At this point being banned might be a good thing to drive home the point that also my favorite of the old corporate internet platforms should be avoided. I'm doing quite okay on staying away from Meta and have long deleted my Twitter account. I can't get myself do drop Reddit somehow. Seems like they're only helping me get off my addiction
My link for this was deleted. Huh. I didn't see this earier.
Anyways I think this is a dangerous chilling effect and reddit has a terrible track record for not using this as intended, so I can only expect Reddit Admins to use this beyond warning, I expect bans and this used in warrants/NSLs quickly.
Stop using reddit, stop going to reddit. And bring everyone you can to Lemmy. I want to be able to cut out my city subreddits like /r/Denver like a clean shit.
Reminds me of back in 2013 when Reddit admins accidentally revealed that Eglin Air Force Base, a location often cited as the source of government social-media propaganda/astroturfing programs, was the most Reddit addicted city in the world.
To be fair, every Air Force base had higher than average Reddit usage back in the day. It was one of the few websites not blocked by default. I don't know when that changed, Because I was out before then.
Yeah I got signaled on reddit for saying something about Trump, Elon and Vance regarding to Ukraine. Nothing that hasn't been said, but I said they can fuck off and stop propping Russian imperialism and kidnapping children while commiting warcrimes. Guess Reddit is against that as they removed my comment and gave me a warning.
Also biased admins, there are places that are manipulated for disinformation purposes. It is kind of scary, when the sceptical view point gets deleted or thread blocked for no other reason than harming their often made up narrative.
Edit. Thread blocked as in you are blocked from posting and they can have a last rotten cherry on top
First the removesort by controversial, and then you can't even see controversial posts. Soon there will be no conflicting opinions, just a hive mind echo chamber.
I'm glad that I don't use Reddit and have no intention on doing so. I remember there was a very talented artist who was wrongfully accused of using AI and banned on the art subreddit. That artist got banned even though receipts were shown to the mods proving the art was not AI, and I guess with this policy, I'd be at risk of being banned from Reddit altogether because I for sure would've upvoted the art if I did have a Reddit account, it was amazing.
I had my 13 year old account banned on reddit and the 'final' statement was saying 'No, just the problems they deserve blame for' to a Zionist who accused all Lebanese people of blaming all of Lebanon's problems on Israel.
Just saying that apparently is a call to violence against Jews...
Yup. I said things about Elon and Trump and how they are nazis supporting nazis like Putin commiting war crimes and I got a warning. Reddit can get lost.
I got banned for making fun of Kemi Badenoch when she said autistic people are privileged. I said maybe she's jealous that there are people that know more about trains than her. That was apparently enough to warrant a permanent ban.
I had an old account banned site wide for asking why there was an obvious gay guy on love island. Wasn't even a malicious post I was genuinely curious how he faked his way on there.
Recently I got a temp ban for mentioning chatgpt on the books sub, someone was asking about a large selection of books and which were worth reading. I told him to get chatgpt to sort the list out by most popular. Apparantly even mentioning an llm exists there is a ban.
Kinda get the second one as authors all think chatgpt stealing from them or something but yeah I was talking about sorting a large list
Why the hell would you go on a book community, open a discussion post that is clearly asking for personal opinions and go "I dunno lol go ask chatgpt". I would've banned you too tbqh.
If you want to call hating on Nazis "hateful" then by all means but other than child rapists and rapists in general. I fucking hate Nazis and they can all go die for I care. That group murdered millions. They deserve all the hate they get, all the way till the end of time.
Shadowbanning in Europe is very hard to pull off without crossing DSA and GDPR rules, which require transparency and informing of the user. Specifically DSA Article 17.
I'm posting this because if you are European, you should be informed of any shadowban, which makes it a normal ban by definition. If you had to investigate and found out you are shadowbanned, your rights have been violated. I think the best way to get something going is by using a certified out-of-court dispute settlement body, although there's probably a lot of other ways. And if you don't want to return to Reddit anymore, it might be fun to throw some legal shit at their shit platform on your way out.
My reddit account suddenly got a lot of "server errors", can't post anymore and likes don't count towards the streak. Since getting the "Network errors" I've also been getting 0 interaction.
I do actually live in the Netherlands now, what could I do to try and cause some chaos for this bs without paying for it? It happened to my last reddit account as well which a subreddit mod literally told me was shadow banned (like over 5 years ago now) and I should get that checked out.
Does saying "The only good fascist are very dead fascist" counts? What if I add that USA is a fascist country now? Will saying Donald is a pedophile still counts (I got banned for it already lol)? What about saying my favorite sport is nazi punching? And if I add that there's no such thing as "roman salute"?
Is Reddit about to drop a new t-shirt line "Protect fascist's feeling" or something?
Same, in January, I said something to the line of traitors used to be publicly hanged, now they're elected and got banned for it. That was the last straw, came here right away and was happy to find the place striving compared to last time I tried it.
That's because the left expects loyalty but never gives it in return.
You people think you can keep calling people nazis because they don't agree with you on everything and expect them to ignore it. People don't like being censored and they don't like being told what to think.
The left doesn't care about the working class either, they're just not as brazen in exploiting it. So when all that's left is the culture war (good job everyone who perpetuated it over the class war), a significant amount of people aren't going to be on your side.
A lot of you only have yourselves to blame. You behave like children yet want to be treated as adults. It doesn't work that way outside of your parent's houses.
Also, neither were designed specifically as such, unlike social sites like Truth. Plus, Twitter and Facebook are heavily dominated by right leaning groups.
My ONLY problem with the left is they preach tolerance but are ALWAYS the ones to start the abuse, insults, name calling and threats when they are disagreed with.
On a place light Reddit most subs will just ban you for showing any right leaning opinions. Or any opinion that goes against their narrative. That's not what tolerance is.
Uh...the "badge of honor" would have been quitting back during api-gate and not looking back. Getting banned now just means one participated after that time, providing spez with traffic and value, and helped normalize the behaviour that is only just now a bridge too far.
Today, a ban is the "conciliatory prize of not thinking ahead".
3rd party apps closing down I can see from a business point. Makes good business sense. Keep everyone on your shitty app and monetize it. I wasn't for it but understood the greedy fucks behind it.
Now it's just different. Banned for going against Nazis, just means they are in bed with Nazis. That's the last straw.
It means accounts that consistently upvote posts that end up being banned.
The naive take is that this will remove bot/brigade swarms that are collaboratively boosting content that breaks site wide rules. You can derive ulterior motives from this if you want but I'm pretty sure that's the basic premise.
I have no doubt this will be leveraged by the far-right to sow more discord. They already have a history of raiding subreddits with false flag attacks to get them sanctioned until it escalates into full blown subreddit ban. This is all but formalizing the mechanism.
This type of behavior is never tolerate on Reddit. You disagree with a Redditor, straight to ban. No trial, no nothing. There's no journalists. We'll have a special subreddit for journallists. Under represent a Republican, believe it or not ban. Over represent a Democrat, also ban. Reddit has the best users on the internet.
Basically declaring that they don't allow free speech.
"Hey, you have been liking things we disagree with and we need an echo chamber here, align with us or fuck off.
Sincerely, the money hungry bitches of the internet! Also heil daddy musk!"
Excuse me? If someone says they want a genocide you have to wait until they take over, only then are you allowed to support violence.
I'm against violence, I think that reasonable and even somewhat unreasonable people should be talked with. But if someone says "fuck you I will kill you" you should have the right to punch them, it is the same as self defence, because next time they will kill you.
They permabanned two of my accounts during the election last year, just because I said I didn’t care when Trump said Liz Cheney should be shot. She’s a warmonger who’s called for violence against millions of innocent people. Not gonna clutch my pearls when anyone (even Trump) threatens her.
There is a big jump from "we are a private company and we have internal rules" to "we are a private company and our internal rules that directly go against human rights"
I have a strange opinion, but here goes: The Right to Free Speech (Im in the US here), should protect you from censorship. Doing what Reddit is doing should be considered a Rights violation and we should be able to sue them into the ground.
hypothetically speaking, if someone blew up their office HQ, that would send a powerful message. of course, if you have the balls to do that, there are some other offices that would probably be much better targets.
To be clear, they're talking about banning right wing people. Reddit is one of the most liberal platforms you will find.
You can't even talk economics on Reddit without being downvoted to fuck, or banned.
I am a centrist, and I routinely had posts removed and got banned from communities for saying things from actual textbooks taught currently in universities.
No one is attacking the free speech of the left unless it's radical and advocating for physical harm.
Incorrect. I got banned yesterday for "Eat the Rich" and Luigi favoritism. I believe the post in question (you never know with a Reddit ban because they dont show you) was responding to someone's post that mentioned the French Revolution with a Guillotine gif and "Git-r-Done".
Yea, apparently I was plotting murder or something by doing that.
I once got banned for "vote brigading" on Reddit because I upvoted a crosspost that was deleted later, so this comes as no surprise. They have been monitoring upvotes and downvotes since forever.
When one community goes in mass to affect the votes in another.
E.g someone is doing a poll/vote intended to be private or limited to a certain group/community, and you link that to from somewhere else with the hope, or sometimes direct instructions to go vote on it in a certain way.
That's why reddit has cross-posts and the np (no participation, disables voting in the linked content) subdomain that try to keep the votes separated.
I got perma banned after i joined NAFO as a mod
2 bannes for petty reasons and then the third and final ban. Always waited for the other bans to time out
“reddit will warn users who repeatedly upvote calls for a violent revolution against the billionaire class and the fascist neo feudalist militarized police state enforced wage slavery and rent till death economics they have created to benefit their endless growth driven profits while ignoring upvotes of content that praise violence against leftists, women and other marginalized leftist aligning groups and ideologies”
Yes, this is exactly what it is.
A call for violence against liberals? No worries. A statement that violence may be the only option left to fight a government controlled by billionaires? Banned.
They are desperay obvious and its cringe. They were in full blast damage control censorship mode even before december 4th. I was VPN banned last summer just for saying that occupied indigenous people have a right to resist occupation by any means necessary as per international law in regards to palestine and IsNoTreal. So far ive jot been able to evade the ban even with a vpn. Wall street military and prison industry profiteers have become too confident and comfortable.
Well, exactly the same can and is happening on specific Lemmy servers too.
One of the vegan instances bans you if you downvote anything that speaks in favour of veganism. Not that I just do this out of spite, but there was this time where a thread about vegan cat food gained traction and I downvoted some comments that were really borderline. Ban within an hour.
Same on that notorious star trek instance. Go ahead and put some downvotes on Discovery related posts, it will also earn you a temporary ban.
So let's not pretend that it's only big bad reddit doing this.
Yeah. I'm a vegan and I took issue with that. Sure we can do scientific studies to see how cats do on vegan diets, but imo that further propels cat domestication which vegans should be against at the very beginning. We already subject cats and other pets to environments that aren't natural to their genetic history. And now vegans are introducing foods that aren't natural, even though taking cats off streets can be seen as the more ethical thing to do, given the alternatives.
Lots of nuance here, but it's not fair to the cats. Any time vegans think for themselves instead of the real victims of animal slavery, they undermine their entire cause.
its sickening how they pretend to care about animals and nature by being vegan yet its just egotripping and blatant animal abuse. If they actually care about animals they should be the first ones denouncing vegan cat food.
A little, sure, but from my point of view (which you are happy to disagree with), very little.
Personally I am a big Star Trek fan. I was stoked to see there is an actual dedicated Lemmy server for it, with many communities focused around everything Star Trek. But I disagree with their admin/moderation so much I had to change my account to another server. At some point ended up blocking the whole instance because I just cannot keep myself to just reading what others are posting.
So even if I can use another server, I cannot use those communities. Similar if I were a vegan and would not agree with what some of the more extreme users are posting.
There are not many active alternatives for these communities on Lemmy.
Lemmy even has the option to disable downvotes, so they’re obviously using downvotes as some kind of purity test.
Side note, there should be a way to soft block certain instances so you can see and interact with its federated posts but not send anything to the instance itself. You want to limit open discussion on your instance? Fine, but everyone else is still going to talk about you.
Plus side here is that people can move to another instance and start commenting right away as opposed to being shadow banned for a period in certain subs and having to build up enough karma to not automatically have every comment flagged.
People aren't stuck to the policies of instances they don't agree with whether it be reasons for bans or what instances are blocked or whitelisted.
cant believe that show went on five seasons, and it got worst every season too, and the obvious objective kurtzman was evident by season 4(female leads were the only sex left on the cast), the only likable characther, was michelle yeohs performance(you can see the acting is better than the others). Picard also was like that(the show couldve been good if done right, but picard(patrick stewart) seemed too low energy for the show.
Never seen but just cause I am in edgy mood today: discovery is utter garbage. They should pay hefty health insurance to anyone who has seen it to cover therapy costs and eye surgery.
It’s so garbage that the dump trucks drivers get confused and arrive at people living rooms if they turn it on.
The only fitting spot for it is inside the latrine but wash it out as carefully after putting this shitty thing down the drain as if it was an especially nasty hangover poop
at least here its more easy to just let them stew with eachother or for more sensible part of that community to just break off. in reddit its the site owner who ultimately decided how the site goes, here its the community itself. Though if majority of some community decides to just stick with some awful group, its quite bad for the minority that doesnt like the awfullness. But at least that is problem of our own making instead of what something some rich asshole decided and thus we can solve it ourselves too if we really want to. There is no way to unshittify reddit ever.
It’s enough to just make new account every couple months
It’s a good practice anyway. Fresh start every month feels good. Privacy is much better this way on such transparent site as Lemmy. You reset any mutes/bans/fame you might have acquired. It’s win-win
+It’s not like Lemmy has some kind of insane profile customisation fluff or account bound rewards
Also remember to have a unique username for each site for best doxx protection. I use this Osint site sometimes for lulz and there are people who have same PayPal id (with real name shown) as their Lemmy account name lol.
Lemmy may be tame but if you browse any deep chan sites opsec is of paramount and admins are hostile actors deep down there too that WILL post your data. Here I kinda trust admins just a little so that accidental true IP reveal seems like no big deal.
However one day you may sign up to the wrong instance or instance may change hands and someone may post your data to some chan like alt right pit. This is a danger of entrusting your account to small private operators that are complete strangers with unknown motivations
See my other comment. That is not really the solution since you will simply get banned again after a while, depending on how much you interact there. Unless admin/moderation changes, making a new account just gives you a bit of extra time using those communities.
It's way easier to do with Lemmy compared to Reddit. Because of its federated design, it's trivial to subscribe to a stream of all activity in a community (posts, comments, upvotes, downvotes, moderation actions, etc) and do things when particular actions happen. Unlike Reddit, on Lemmy you can get a list of who upvoted or downvoted a post or comment.
Which I don't have a problem with. Having vastly different moderation policies can create a walled garden, but there are instances where a walled garden is just preferable. See how askhistorians was handled. It's better to have a platform that you can shape to your needs and the potential needs of your users. If it's truly useless, then nobody would use it
The motives behind the actions of these groups are vastly different though. A corporation silencing anti-establishment speech is not equivalent to lemmy moderators abusing authority in their micro-feifdoms. Still frustrating of course but the reasons and effects are quite different
True, can't argue with that. I am maybe a bit too pragmatic when I say, I don't care about the difference because the outcome for me as a user is the same.
Everybody upvote Luigi content! Get banned! Leave reddit! Reddit crumbles! Fuck reddit! Go Luigi! Lemmy grows! Centralized social media dies! I eat a burrito. That last one wasn't really on topic, but it's happening anyways! I'm hungry.
I got banned but their site is so shit the links to the message you got banned for never work. Been banned/warned enough times it's not a one off either.
5 of my accts were banned last month, all at once. one got temp suspended, and a triggered a sitewide ban for the others for some "reason. theres no reason to ban all others when it was just temp suspended. but they went extra out of thier way(any old and new accts that have years of seperation between a subreddit ban(if they dint get banned immediately after getting sub banned) they banned accounts.
ex, i had 2 unused accts 5+years, and 1 recent temp suspension(then they look at other accts you were per banned from a subreddit in, and banned all of them). i had also a couple of unused throwaways that i started using from years ago(last month), and a semi-new acct that i use just in case of a ban that i dint use for 90days. and then 1 acct strictly used for 1 subreddit.
only 1 survived but its still flagged by reddit, but have no ban on it right now.
creating mroe than 1 acct just puts people at risk of getting banned.
i pointed out the censoring of luigi news in dec, and people actually believed that wasnt happening, and having all that trump rage post slop thats been posting in order to astroturf luigi news.
Just keep in mind: your upvotes on Lemmy are visible to anybody who runs a Lemmy instance.
God help us if Elon Musk figures out how to run one.
ETA: I mention this because the current government wants to find anyone who does this.
The [unelected president] moaned on his platform that some Reddit users on the subreddit r/WhitePeopleTwitter had broken the law after they allegedly revealed the identities of his so-called DOGE goon squad.
not surprising, on another site/forum where reddit users got banned for upvoting in attempt to mimic human activity on reddit to promote thier of accts later down the line, thats whats been happening. they are using some technical tricks trying to get around these bans, but reddit is quickly closing those gaps, thats why thier bans have been so aggressive lately. they overmoderate, and overbanned recently.
Note that you actually need to review the app itself, not reddit. When I left a negative review about the whole reddit API mess, the review was removed and I was barred from leaving more reviews
This is actually what got me to swap as it reminded me some content will be banned, and so the social media I've had for over a decade and thought was going to be the only classic site to retain freedom of speech and expression had proven itself that they will not be afraid to start taking baby steps towards controlling and censoring media. And in the contents section of this post was a person spreading the news of this alternative. So here I am.
if that is your primary motivation, i have bad news for you... you might have to move on. here you will get bans for downvoting "the wrong" comment or post as well.
Yeah. Except for some niche subs I haven't miss it at all. And thanks to Privacy Redirect add-on, I haven't visited Reddit itself for a long time. Since it still has some useful info that floods the search engines.
Surprisingly, there are a lot of people who have still never heard of Lemmy on Reddit. I mentioned it in a post about this and got flooded with people asking me what Lemmy is and how to sign up.
Reddit will now issue warnings to users who “upvote several pieces of content banned for violating our policies” within “a certain timeframe,” starting first with violent content, the company announced on Wednesday.
Reddit has seen an increase in rule-breaking posts across “several communities,” and it has issued a temporary ban on one that featured users calling for violence against people who work for the Elon Musk-led Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).
That community, r/WhitePeopleTwitter, was given a 72-hour ban on Tuesday, as reported by Engadget. Screenshots shared on X show multiple examples of the threatening posts. Musk later reposted the screenshots, claiming that the users have “broken the law.”
In a note on the subreddit, Reddit says it was banned “due to a prevalence of violent content” and that “inciting and glorifying violence or doxing” violate Reddit’s rules. An unnamed Reddit admin said the ban was meant to be a “cooling-off period” for the community.
Reddit also gave a full ban to a subreddit called r/IsElonDeadYet for violating rules “against posting violent content.” The unnamed admin said Reddit is taking steps “to ensure all communities can provide a safe environment for healthy conversation” in a post on r/RedditSafety.
is that sub even unbanned, i havnt seen it for weeks. right after whitepeopletwitter was banned, they started another huge ban wave that continued into FEB. definitely silencing all anti-conservative sentiment, the "progressives" posts that are allowed, get AstroTurf by trolls.
its basically X and truth social posts without going to X. and mix in with some ragebaiting articles from non-reputable sources. you also have to be careful on subs like pics, news, funny, askreddit,ask for the same reasons. why are people ranting on reddit about X and truth social, when you are reposting it.
Reddit being the go to place for federal workers to explain what is happening on the fednews sub given reddit shadow banning new accounts and anti VPN stance is rather ironic with federal workers hiding their names and using stuff like signal out of fear of what the administration might do to them.
Tom from MySpace taking the money and enjoying life away from the limelight instead of seeking more wealth and power seems more along the lines of what most people fantasize about when it comes to what they'd do if they were rich. All the other rich fucks actively go out of their way to make as many people as miserable as possible.
I suddenly have an urge to upvote banned content. Talk about being insecure. That post was soon followed up by another of the "we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" sort.
something more ridiculous is getting banned for reporting someone obviously for one of the rule violation. the MOD can choose when they are in the mood, and ban you if they dont like you reporting someone.