of Islamic group's belief?
The media did at least have the common decency to wait until they found out the New Orleans attacker was brown before branding him a terrorist.
Got to be careful these days with so many far right lunatics on the loose.
No, it's because these Tesla vehicles are so shitty, no one can be truly 100% sure if it was intentional, or the battery just ignited some fireworks in the backseat of some idiot's truck.
I mean you can't help but think it is something to do with Elon Musk and the h1b1 Visa issue.
A veteran that supported him thinking he was "for the troops" getting fucked over by the military for something (like the VA not treating PTSD) could be a reason.
Yup, could be a veterans thing. Both these terrorists served at Fort Bragg.
In other words, what's left when a leopard eats the face off of another leopard.
A former Green Beret? Check his military records, the shit for brains must have failed the demolitions course.
Symbolism? There's no well thought out and clear symbol. It's just an asshole who thinks going up in flames "sends a message (jokerMewing.jpg)". A well thought out symbol is more like Luigi Mangione's Deny Defend Depose.
This guy was promised a good life for the simple man by the republicans and he was repeatedly backstabbed, and that made him angry. Yet he stayed with them till the end at which point he couldn't imagine himself not being the MAGA Rambo wannabe he thought himself to be. That's what angry and dumb people do.
Such a big fan he decided to give one of his hotels an impromptu fireworks display?
And the Tesla truck can't be a coincidence.
Definitely not, since it was a rental.
Isn't that what the average Trump fan has in it's trunk? Doesn't the cybertruck come automatically with that shit? Guns, a Bible and a shit ton of explosives. And a flamethrower. "For protection". Maybe he exploded prematurely, you know, again like the average Trump fan. He just wanted to sleep at the clown's hotel before he was suppose to blow up some communists. Or this is what's left from NYE, he used to have much more but he already lit that shit up. Why else would a Trump chromosome blow himself up in a Musketeer death trap in front of his favorite crimal's business?
You're thinking of a Ram.
Most right-wing redneck crazies can't afford a CyberTruck and think electric cars are for communists anyway.
and a flamethrower
It comes with a device that is functionally the same as a flamethrower, but not called a flamethrower to make it legally allowed to be owned in California.
Yeah that's what is typically American. "It's not slavery, it's forced labor during incarnation". "It's not torture, it's enhanced interrogation". "It's not an assault gun, it's protection". "It's not mass murder and war mongering, it's freedom". "It's not a war crime, they are just terrorists, or look like them, whatever".
He wasn't so big, I'm bigger than him
Called it.
Symbolism police.
“Bigly”
So is this a FAFO situation or...?
What are the odds it was an accident? It doesn't seem like there was any real purpose to it ..
The odds are pretty much nonexistent. You don’t accidentally load up an electric vehicle with a bunch of gasoline and fireworks, park it in front of a building with the incoming president’s name, rig the flammable material to ignite, and finally shoot yourself before it ignites. Supposedly his wife just broke up with him after Christmas, so perhaps he was feeling extra hopeless and wanted to do something extreme to get everyone’s attention.
I hadn't seen the bit about the gunshot wound yet. Yeah, it likely wasn't an accident.
I was thinking maybe he was planning some fireworks event and some camping and accidentally set something off.
