Not even poor Notepad is safe from Microsoft's AI obsession
Not even poor Notepad is safe from Microsoft's AI obsession
Power user excavates evidence of experimental 'Cowriter' feature
You know what's free (as in beer and speech) and not being enshittified? Notepad++
Fun fact: Most of the features that people liked about the "new" Windows notepad were just stolen from Notepad++ anyway.
So you may as well just use Notepad++ and enjoy a better experience, plus about a zillion other things like numerous plugins, syntax highlighting for just about every programming language under the sun, immensely configurable color schemes, etc., etc., etc.
This is not enshittification. Here's where the term came from:
Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die. I call this enshittification
In what way is adding an AI assistant to Notepad either "abusing their users" or "abusing their business customers?" It seems like it's just a useful new feature to me, that's still in the "be good to your users" phase.
They're sacrificing the utility of the tool to make it part of their new AI-driven operating system as a service platform. The only thing notepad had going for it was its complete simplicity, reliability, and speed. Nobody wants notepad to try to rope you into this ecosystem, certainly not at the expense of those qualities.
Even with the recent updates, I'm over it. Notepad has crashed on me at least twice. Notepad. Crashed. There is no longer any reason to use it.
I like Cory Doctorow. I think his theory of enshittification is useful, but I find his definition flawed.
- Why is it limited to platforms? Can't enshittification apply to other things like applications?
- Are business customers really required or can that step be skipped?
- The platforms dying thing isn't what we are seeing. For example, Amazon is absolutely enshittified. They're not dead. More like undead, continuing to shamble on consuming everything.
I still give credit to Cory for being an acute observer and coming up with a useful theory.
Adding an AI seems OK but per the article it will do it similar to Paint Co-creator. I can already see those types of "features" will get promoted more and more in updates and take more part of the screen.
Microsoft will want revenue trickling in from Notepad of all places...
AI assistants usually need to upload the data to process it. So it's potential enshitification via adding data upload/harvesting features to a trusted offline text editor. Usually companies have ways to generate revenue streams based on the data from these "free and useful features". Adverts based on what text files you open might be the long term end goal.
Leaks of company secrets will increase.
What about privacy and bloat? Do you really need an integrated big-brother Clippy again? There's a reason they got rid of that annoying little bugger 20-ish years ago. Even killed Cortana. How many failed experiments more do we need?
If you need AI writing, you have it in Edge or on the ChatGPT site. Will they add AI to settings to help you turn on all the bloat and tracking for you?
Like just give me my damn control panel which has a working search feature (unlike, say, Settings)
Unfff pump my veins full of Notepad++. I wanna feel the autosaving tabs course through me. I need that tabbed indenting experience. AAAAAAAAAAA
And it's great that it exists, but the average Windows user has no idea that exists and probably no idea how to download and install it because the average Windows user, like the average computer user, is only nominally computer literate.
Those are the people Microsoft constantly fucks over, not people here who tend to know what they're doing. A large percentage of people here don't even use Windows except maybe through an emulator.
LiteXL is also pretty good.
SublimeText is a much better alternative
Not open source
I know it's dumb but I was always a bit disappointed that Microsoft overhauled Paint in Windows 11 with layers and polish. To me, paint is always that terrible pre-packaged program that makes bad art. There was a community around making things in paint, which was noticeably impressive because making decent art in paint is a nightmare.
Now that it's actually fairly good... I don't know, it's lost its charm.
Its not actually good, and many actually good art programs far outshine it.
So its lost what made it unique, by being comedically bad, and become the death knell of most things in a capital focused system; mundane.
My primary use case for MS Paint is its almost non-existent system usage, to quickly crop screenshots or strip metadata from files. Paint.net handles almost every other use. Same rationale for Notepad and stripping formatting from copied text. Bloat the program with ‘value added USP features’ to compete with actual image editing software, and I’m out.
Microsoft saw how the Apple ecosystem lock-in has benefited them long term, and made big pushes to ‘improve’ their first party software and close the ecosystem to the Microsoft store. Vanilla Windows fresh off an install throws all kind of “You sure? Like for real sure?” UAC warnings popups at any executable, while seamlessly processing their App Store use. Zero-low literacy users want that kind of UI/UX and Microsoft sees money to be made funneling them towards first-party and ‘partner’ software
honestly it's not even that bad, it's notepad picture edition - I sometimes use it when I want to draw something fast to get my point across, small graphs that are easier to show than explain in text, objects I'm trying to describe but failing etc.
Together with notepad, paint gives you the "pen and a napkin" experience of the digital world.
I can understand and get behind this sentiment. At an old job we had iMacs and I would use Apple’s numbers program to make pixel art in the tables by coloring each cell.
I think it tries to be paint.net to some extent, I am absolutely fine with that, although it will never beat its clean, simple design.
I love Paint because when shit started hitting the fan in windows, Microsoft's neglect actually elevated Paint to the best stock program on there. It's the only image viewer I use on windows because it opens instantly and takes practically zero resources. Even large images can be opened faster than the crappy calculator, which is still the same calculator from Windows 8 by the way. I hope they never touch paint again.
Watch them adding AI to paint at some point.
They already have...
Notepad++, GET YOUR FOSS ON PEOPLE!
https://notepad-plus-plus.org/
If you're not using it, then you're going to be extremely happy when you switch!
I liked the tab support being added and use notepad for a bunch of basic bitch shiz, but notepad++ is going full time if they start bogging it down with crap.
People should use Vim. It's tons better and very user friendly.
https://github.com/jdhao/nvim-config#features
Highly recommend this.
A modern Neovim configuration with full battery for Python, Lua, C++, Markdown, LaTeX, and more...
This is enough to get the intellisense and linters up and running. Only takes ~5 minutes to configure by installing prerequisites, it's worth it though.
VIM is for people who need crutches - Vi is where it's at. Or maybe LaTex I don't know.
But I do heartily endorse Notepad++.
There's KDE Kate as well, but I only use that for scripting purpose.
SublimeText is a much superior alternative. Notepad++ is like being stuck in the 2000s
Sublime is not FOSS
Paying for a text editor, who doesn't like that?
It's free and is functional. What more could you want
I always thought that my local use of a plain text editor should use a lot of CPU power (and electricity) in a huge data center.
Your owners gotta know what you're doing at all times eh. Can't leave notepad out of the
trackingeco system
Personally, I'm boycotting Microsoft until they bring back Clippy.
I saw clippy the first time when I was a kid. To be honest I remember my interactions with it quite fondly.
I'm afraid adults weren't as fond.
I have to use Teams for work and there are Clippy stickers!
Bring back clippy. "I see you want a barebones, simple text editor. Let me ruin that for you."
Been a Windows user for a really long time. A few times I tried to switch over to Linux, but it just wasn't doable for a myriad of reasons. Windows 11, I have words with it. Many bad ones, but thankfully there are many users like me that for one reason or another did not switch and put time in to beat the badness out of it via mods.
Windows 12... I'm not so sure if I'll even "upgrade" to it. It really depends on how much Microsoft decides to wire up the OS to their servers. Look, I wouldn't mind at all if I could have "smart" tools with AI assistance, but the problem for me is the lack of choice. Currently, if you don't use their crap software, what mostly travels over the wire is telemetry, and if you go offline no harm done. But make no mistake, useful AI models are too fat to run on most computers. Heck I built mine with AI in mind, but will Microsoft even give me the choice of using my own AIs? (Here's a hint, it starts with N, has a V and ends with an R)
But what if the OS starts requiring it to be online only because of their AI features? Maybe we'll have to start paying for Windows again in subscriptions to pay for the obligatory AI? Or what about scrubbing options away from the settings so you can't "misuse" your own device and have to ask nicely to their AI to do it for you?
There is a road here, and I do not like it. Thank goodness Linux is better than it has ever been.
PS: As for the notepad thing, I'm completely in agreement that it should remain without AI. Such a simple tool for scribbling down notes should be kept lean, simple and fast. Things that Microsoft and their engineers have long forgotten how to do.
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Microsoft is not a creative company!
LEAVE NOTEPAD ALONE!
seriously though. I can't imagine anything I'd rather have be more basic than notepad. It's entire literal existence is to open, edit and save basic text files. There's zero need for additional features or updates.
I mean, I don't even see their precious AI in office yet, and they're getting hard over adding it to fucking notepad? I expected an AI powered clippy to return to office before this shit.
Throws table
I like the typical plaintext editors you get with any Linux distro, which can do stuff like syntax highlighting but are still light and fast.
I use notepad++ on Windows it's great.
Imma keep using Wordpad
I don't use Windows since 2018 but.....
Now do paint. Or even more useless: calculator.
No need to "fix" notepad. It does what it has to. If you're a power user, you can download something else. But I'll bet it won't have Ai in it.
Why the fuck would I ever want AI in my calculators? Even Algebra never required AI in the past
You don't want reasonably written, believable, factually dubious answers from your calculator?
I wouldn't mind a bit of wolfram alpha
They sure fucked up SwiftKey
They already did both of those. Paint has layers now and calculator got worse because they decided to split everything up into different modes which is a pain when you want to do hex conversions but also do non-truncated division, especially because it resets the history and storage when switching modes.
It seems to me like these apps are being redesigned by people who don't use the features, or maybe with the primary design goal of reducing support calls from people who have no clue what they are doing.
Well, MS has been supporting paint.net for a while now. It's kinda like MS Paint but not completely terrible.
(Psst: get as far away from microsoft as you can, and don’t look back!)
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The feature is not immediately accessible in any current Windows Insider build, however, enterprising users have ways and means to delve into the operating system and haul out experiments that are not yet ready to see the light of day.
A pop-up menu titled "Cowriter" is visible, with options to tweak the format and content of the text.
Microsoft has been hard at work ruining updating Notepad in recent years.
Its GUI was updated with the introduction of Dark Mode, and tab support turned up in 2023.
Something else could have been added to Notepad instead of AI but hey gotta ride the hype train."
AI in Notepad, as shown in the screenshots, does not seem to make much sense – we're sure the wise Register readership could think of something more appropriate for the editor.
The original article contains 364 words, the summary contains 136 words. Saved 63%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
The irony of this comment on this post is striking!
The bot's actually not AI powered, but uses Sumy to algorithmically create a summary.
Is there a LibreOffice alternative?
org-mode?orgymode?
Could use Wordpad (outdated word that’s free)
Linuxes come with text editors (almost always vim, and usually a GUI one like Gedit). But they aren't part of LibreOffice, just as Notepad isn't part of MS Office.
WPS Office, is from a chinese company but it works pretty good with Microsoft Office files
riddled with ads.
Not seeing anyone recommend Sublime Text here. It's free for non commercial use and is fucking kickass and doesn't look like it came out of the 80's like NP++
The more I look at modern UIs, which seem to have decided the best way to use the metric crapload of screen space a modern PC has is with gratuitious whitespace, the more I like 1990s UIs.
Sure, totally get you there, but part of what I like about Sublime is that the interface is clean, no buttons everywhere, nothing obtrusive, its just a text editor that packs a punch and has a lot of community built plug-ins to do whatever you may need.
Personally I could never use a text editor that is free and not open source (Aside from built-in editors). For simpler stuff like config files etc I use Kate which looks nice, has syntax highlighting and is cross platform. For more complicated stuff I like VSCodium. Both are well maintained, and work great.
We all have our preferences, I just happen to love Sublime
Hey! Don't bash things that lol like they come out of the eighties!
Cries middle ages tears
Notepads gang, rise up!
I want my notepad to open in split second so I can jot down my thoughts when I'm in a rush so I don't forget things. or so I can copy multiple things, edit them slightly and paste them where I want them to be. or so I can pre-write a paragraph to send shortly without appearing as "this user is typing" to everyone as I rewrite a sentence for the 5th time, and to not fear accidentally hitting enter mid said paragraph.
I do not need my notepad to have AI. It's not broken, stop trying to fix things that aren't broken
Why not?
I don't understand all the negativity. An integrated AI assistant in a text editor sounds like it could be amazing.
It sounds awful. The draw of notepad is its simplicity. I wish software companies would stop ruining their good versions of popular software.
We haven't seen how this feature will be implemented yet, it could be done without impacting the simplicity of Notepad.
Personally, what I'd like is a button that pops open a side window where I could either ask the AI questions about the text that's currently in Notepad or tell it to make edits to the text, and it'll just do that. Seems like it could be perfectly straightforward if it's something along these lines, and if you don't want to use the feature you just don't.