Pelosi will seek reelection
Pelosi will seek reelection
The move would extend her 36-year House career and continue to freeze her would-be California successors in a long-standing holding pattern.
The move would extend her 36-year House career and continue to freeze her would-be California successors in a long-standing holding pattern.
As an unabashed liberal and Dem party voter: enough is enough. Let the future get started already.
She is too old to run again. Like Biden, Trump, many others passed retirement age. Let go of power and enjoy your retirement.
Always nice when all my reps are backwards boomer jackasses that don't make any attempt to represent me or my generation. I wish all congresspersons be forced to retire and prevented from reelection when they reach a certain age.
Yeah she's 83 years old and could be worth $170 million. I think a normal person at some point would just want to take it easy a live their life for a bit. IMO it's kind of ghoulish to have all these 70+ year olds still power-tripping just for the sake of it.
Like Strom Thurmond, who left the Senate in 2003 at 100 years old, and then pretty much died immediately afterwards.
Imagine being so rich you can go do whatever you want for the rest of your days, and choosing more work. Wtf?! What is wrong with these people? I'd be kicking it on a beach if I had their money and was retirement age
McConnell.
That's the thing. People in power never let go voluntarily.
You know what's funny, George Washington, the OG, did. Wish they could follow his example since we're all taught to masturbate our rock-hard patriotism to the founding fathers in school.
With someone like Feinstein, I think the argument against them is that their age has reduced their ability to do their job effectively. Pelosi still seems pretty effective to me for what she tries to do. My issue with her is that she's not very progressive. You could make an argument that that's a function of age, but Bernie Sanders, who also seems effective but is for sure progressive, is 82.
I've never had a problem with someone doing any job at any age as long as they are effective. I manage a software engineering team, and my best, sharpest developer - the one most everyone goes to for help - is around 80. He loves what he does and my whole team is better with him on it. I've known other people who declined at a much earlier age.
So I hate setting an artificial age limit, but I wish we had some kind of test out performance measure that would force people out who can't do the job.
How else would she get all those hot stock tips?
How much is enough for these people? I have always told myself if I won the lottery, I could live comfortably on 10 million no problem for the rest of my days with my wife and kids. What causes these people to just want more and more instead of just chilling out and enjoying what they have already? Why would you want to run again at her age? Go enjoy retirement!
When some old lady is found with a house full of junk from floor to ceiling we call that a mental disorder. When rich folk do the same with money it's just capitalism at work.
Narcissism, mainly.
For some it is never, ever enough.
For them, too much is not enough.
I live in her district. I will attend campaign speeches yelling, “Let younger generations have a turn!”
I also live in her district and will be voting for her again. Her incredible record of making high return investments shows good judgment that I just can’t argue with, even if she is more of a radical leftist than I’m normally comfortable with.
record of making high return investments shows her good judgement
she is more of a radical leftist than I’m normally comfortable with
Lmao what the fuck dude? She’s a neoliberal, which is absolutely not aligned with “radical leftism” (a label that she absolutely, categorically does not fit). And her investment success just shows that insider trading is an effective strategy, nothing more.
Everyone getting wooshed here even down the the name
Will these stubborn old fucks just retire and disappear into wine country or something? You are creating a world you won't have to deal with the consequences of and the longer you hold onto power the less experience the next generation of leaders can attain and will ultimately weaken your party and has already weakened the country. Go. The. Fuck. Away. You. Old. Cunts.
It's time for nationwide term limits. You get to serve your term and do what you'd like, then give the reins over to the next person. Sick of all these fucking old ghouls who cling onto their positions of power like it's a fucking philosophers stone for them.
I'd be ok with at least an age cap. No one can run after they're 65. Leave governing to those who will be alive to see the impact of their policies.
The problem with an age cap is that us younger generations are going to be the first beneficiaries of life extension medicine. We'd need to remove/raise the age cap almost immediately.
I fully expect some of my generation to break 120 and still be as spry as a 40 year old. We'll be the outliers and guinea pigs, but I view the potential benefits as worth it.
Don’t shoot the messenger guys, I just share the articles
Bang.
Ouch
Yeah, like you’re not on her campaign? /s
Someone needs to AOC her. They have primaries, right? It shouldn't be a given that she will be the nominee.
She has too much name recognition and not enough unfavorables for this approach to work. She shouldn't run and if she wins she'll be a lucky to be as coherent as McConnell by the end, but I don't think a primary challenge will work against her. Hope I'm wrong.
Could not agree more, and I'm going to start calling someone getting primary'd from the left as getting AOC'd.
She did not oppose her ability to trade in the stock market despite enacting laws that helped enrich her estate.
I am a very liberal person. She did a lot of good, but I absolutely would not want to see her keep her position.
That and I'd rather see someone ~36 years old fill the seat than someone whose had it for 36 years.
There are zero politicians who don’t own stock. I really don’t understand why she’s held to some special standard on this specific issue
VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Such a small amount of people decide who ends up on the ballot. And an overwhelming majority of incumbents get reelected due to primaries.
Please please please vote! Even if you like the person in the lead, consider voting for someone who might not win but will send a message to the party that their policies need to be folded into the party platform, etc.
Voting can’t fix this, it’s systemic. The Democratic Party will not allow challengers source to their flow of money. A mass movement is required to clip their wings.
What you just said though contradicts itself. At the end of the day voting en masse for reform is "a mass movement". Things won't change when these politicians feel comfortable. Voting against them and being vocal about this as an issue will scare them. Voting absolutely works and all this rhetoric around "voting can't fix this" is exactly how we end up with this bullshit. Boomers learned decades ago how effective voting can be at changing everything and they have consistently turned out and shaped society around their needs as a result. If young people could get this through their heads then shit would actually change. Especially since millennials and gen z now make up the majority of the voting age population in the US.
This is what irritates me when people don't get it. Constantly seeing shit about Feinstein like "CaLiFoRniAnS VoTeD foR hER!" But when it comes to national elections, all of a sudden everyone is capable of seeing how imbalanced those are, because if they didn't they would have to hold themselves responsible for 2016 by their own logic.
There won't be a single dollar given to anyone by the dnc to anyone but her. The obstruction power of the controlling party apparatus will get focused like a laser on any opponent who has any chance at all. You're only a Democrat if the money people say you are, and you're only their choice if you can help the oligarchy keep their money.
She'll be the only person with any chance to get on the ticket until she dies.
Just retire already. Her seat is in no danger of going to a Republican and I’m tired of seeing these walking corpses making decisions for us.
They have learned nothing from what happened with RBG. Or they don’t care (probably more likely)
Not sure what this has to do with SCOTUS?
I’m just sayin RBG dying on trumps watch caused a ton of problems. They can retire gracefully on their terms and bring in fresh blood that isn’t bat shit crazy. It’s a similar situation we are in with fienstien and now the republicans are even in with McConnell.
It has a lot to do with SCOTUS. She decides to hold her position for as long as she lives and when she dies there won't be any other candidate. This leads to a president or some clever figure to decide to send "their guy" to replace them and as such leads to the rights of many being removed. I mean that's how MTG got in really and here we are with Roe V. Wade being demolished and every red state under the sun taking away women's rights. All thanks to our brave hero RGB.
The lesson that geriatric politicians need to/should retire before they die in office.
Don't be like Feinstein where people have to question your health and be ignobly forced out. Leave on a high note.
Like 90% of Congress and the Supreme Court are already there, man. Rapidly approaching senility and still no fucks given, "just keep the party going till i drop dead!" energy.
Her high note was 30+ years ago when she was up to calling for a floor vote on single payer health care. She's been a corporate funded centerist piece of work, stuffing democrats pockets with bribes for decades.
Why do these people want to continue in these leadership roles? It must be power and the attention seeking lifestyle., right? She is way too old. She would never be hired for a critical role outside of government. Move on and set age limits on our Country’s leadership roles.
At this point, the highest levels of our government are mainly just filled with folks seeking power and money (not always the same thing, so I think it bears mentioning both). They may have started off at the bottom with different intentions, but at this point, I doubt Pelosi is running with the intention that she would best execute the Democratic Party's agenda (and having an agenda is not a bad thing, I feel like people make that a dirty word, so felt the need to clarify in advance).
She's not supporting the democratic voter's wishes at all, but the democratic party is entirely run by third way neocon oligarchs.
She's the most reliable corporatist they have.
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Shoo. Go away. Let younger people run!
Gross
These power hungry assholes need to be removed. Why can't voters just do the appropriate thing here? This isn't a party thing, it's a 'bitch is gonna die on the house floor' thing.
Same for Mitch even though he stole his election and Feinstein. They're all fucking awful.
Because the 2 party system means we'd get an even bigger freak in office. I hate pelosi and feinstein and they will never get my vote, but its a little better than whatever Larry Elder type they'd get to run against them.
Like it matters anyway. You can vote however you like, doesn't matter as long as the people counting them are bought and paid for ahead of time.
It's wild to me that when she lost/left Speaker of the House she said (paraphrasing) that is was time to let the younger generation lead yet here she is again....
she said (paraphrasing) that it was time to let the younger generation lead
(Bold added for emphasis.)
Apparently she was parsing words.
Why is that wild? They all lie as a core part of their job, they’ll say whatever it takes.
These are the same people that make decisions on policy and then go trade stocks based on the future results of said decisions
Jfc. It's literally impossible for these geriatric people to give up power.
We're really going to have to wait for these people to die in office to get rid of them, aren't we? From both parties
Congress is the new zombie apocalypse
I am so fucking sick of this gerontocracy. All these demented drooling old fucks need to clear out and leave guiding the future to people who still have one.
Such a dry sponge
FFs really? Just move on and start on OF already.
Shocker.
Goddammit
I love Nancy Pelosi, but it's not like her district is in danger of falling into the hands of Republicans if she doesn't run. Just enjoy retirement and your family and the rest of your life. You've done well and you've done enough.
Our government is literally going to die naturally. We don't need war.
I feel like we need to reboot everything.
just leave us alone already
We do legitimately have a gerontocracy problem and this doesn't help, but at the same time as long as she's capable of doing the job I can't in good conscience object either. She's not only capable, she's very good at it.
Good morning.. Sunday morning..
I don’t think she is too old to run again,
I think she needs to the step the hell down, her 36 years have been terrible for the country and the Democrat party and the stuff she and her daughter are doing to Feinstein is just disgusting.
I agree, as much as I don't like old politicians as a rule of thumb because by and large that's where the problems are, but my bigger problem is Nancy stopped representing the people a long time ago and now more closely represents shareholder and investors, like herself and her husband.
I don’t event think it’s about investors or shareholders anymore, just Pelosi loves the expression of power, not legislative power, but her immense soft power and understand she needs to be at DC to use it or she lose it
"Democrat party"
Thanks for the subtle clue.
Okay, what ever you say
I think she's too old to run rather than walk.
I don't really care much about her age. Sure, she's old and should probably retire soon, but she's been an effective representative and shows no signs of mental decline. I'm fine with her having one more term if she's capable, and if she has to retire before completing it, a Democratic governor will appoint her replacement.
We've all had fairly recent object lessons that youth isn't everything anyway, with the combination clown-and-shit-show on the right. I'd much rather have Pelosi stay than, say, George Santos or Lauren Boebert, and they're both half her age.
The problem with your scenario is that she is in a democratic strong hold. A Boebert or Santos cannot possibly win but a younger, more progressive and truly representative candidate could win. She's preventing that progress by holding onto power till they can't weekend at Nancy's her corpse anymore.
The problem with your scenario is that you have another young person that is really enthusiastic about changing everything but doesn't know how anything works and can't get anything done. You may love people like AOC, but what legislation has she actually gotten passed?
Pelosi knows how the system works and knows how to actually get legislation passed. Sure if you're young it feels like compromise is selling out, but it's at least something. Saying a lot while doing nothing gets internet likes, but it's not actually progress. It's just talk and political theater.
If the Democrats win the House the new Speaker will benefit from the many years of experience that Pelosi has. That is if you want legislation that will actually improve things instead of just talk.
