“You like summer so much? Go stand on a blacktop fully clothed and tell me you love it.”
No, winter is nice for the warmness in the face of the harsh environment, enjoying the coolness on walks/etc. Summer is nice because we have respite from it in the form of a/c and shade and cool water. The hotness sucks just like the coldness. Our ability to survive in those temperatures are intrinsically linked to our enjoyment of them.
Yeah, it's far too expensive in hot weather to get proper indoor conditions for a fire, a blanket, and hot tea -- if you can manage it at all. I'm not sure if it's just a matter of poor insulation that allows for those conditions or what, but I couldn't properly replicate them in my house.
When it's too hot you aren't always able to get cooler.
When it's too cold it is always possible to get warmer. If only in a small way.
In the middle of winter you can put on another layer, wear fuzzy socks, drink a nice warm drink, hell even just blow into your hands. But in the middle of summer sometimes you just have to suffer.
I fucking love winter and no one can take that from me
Read "To Build a Fire." I've been in places that cold, thankfully never lost in the woods. There are definitely places that you absolutely cannot get warmer no matter how many layers you put on.
Thankfully I now live in a place that it literally cannot get too hot or too cold.
Layers alone don't do the trick. You need to move to generate heat in the first place. Once it drops below -20/-25C, you can pretty much only be still if you're in a good sleeping bag.
Assuming we're talking about outdoors, that's not the case for me in my area. There's only so much layers can do. You have to limit exposure. Plus all those layers can be a chore. By comparison, while summer heat can be uncomfortable, it's rarely deadly and far easier to stay safe.
I beg to differ. I've literally lived outside in < -30C, over time, without much more equipment than my clothes, a hammock, and a gas burner to boil water.
You have a limit to exposure, of course, but it's not a limit you can't comfortably overcome with relatively simple equipment (read: layers).
This is very dependent on where you live, and to an extent how rich you are. If you live somewhere where it occasionally gets a bit hot but it often gets so cold you need to spend a lot on heating then you probably prefer summer. Vice versa for somewhere so hot you need to pay for air conditioning.
Or live in northern europe where it can be -30C in the winter and +30C in summer. Still prefer winter, -30 is fine with enough layers, +30 is fucking miserable.
I just moved to Miami last month, after living in NJ and NYC all my life. I always thought the opportunity to put on more but being able to only take off so much was the better option, not anymore.
I was down in South Beach in August, and yeah, it's fucking brutally hot but at least everything is built for that weather down there most places aren't designed for the recent temperature swings in the Northeast. It was just about as bad in NJ as Miami this summer but it wasn't every day and only lasts about 2 months, instead of 6 months.
I just came back to NJ today and it's like 45-50 degrees (F) and pouring rain, meanwhile it was 80 and sunny in Miami, but not really that humid. I'll happily take walking around in shorts and a T-shirt any day of the week (literally) over having to wear a heavy jacket just to go out to your car and drive somewhere.
You see, if it gets colder I can put on more clothes, if it gets hotter then I have to take stuff off and you can only get naked to a point before you have to start ripping your skin off and then you gotta wait for it to grow back.
When I was a kid, I bundled up and went out in a -80F wind chill blizzard, just to say I did it. I almost got lost on the street in front of my own house. As an adult, I love going out in snowstorms in the car to pull people out of ditches. Doesn't matter what car I happen to have at the time. A few years ago, I went out on my motorcycle when it was 18F, again, just to say I did it.
Yeah ngl it's pretty fun to tool about helping people get unstuck. We haven't had a really good blizzard in years though. :( Snow-bashing on a 4x4 trail, the two times I did it, was a fun way to spend several hours going a few hundred feet.
People be like “I love sunshine” from earth under an atmosphere with a cap and sunglasses while sitting under a shady tree. No. Go walk on the actual sun and like it. Let’s see.
Try going outside where the heat and humidity feels like a actual physical wall and weight on you, with the sun burning your skin and no breez and tell me you like summer.
All the extremes suck. Fuck that shit why can't we be team spring/fall?
Not to mention that there are also quite a lot of people like me who already spend most of winter outside and not caring. People like op are just week panzies who can't stand a bit of adversity, that never heard of temp regulation.
Challenge accepted, let's go. I'll pack a thermos full of piping hot coffee and a nice jacket, let's take a walk in nature and appreciate how even though you can hear everything, it's still quiet.
This is one of the reasons why I've loved my last few homes. They've all been close enough to the woods to see and hear the wildlife, but close enough to the Brecon Beacons / Bannnau Brecheiniog that I can be there in less than 20 minutes, and enjoying a Dark Skies site.
But.....you can sit under a blanket in fuzzy socks in summer and read a book and be warm. The weather doesn't make that "more fun". Just turn up the AC? (in the US mostly, if you don't have ac you will probably just not wear fuzzy socks)
The person described is an Inside person. I agree. I'd like staying inside too, doesnt matter if it's -3°F or 98°F out.
The best part about winter is that no one else is outside. You get to walk around and breath in the crisp air and just enjoy the world. No people, no problems
I've tried winter camping twice. Both times I was cold, wet, and miserable the entire time. Cold, wet, and miserable are things that I try to avoid, not seek out.
Winter camping can be pretty hard but with practice you can really enjoy it. Its a balance of adjusting layers based on temperature and activity level and changing your layers as needed when sweaty or wet.
Also you need a pretty good sleeping pad alongside the warm blankets/sleeping bag.
Yeah, late Spring, Summer, or early Fall camping is a lot more enjoyable than being freezing cold during Winter. Dragging out tons of gear just to keep yourself from literally freezing to death isn't that fun IMO.
Unless you live in a place like NYC. It's still cold as shit, but you have to be outside in order to get anywhere. Putting on an arctic level jacket just to walk to the subway, and then having to take it off because the subway car is 70F but then having to put it back on when you get outside because it's freezing cold, but then having to unzip it while walking around because you've built up body heat and it's stupid humid out, even though it's like 25F is just flat out annoying. Also, once you get to your destination there's no place to put your coat.
Being out in fresh snow in a desolate area is definitely captivating though.
There are two things I love about winter. Needing to fight to stay warm and getting automatically cooled when working. Seriously in winter you need to be proactive to stay warm.
Yeah, if you have an active job it's great, if you're something like a crossing guard it sucks. I work in IT and we had two ACs in my office: one for the whole office and one just for our room because during the day there could be 10-12 people in there with 24 monitors on and 12 PCs running. During the night shift it was 2 people 2 PCs and 4 monitors max. We couldn't turn off either AC. My coworker and I would literally sit there with winter jackets and gloves on because we were so damn cold. I ended up figuring how to use an Allen Wrench to turn down the room AC using the wall panel.
Love it. Nice two hour walks in light snow, shorts on, bit of Portishead or The Cure on the headphones.
And the best bit is, no fucker else around.
I'd sympathise with those that like warmer weather, but I went to Tenerife for a week and spent every day dead from heat. And it stank. You got your shit, I got mine.
I actually like being out in the cold., especially camping in negatives (under 273°K) or snow. I spent most of my life beach bumming in the subtropics and after adjusting to the initial climate change, find winter in an alpine environment much easier than summer in subtropics.
In the cold you can just put another layer on or go inside and it's refreshing. As opposed heat where you're naked, but that's it you can't remove anymore, and the massive dehumidifier/aircon somehow can't keep up, the town water's gone warm so a cold shower doesn't help much. You just wait for around 5:00pm when the daily massive storm rolls through dumping back down everything the day sucked up, leaving the roads steaming so much you can't see, and giving the sun a last 90 mins to suck it all back up again for a bit of nighttime humidity and the impossibility of sleep.
I have tried to sleep in 46°C with high humidity and I've slept like a baby camping in -11°C dug in snow.
I just moved down to Miami last month. I know it's going to be brutal come May/June (I was just down there in August) but I've spent the last 38 years in the North East and having to put on a winter jacket and gloves just to sit in your car and drive somewhere while waiting for the heater to work gets old after a while. At least a lot of the places in the South (or at least the newer cities in Florida) are built for the heat, meanwhile the NE wasn't built for recent climate change. This summer was just as bad as Miami many days in a row, I was staying at my parents 100+ year old house in NJ (which doesn't have central air) and even with the window AC cranked down to 63 I'd wake up sweating because it was 80-90% humidity in my room.
My dads company has been trying to move south for a while and my dad's been one of the few that refuses to move south. As a result he finds himself having a lot of southern coworkers and when he debate of why you love the north so much. This is what he always brings up.
i like winter specifically because i get to wear winter clothing which is such a vibe, people need to learn to dress better.
tight-fitting wool underclothes, fluffy middle layers, and a cloak on top to block wind. cozy as fuck and you barely notice the low temperature and you don't get sweaty either.
If I try doing any of that in the summer either I die of heat stroke or I die of starvation (because I can no longer afford food because of how much I'm spending on AC).
Put me out in the cold, I love the cold! Coldness is kind of a state of mind. Obviously there comes a point where being too cold is dangerous, but I find I can think myself out of being bothered by low temps.
I think it's the Norwegians who have a saying something like, "there is no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothes for the weather". I have a lovely Kangol jacket which keeps me warm in cold environments (and sweaty everywhere else)
I've come to a decision recently that even if I prefer winter, winter is the wrong best month. And so is summer.
Both arguments are right. I don't want to sweat my junk off and I shouldn't be happy to pay extortionate bills to be comfy. There are two other seasons where it's not extreme. One for people who like plants and one for people who like the colour orange.
Weirdly I'm surprised that they aren't more popular since they are the sign the apex of your discomfort, whether that be cold or hot, is over.
People be like "I love winter!" from their living room under a heated blanket with some cozy socks on and sipping hot tea. No. Go outside and like it. Let's see.