Seeing much more tankie from ml lately

This is my experience as well. It's also laughable that they call themselves communists and love China and Russia. Those people aren't communists, they are authoritarians.

To be fair. "that wasn't true Communism" is true. The problem is dictatorships keep getting sold with its name. Ironically proving how hard it would be to actually achieve a world or country of communes.

Oh good, this seems like a good place to ask something that's been bothering me for a while.

I see the posts from Hexbear and Lemmygrad. I can understand why they are in favour of theoretically communist regimes like China. What I can't for the life of me see is why they seem to unconditionally support modern Russia which is surely as far away from communism as you can get.

I must be missing something but not sure what?

It is a weird world where the Tankies align with Moscow Marjorie

My additions:

• “Sealioning”
• That’s all a bunch of lies, you’re just blindly linking to a mouthpiece for US imperialism like Washington Post / BBC / Wikipedia
• Links to rt.com
• The answers you seek are in this 90 minute YouTube video
• You’ve unwittingly EXACTLY PROVEN MY POINT (refuses to elaborate)

I am sure there are more

Edit: More

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• If Russia isn’t fantastic how are they winning so hard in Ukraine

"Russian special military operation in Ukraine is an anti-imperialist project."

"US military aid to Ukraine is an imperialist act."

Statements made by the utterly deranged.

Extended Version:

>thread about cakes

Tankie: This is US propaganda!

Welcome to fight night

in this corner is a poster who brought a lot* of links from sites you've never heard of! He thinks browbeating liberals with theory will help them "escape the mind prison of Western propaganda", his special power: pigshit!

Heeeeereee's TANKIE BROWN!!

crowd noises

Aaaaand in this corner!

Hailing from the mean streets of forums everywhere! He doesn't like criticism of Dems, and has the links and the time to disprove you! Special power... Derision!

IiiiiiiiiiiiiIIIIT's LIB-MASTER J!!

crowd: raaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Tonight, they'll be performing, front and center, in your thread! Whether you like it or not! Taking up all the air! Watch with horror and wonder as the same arguments are trotted out and no one learns anything! Whose ego will be bruised? Who will get "owned"? Find out tonight (and every night) on lemmy.ml!

i don't think "that wasn't true communism" belongs with the rest. saying Russia good , USSR good and China good requires you to pretend they are true communism, isn't that what tankies do?

i think this is more what actual leftie/communist people say about those countries because they think the authoritarian regimes don't reflect communism, not to mention the fact that Russia and China are capitalist countries in everything but name.

You forgot “a meme response that is barely relevant to the discussion.”

Yeah i like communism and all but can't for the life of me figure out why they like russia and china . Is it because there used to be (a kind of) communism there ? I stand for the idea of communism not the people or places that are (kinda) associated with them .

You forgot a square for circle-jerking over reading theory.

Does enemys have to be misspelled to get bingo?

I'm quick to ban communities from my feed that are political. I'm just here for the memes and tits - Not to doomscroll or argue about shit I don't understand.

"enemys"

What’s a good privacy respecting instance besides lemmy.ml? I don’t wanna be blocked from seeing content for being on .ml :(

My instance owner was bemoaning being blocked by lemmy.ml and literally all the comments are like "so? Lemmy.ml sucks dude. Don't worry about it." lol

Meh, add to your block list with hexbear, you won't miss em.

You forgot "great man theory" (i.e. any criticism of Putin or Xi) and "horseshoe theory" (i.e. any indication that left wing violence is bad).

God, I'm just so genuinely happy to see someone use the word, "Tankie," properly. A shocking number of people on .world seem to think anyone left of Joe Biden is a Tankie.

The nickname tankies is pretty funny because tanks are becoming obsolete.

It's much easier I find in .ml to just ignore the tankies tbh. Though the bingo sheet is admittedly, very funny.

"USA bad" should be the free space, because anyone with as little as half a rotten brain can identify that it's true - The US is a shithole. That does preclude conservatives, of course.

It's always really sad to see otherwise good leftist ideals held back by ML campist brain rot tbh.

The LW admins are violating their own ToS by allowing LML posts to get federated to LW.

I just wish more people would identify that too much centralization is the root problem versus pointing the finger at the opposing yet equally centralized political systems. There needs to be a balance between centralization and decentralization yet few understand this. So frustrating.

I feel like no matter what instance I go to I'm probably just going to end up disliking a large chunk of the posters, because I think after 20 years of being raised online, I just fucking hate memes straight up.

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Where do I claim my prize?

I was banned from communities there for "facism" and "nationalism".......

I'm center-left BTW.... Not "left" enough for them, it seems.......

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₁Critical support doesn't imply Russia is good

₂It didn't fall out of a coconut tree; all socialist projects exist in their historical context

₃Fucking Kruschev

Cowbee made an excellent comment in this thread that explains the confusion over Marxism-Leninism.

Edit: Here’s a direct link for those having trouble accessing.

These words also instantly make me lose respect for anyone who repeats them:

• Western imperialism
• Colonialism
• Neo-liberal

There has to be some memo that gets passed around and every ml comment is contractually obbligated to include these phrases.

Someone says: USA Bad (with proof)

USApes: It must mean they think China and Russia are good.

¿Por Qué No Los Tres?