Looks like he's getting ready to do something really stupid to account for all the customers he weirded out and blame unions for it.

If we could stop giving him tax breaks and government money, that would be good.

Reminds me of another grifter who built a real estate portfolio with tax breaks.
Fun fact about that:

Tesla has won $17 million to build a total of 41 charging stations. The next-biggest winner of grants, Oklahoma-based Francis Energy, was awarded much more money — almost $30.4 million — to build just 37 stations. (source

If anyone else in the industry could step up to make them less relevant, that would be awesome.
- It's because they need to use pure gold for the cables it's the only thing that can deliver the 1.21 jiggawatts the cars need.
- ...but who knows if those stations will still work 10 years from now if he fires the whole charging team on a whim to prove a point?
- Did Tesla actually build the stations though?

why does elon think people will agree with him that unions are bad? Arent super rich the only ones who agree with that opinion?

You'd be shocked how much anti union hate is alive and well in impoverished Republican areas. The propaganda succeeded.
- this right here, I live in a predominantly blue district and the amount of people that believe that unions are the worst thing that can happen to a worker is insane. I have to give it to the anti-union propaganda, it was efficient and it worked.
I grew up in a blue collar area and the normal lines that get repeated over and over is that unions prevent hard workers from standing out and excelling. They reward and promote laziness. They make the labour so expensive the business cant survive. And on and on.
- I'm all for unions even though I was fucked over by Pepsi's union. Just make sure your union leaders aren't company men or women.
- Sounds like nom union corporate software development.
- I guess anyone who believes that thinks that they are and always will be in the 90% performance bracket who will get rewarded.
  
  PS: only rich egotists like elon can afford to live in that belief.
Shhh...he's campaigning for Harris in the rust belt at this point and doesn't know it 😉 #galaxybrain
Nope! Lots of blue collar workers have been programmed since birth that unions are bad. Without a proper education they'll never learn otherwise. I know, I was one of them.
- Amazon put gamer-centric union busting materials in it's centers telling folks to buy games instead of paying dues.
The super rich a disturbingly uneducated
Republicans simultaneously love American automakers and hate unions.

I would also like to see Tesla either unionized or dead.

Prefer to see it dead and Elon’s method of influence gone.
- Unfortunately he'll still have hundreds of billions of dollars, even without Tesla, so his influence will never go away. He could lose 99% of his wealth and still be a billionaire.

Thanks, Elon. You've convinced me. I won't vote for Joe Biden in November.

Look at all this Republican propaganda working! First I refused to vote for Hunter Biden for President in November, and now I'm not even voting for Joe Biden in November. I'll go even further, there is not a single man on the Democratic or Republican tickets I'm planning to vote for for President in November.
- I agree. I have yet to find a man worth voting for. I guess we'll have to wait until the DNC. The Democrats might nominate the man I'll vote for, but I doubt it.
Damn and they just talked me out of voting for Hunter.
- I was also ready to vote for Obama a third time until they convinced me he wasn't born in the United States.
Funny, now I have to write Biden in so he can kill Tesla

OH NO! But if Tesla shuts down then the only source for quality electric cars would be Ford, Toyota, Lexus, BMW, Volkswagen, Porsche, Honda, Audi, Chrysler, Subaru, Mercedes, Fiat, GMC, Hyundai, Cadillac, Genesis, Rivian, Nissan, Volvo, and Kia.

Polestar any good?
- Polestar = Premium Volvo
I think the only ones in your list actually making quality electric cars are Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, Hyundai, Genesis, Kia, and Rivian. The rest are rubbish and aren’t even trying. Ford built a truck that people might have bought if it was reasonably priced, and then shoved it full of garbage software and silly tricks everywhere. And the rest of those companies are only putting out one maybe two models of electric vehicles and then saying “EVs don’t sell” then cutting their programs. The ones I listed are the only manufacturers with even a slightly reasonable number of models, much less having usable vehicles. Even Tesla barely has any models, and they’re all pretty much the exact same besides their speed.
- VW has a ton of models and cupra on top. Volvo has polestar. And that's just 2 I know personally. I wonder how the error margin with you other exclusions is.
But have you thought about the teslatuby?
You have a funny idea of "quality."

Tesla and Musk owe sooooo much of their success to huge federal and state level EV tax bonuses and rebates. The government essentially subsidized his company for decades. He decided to dump all that money into an ego boost instead of R&D, and let other manufacturers catch and even surpass Tesla in technology and features. He's done. Tesla is done.

relevant https://jalopnik.com/half-of-teslas-q2-profit-came-from-your-taxes-1851606200
Several American car companies owe their existence to the government.

"he would rather tesla be dead then not unionized"

Uhhh.. Okay, sure. That sounds great. Either or.

‘No Business Which Depends for Existence on Paying Less Than Living Wages to Its Workers Has Any Right to Continue in This Country’

Still not sure why the idiot shareholders approved the pay package...

If I was a large institutional investor with a significant amount of cash tied up in Tesla stock I would be concerned about Musk selling off his shares en mass and tanking the share price. Musk has shown nothing but how petty he can be even if it hurts himself when he doesn't get what he wants
- He axed the supercharger department.
  
  You know, the one thing Tesla had over all other EVs, the robust chargers that were everywhere.
  
  I’d have cut and run then.
- So basically a funny legal way of saying extortion?
Imagine him tanking a company for revenge
- It would be strange if he did it twice right?
Seriously. It was an easy way to get rid of that anchor
- They hold over 40% of the stock, that's got to be well over $200bn, no way would they risk tanking the value

Fortunately at this point it no longer matters if Tesla is dead or not. All car manufacturers caught up. Genius Musk singlehandedly destroyed the biggest Tesla fan base and opportunity to capitalize on being first.

yes, he already got his bonus, but he will never let a good catastrophe go to waste and use it to discredit unions.
Just yesterday, on Twitter, I saw a guy selling his Tesla because of Elon’s anti-trans moves. Actively asking for other EV recommendations, and getting a ton.

That's funny.

So Musk rather wants Tesla dead than unionized

Translation: Biden is utterly controlled by those dirty little working class people and would rather they have benefits and a safe work place over me and my rich friends making more money.

How does Biden become controlled by an auto worker union?

(Trump vowing to crush electric vehicles)

Musk: Why is Kamala planning on ruining Tesla?

While bankrolling him. Maybe it's ma$o¢hism
Trump is just saying shit about electric cars to get votes though.

Blue collar MAGA voters these days:

It's not even a thought, because they don't have any. True MAGAts just do whatever they're told.
- Yeah they spoke at the RNC and the Republican ghouls at the top weren't happy with their message.

For those just joining us, Elmo has driven the car company Tesla into a smoking hole in the ground. Stand by for further incorrect statements and wild assertions of blame.

I'm really not sure his play. Like even he should realize that directly supporting the guy that has stated multiple times that any transportation outside of big oil is bad, alienating himself from the side that would most likely actually buy his technology due to the "green" aspect of it is insane.
- His play is that he’s above money and the law and is desperate for people to laud him. Beyond that, there appears to be some unfortunate drug use and a small host of sycophants that constantly encourage him.
  
  Business doesn’t really enter into it, afaict.
stand by and watch indeed...

I'd also rather Tesla be dead.

Good news! He died 7 January 1943.
- :(

This tool can't accept he is the cause of the poor sales. He alienated his customers with his right wing rhetoric.

Teslas are impractical, cheaply made and expensive. That's why they aren't selling. Electric vehicles aren't selling in general because they don't make sense for the money. It's a forced meme by special interests.
- tf are you talking about? Forced meme? The numbers work for.many people and if they do they buy them. If they don't then they don't buy them.
- It is not a forced meme, my friend. Certainly economics play a role, but so do logistics. I live in an apartment with no way to charge an electric car, so even if I wanted one, it is moot. For now.
  
  Take a look at electric bicycles and make a guess what will happen with electric cars. All of this depends on the price of gas, of course, and each country's fetish with driving large trucks.
- EV is a premium product, they are even designed to look different than other vehicles. People who buy an EV have a choice, it’s not a lowest bidder type situation.
  
  Tesla’s used to be the cool EV. Sure, one could buy a different one but they are not as cool. Then Elon opened his mouth and the veil was lifted. Turns out he isn’t a genius, never got accepted to a PhD program, and his undergrad in physics is highly suspect. Then Elon went mask off as a fascist, right wing clown.
  
  People buy EV’s are usually doing so for a status symbol and for the saving the environment ideology. Elon and his companies no longer represent that, and Teslas are no longer selling.

Wouldn't every business be better dead than ununionized? I would rather Elon was dead personally, maybe Tesla isn't that bad but we hate him so much we can't see it? I dunno enough about them as a company, but I do want gas cars to only be in museums, so I'm hoping there's something there to salvage.

yeah, I don't hate tesla or spacex, just the psycho puppetmaster.
- especially with Tesla, at some point the lines blur.
  
  I used to love tesla, and then the cyber truck came out, and they have become more and more consumer unfriendly.
  
  You can say that its just Elon's actions, but how can you separate that from the buisness
- I honestly don't know enough about Tesla to say I don't hate it, but I like the fact their existence and failures are providing research data for future EV manufacturing. But I at least give them room to prove they're ok underneath their overlord.
Why would a business be better dead than unionized? If it’s making money still then the answer is always no. Stupid statement.
- Walmart is making money.
  
  Should be unionized.
- Stop thinking from the business' point of view instead of the workers.

Yes, it was Biden and the Unions that made your stupid ass build that pedestrian death trap with sharp edges that breaks down when you wash the car without putting it in a certain mode and dozens of other stupid specific to that one vehicle rules.

no, that was little Timmy, he can't draw too well yet. Timmy, how could you?

Oh, is that stupid fuck gonna do something fucking stupid? Ha! Fuck you, Lonnie, you fucking piece of shit. I would have bought one of your vehicles if it wouldn't have put money in your pocket. Your dumbass truck looks like ass.

is he trying to make Biden more popular lol what a fucking idiot

As the vice president of my local, I agree.

Does that mean its bidens fault the cybertruck falls apart when it gets damp?

I would too

Teslatubby is hurt...why would we or Biden care if his company fails anyway?

He should be negotiating with his workers instead of spazzing out on socials. Who is this shite supposed to resonate with?