Conservatives Plan to Ban Abortion and Cut LGBT Rights Starting Next January
Conservatives Plan to Ban Abortion and Cut LGBT Rights Starting Next January
Project 2025’s 180-Day Playbook is a remarkably detailed guide to turning the United States into a fascist’s paradise.
Project 2025’s 180-Day Playbook is a remarkably detailed guide to turning the United States into a fascist’s paradise.
Perfect time to teach Biden a lesson by not voting for him -- or so I've been told by those with too much privilege and not enough brainpower.
I'm voting for Biden to stave off Jerry Lewis Hitler, as I did last cycle and Clinton before.
That said, a lot of Biden enthusiasts need to stop with the "you also need to say you like him and his politics" crap.
No one should feel enthused about always getting wildly varying degrees of bad as the only choice, merely afraid. At this point we're voting whether to keep the water pumps on as Titanic sinks to buy a little time instead of declaring the water at our waist "fake."
Vote to keep the pumps on, sure, but it helps nothing to pretend our rigged capitalist hellscape, that neoliberals and fascists alike declare as "the only way," isn't eating the itself and us and defended by both parties far above the people (we will take every measure to protect our beloved
societyeconomy! Here Fed, I'm sure you'll ensure these relief funds trickle down after private shareholders get plenty of relief, of course), while it continues wrecking the planet for a few more short term cash grabs before the owners fly off to their prepared havens, con complete. Nox.A vote for Biden is a vote for us to not add state sponsored scapegoating, persecution, and ending bodily autonomy to our doom in motion like a cherry. Yes let's do that(edit: meaning vote for Biden if unclear)...
...but don't delude yourself into believing it's any kind of salvation.
No one is saying you have to be enthused. They're saying you have to pretend to be enthused. Because the strategy of "I'm going to tell everyone I hate this guy so I don't loose any cool points with my friends who the maturity of 16 year olds" is a losing one for you and minorities and LGBT people and women and basically everyone you're fucking over.
That said, a lot of Biden enthusiasts need to stop with the “you also need to say you like him and his politics” crap.
What's great about this is that the lack of awareness and strategy practically guarantees that far left will never rule in the US.
What sucks about is that since vote margins are always razor thin, saying things like that might very well put Larry the Fascist Guy back to power.
They're all over the fucking place here. It's wild. They're almost for certain foreign cointelpro.
I do think theyre making perfect be the enemy of, well not exactly good, but in this case the better option, but Im not so sure theyre foreign ops. If you were running a campaign like that, wouldnt you want to concentrate your messaging on the places where the greatest number of people would be to see it, or at least a lot of people? Lemmy is certainly not immune to influence campaigns, Id bet it might even be more vulnerable than most given the lack of central control that might try to inhibit one, but its also currently incredibly small and obscure as far as social networks go. Would it really be considered worth the resources, to such a campaign, in its current state?
They're almost for certain foreign cointelpro.
Where do I collect my cheque?
What we're telling y'all is that voting one more time for a neoliberal isn't going to make a meaningful change in stopping the inevitable descent into fascism that neoliberal policies have facilitated for the last 40 or 50 years.
It's like the saying goes: the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
There are millions of people who will read the first half of your comment, think it's a good idea and skip the rest. What have you done?
Or billions, even. Billions and billions. Good people, the best kind of people. I know them, personally.
Perfect time for Democrats to nominate an 81 yo guy that most people think it's too old to run. This election won't even be close if someone other than Biden ran. His accomplishments don't really matter in the face of his mortality.
Or you could say that this issue and all the others mean so little to the Democratic Party that running anybody but Genocide Joe is off the table.
Genocide Joe
Jesus Christ. The US government has never given a single shit about the plight of the Palestinians.
The politicians just need a bit more time steeping before they’ll be ready to pretend that they supported Palestine all along. That is of course, if the public continues to like the cause.
What's more realistic: Shaming everyone in the country until they vote for someone doing genocide, or telling Biden to stop facilitating a genocide?
If you don’t vote, you’re saying that you’re completely fine with allowing others to choose for you. Because whether you know it or not- someone will be elected with or without your participation.
This is not up for debate. This is a HARD fact.
So fold your arms and pout all you wish, but an election is happening- and as many have said, Palestine is going to face a MUCH worse under Trump.
Why not both?
I guess being a Muslim and feeling pain when I see a dead baby is "privilege" nowadays. Have you considered the idea that for some people not funding a genocide is more important than anything else? You can't keep bombing the middle east, say "orange man bad" and expect people to vote for you. I don't give a shit at this point. I'll vote for whoever's running against a person who took a dime from AIPAC.
I guess being a Muslim and feeling pain when I see a dead baby is “privilege” nowadays.
Weird guess, but no.
Privilege is knowing that not voting for Biden increases the risk of a Trump presidency, and making that choice anyways. The only way it isn't is if you genuinely believe Trump would be better.
Orange man is bad. Of course he is.
"I don't like the guy who's not cutting off funding to Israel because he thinks a soft touch is needed to talk them off the ledge, so I'm going to let the guy who handed them East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights back into office."
That's what fetishizers think any muslims or arabs (because they are not the same thing l3anhon'allah!!!) will do here and cite to justify letting "orange man" back into office.
Have you considered the idea that for some people not funding a genocide is more important than anything else?
Do you really think orange stain isn't going to start absolutely pouring money into Israel? If you think it's bad now....
In the US we are currently stuck with a 2 party system, a vote for any third party candidate is a throwaway vote in a presidential election.
I’ll vote for whoever’s running against a person who took a dime from AIPAC.
In other words, you'll vote for someone who has zero chance of winning.
Why bother voting at all?
By the way, you might want to look up Project 2025 and Trump's plan to turn the U.S. into a Christian theocracy. You'll probably feel a lot more pain as a Muslim when it's happening to you.
Fuck Putin, and his puppet Trump.
Keep in mind though, that there’s a LOT of bad-faith propaganda-shilling accounts right here on lemmy desperately trying to convince you that both sides are equally as bad and not to vote this year.
Best advice is to report and block them when they share their misinformation and don’t fall for it.
I’m sure we all know who I’m talking about.
Yep. I've had multiple people suggest that Biden would be just as bad when it came to the rights of queer people. The sad thing is, some people get convinced by that.
Someone just earlier today told me that Biden and Trump's policies were exactly the same except maybe on abortion. They 100% believe that. I don't know if they're stupid, ignorant, or evil.
I address those people with "Fuck Putin."
I have gotten a ban for reporting very obvious right wing trolls flying under the thinnest veneer of "leftist" ideology. It's pretty clear that this is a top down issue on certain instances
Not surprised at all. I’ll bet I even know what community that happened in. I’ve had mods threaten me to stop reporting these trolls or I’d get banned.
I just don’t interact with that community anymore.
Sure, right wings are way way worse, yes, don't vote for Trump, vote for (probably) Biden
But don't fall in the trap where you just block anyone that disagrees, or you'll find yourself becoming that which you hate, just on the other side.
Just because Biden isn't as bad as trump, it's a VERY low bad to cross and there is plenty to criticize. Still vote for Biden, obviously, but that doesn't mean he should get a free pass
I keep telling people- the queer genocide that has already begun with Republican restrictions on trans rights and medical care is going to ramp way up and encompass queer people as a whole. Including my daughter.
And yet I keep being told I'm excusing genocide by voting for Biden in order to stop Trump from killing her.
And yet I keep being told I'm excusing genocide by voting for Biden in order to stop Trump from killing her.
Lucky. I'm being told that I'm endorsing it for the same reason.
I will now be voting for Biden exclusively for this guys daughter
And I didn't even get you anything!
Do you think this might be conflating internet-style "genocide" with the kind of genocide that involves gunning people down at an aid truck while they queue for food during a famine?
Moot point as I really don't think either party would be doing anything to stop the crisis. I do think we should be more careful with how we dilute language, though.
Not all genocides involve shooting people at an aid truck.
Some US laws have been described, including by journalists Emily St. James and Katelyn Jones, as meeting criteria mentioned in the United Nations definition of genocide, including laws banning gender-affirming care ("causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part"), and those allowing child protective services to pursue child abuse claims against the parents of children receiving gender-affirming care and remove said children ("forcibly transferring children of the group to another group").[26][27]
Transgender healthcare bans in the US have been condemned by medical organizations. A report published by Yale School of Medicine in response to bans on gender-affirming care in Alabama and Texas argued that the bans were no more ethical than a prohibition on healthcare for any other life-threatening medical condition.[28] The president of World Professional Association of Transgender Health wrote an opinion article in the New York Times stating her view that these laws constituted an effort to "rid the world of transgender people."[29] Similar sentiments were expressed in a WPATH public communique: "Anti-transgender health care legislation is not about protections for children but about eliminating transgender persons on a micro and macro scale."[30]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_genocide#United_States
WASHINGTON — The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) — the nation’s largest lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer (LGBTQ+) civil rights organization — denounced the onslaught of transphobic statements threaded throughout the annual CPAC political gathering this past weekend. For several days extremist politicians and commentators peppered hateful statements toward trans people casually through remarks on unrelated topics. The wave of hatred culminated with a speech in which a Daily Wire commentator called for the “eradication” of transgender people.
The social conservative wish list calls for ending abortion, diversity and inclusion efforts, protections for LGBTQ people, and most importantly, banning any and all LGBTQ content. In fact, “The Mandate for Leadership” makes eradicating LGBTQ people from public life its top priority. Its No. 1 promise is to “restore the family as the centerpiece of American life and protect our children.” They are explicit in how they plan to do so, as you’ll see in the paragraph below. They plan to proceed by declaring any and all LGBTQ content to be pornographic in nature.
“Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.”
https://www.damemagazine.com/2023/08/14/the-gop-has-a-master-plan-to-criminalize-being-trans/
And if you think Joe Biden is in favor of any of that, you're insane.
I am getting really fucking tired of people telling me I should sacrifice my daughter to this genocide because there's another genocide somewhere else. Along with people like you denying it's even happening so you can accuse people like me of supporting a different genocide.
Between Trump installing 3 Supreme Court Justices, having his SC cronies overturn and I quote "SETTLED LAW" on Roe V. Wade and PP V. Casey, giving Putin access to one or plural NOC lists, withholding military aid to Ukraine because he knew that Putin was going to launch a full scale invasion, divulging classified info to Russian diplomats in the White House, asking Russian hackers to hack Hilary's campaign, are the American people angry yet?
None of us is ready to take action without the mob to shield us with relative anonymity and numbers. A great deal of the government's effect in our lives is to disconnect us from each other and give us the impression we depend on it instead. It is quite a persuasive fallacy.
But yes, we're angry, we're just kept in a perpetual state of frustrated will.
Funny how the whole 'Make America Great Again' helped only the rich. And the country that was aided the most was Russia with this movement.
are the American people angry yet?
Yes. But only about illegal immigration.
I hate being right sometimes. Pretty soon interracial marriage will somehow be a topic again.
Convservatives never not plan to ban abortion. The time of year does not matter.
But now people are realizing they can succeed. It's become more than an existential issue. And not a winning one for them so far.
Exactly! 😂 “which January, the year where they first found out about them?”
If any state decides to do this, then it deserves to suffer a brain drain of LBGTQ people and allies who will gladly take their immeasurable skills and talents elsewhere. In short, doing something like this is a good way to ensure the death of one’s state.
However, the “I am moving to another state” or whatever tactic is shortsighted, and not everyone can afford it. The better tactic is to organize political action, protest and VOTE Democrat. The only political party in any meaningful position to favor LGBT+ rights is the Democrats.
Moving to another state is more than just affordability anyway. People shouldn't have to give up their homes and everything they've known. So many states with far right legislatures have a gerrymandered to hell population that's 45% very liberal. Half of the population is just being completely disregarded and considered subhuman.
I'm in a red state; so far my healthcare has been denied and the new censorship laws targeting education are making me realize I need to flee if at all possible. It will take a lot of time, money, and effort to move, but the writing is on the wall.
And the last thing we should do is bunch ourselves up in one spot, or even in one State. That's just doing their work for them. all they'd have to do if we moved to one State or one general area is to build walls around it. They'd follow Israel's example and keep us all in one spot, genociding us through attrition. Cut us off from food and utilities, blockade our ports so supplies from other countries can't get in, cut us off from communications so we can't tell nobody what's going on, and watch from the top of their walls as we die.
Yeah but why do WE always have to move far away. Expensive, tons of bother , and news flash, we’re not all super geniuses, some of us are just fry cooks. Queer janitors deserve freedom from the shitstains of humanity too
That's their plan. They want to cement minority rule by consolidating Democrats into fewer states so they will always win the electoral college. Only having hateful idiots in their state is a pro for them, not a con. It gives them more power.
Conservatives Plan to Ban Abortion and Cut LGBT Rights
There's a problem with this headline.
If they f**k with long-established law like this, they're not "conservatives".
Conservative doesn't mean they don't want to change things, that's an intentional misconception. Its obvious if you see how much settled precedent they are willing to overturn. Conservatives just believe they deserve power, they think they have the divine right to rule over others and that other people do not have that right.
Conservative doesn’t mean they don’t want to change things, that’s an intentional misconception.
Indeed; they are the masters of Orwellian doublespeak.
I used to think that, but these days I think it's basically the No True Scotsman fallacy. When most of the the people who call themselves conservative are fascists, then conservatism is fascism. It wasn't always, but it is now.
Sure they are. It's just what they considered long established and what you consider long established are different. They don't want to go back to the 70s. They want to go back to the Gilded Age. Or Hell a straight-up feudal monarchy.
They're conservative insofar as they think peak society was when only cishet white men were allowed to participate.
They already have. They're fascists and Conservatives love fascism
These P25 people are just so...hateful. Carrying all that hate seems like it would not be fun.
I remember when republicans were about less government. Pepperidge farms remembers….
I don't think they ever truly were. They've always supported the expansion of the military and police, having shit loads of foreign military bases, controlling women, controlling the LGBTQ+. The only way they could ever be considered to be wanting less government is in the form of their laissez-faire, pro-privitization economic policy, which just lets corporations do whatever the hell they like. So all it is, is trading one form of control to another. Instead of government controlling things, corporations control everything.
The GOP platform is, and always has been anti-freedom.
Unfortunately, many accept what they're told at face value and don't have the critical thinking skills to know the difference.
At the risk of sounding like Peterson (but reversed right to left), it's always been about an in group that deserves to rule, and an out group that people punish. It's that simple with them, why all the hypocrisy. It's literally that simple. I'm a good guy, they're bad, they disagree with me, that means they're bad and should be punished. Zero sum game stuff
I remember when republicans were about less government.
They never really were. They've always been the party of corporate cronyism, with "less government" only ever applying to institutions from which they couldn't generate profit.
ConservativesChristofachistsYes, Republicans.
nono, they were right the first time
Tomato, tomato.
If he would only just extend his fingers when he gestured like that. Then it would be a lot clearer to more people what a nasty thing he is.
It wouldn't change a single thing, I'm pretty sure
That must’ve been the ‘proud boys’ over there, to the RIGHT hand side.
Its 2016 all over again.
Every effort to drag the Democratic party over to any kind of popular position is getting labeled as a betrayal. Every effort to oppose Republicans at the state and local level is denounced as uncivil. And as soon as the dust settles in November, the national media will fall in love with the winner, and grow increasingly irate at anyone critical of this abysmally unpopular tumor of a Presidency.
starting next january
¿????? Thsi started like, 10 years ago!
More like 50. They wrote their playbook in the 1970s, and have finally started seeing the fruits of their labor. If we can shut them down hard in this election, and the midterms, and the next election, the GOP may finally die. That doesn't mean these people will stop trying to take control. They brainwash their kids into being true believers. This isn't politics to them, it's a holy war.
I appreciate the positivity. With all the evil this party keeps perpetrating, things keep on looking so bleak. However, if one then looks at how the party is basically dead in some US states and dying in most of the rest, it does make it look like we may still be able to save America from this traitorous scum. The people that fell victim to their lies and manipulation can be put back on track and stop feeling pointlessly angry for reasons they don’t quite understand, and start having self-worth and help this country prosper again.
Every election I ask myself can these choices even get worse (as in presidential candidates). My question is always answered exactly 4 years later with an unequivocal "yes."
I know you gotta sell ads, but how fucked is it the one on this article was promoting a shirt that says, „if you want to make everything electric, start at the border wall.“
Never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake. Carry on!
I think you need to see this meme: https://lemmy.world/post/12640726
It may or may not be a mistake for them, but it will definitely cause a lot of suffering.
Yeah but at least they will stop the genocide in Gaza, right?
Absolutely. By January of next year all the Palestinians should be dead and the genocide will be ended.
Conservatives need to be banned
By whom?
Every time I see this photo I think he's wearing a French foreign legion kepi
That disturbingly resembles a cake about to fall off the table
I want to die. I just want to live.
In January they’re going to be too busy trying to steal another election for trump
Ice is cold.
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So we'll just vote them out of office.
After they fucked everything up? They never should have made it into office in the first place.
Yeah, we did that and there was an insurrection... Do you think if they get voted in this time and then lose next round that they will leave peacefully?
Or maybe they are just trying to scare you and tell you what will get you to vote Democrat.
Except the GOP has already started doing those things... It's not like this is coming out of nowhere. I hate the DNC but hate facism a whole lot more so the choice is clear.
Are you fucking dense? They are telling you what they will do just like they overturned roe v wade. Gtfo with your fascist supporting garbage.
I am very dense, and it hurts my feeling to have you point it out :(