Although people are moving away from CA, tons and tons of people are moving there. It's not going to affect anything on the CA side.

We're done. You're toxic, have a block.

Nah, man, this is all on you. Talking about what people in Africa, India, and Pakistan are experimenting with in their own country does not make anyone outside of there a white savior. This is really all on you.

I really feel that there must be a streak of racism among the people who responded to this thread. It was weird how people took exception to the idea of food being made in a community.

This is what I am talking about. You can restore desolate land and make it produce food for humans:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vKAPL_WfBA&t=47s&pp=ygUPYW5kcmV3IG1pbGxpc29u

It's unclear why you are projecting some nonsense about me wanting to keep Africans in the stone age. Maybe try to be a bit more charitable.

A terrible idea, putting food production in communities and making sure they are fed. I should have known better. You're right, massive agriculture in the hands of a powerful elite is the only answer.

This isn't about trying to integrate with modern life. It's realizing that aspects of modernity are obscene and some things should go back to how they were done millennia back.

It would have been developed by humans all around the world at the same time. Technology and knowledge weren't the limiting factor--humans have always known that you can toss some seeds in the soil and a plant will come out. What was lacking was the climate--the last ice age ended about 12,000 years ago and only after that was massive cultivation possible. It was after that where you see settlements and eventually cities appear.

The sort of work that is succeeding in parts of Africa, Pakistan, and India is setting up what they call food forests. Put some fruiting tree species in the center and surround throughout with fruiting and vegetable producing plants. This will form a more complex web of creatures that can live together and produce food for the people who take care of them. No fertilizers, no irrigation--just crops that are appropriate for the region. They can take years to get going, though, which is the hard part. Once they are going, it's just a question of tending to them.

Completely agreed. There is very little in the way of actual journalism there, it's really an industry rag.

Soo...did this place eventually collapse under its own hubris? I went through similar when I used to work for Silicon Valley Bank. Eventually their hubris caught up to them.

Agreed. She had the right connection, had the right look, was in the right place at the right time, etc. Not saying she's not intelligent, creative, etc--she probably is or wouldn't be in these roles. She definitely didn't get to where she is through hard work, though.

Never let yourself become convinced that conservatives will vote in their best interest. They aren't voting based on some logical paradigm, some set of criteria--they are voting on their emotions and their emotions are based on symbols. It's why the people who claim to be so proud of their Constitution know absolutely nothing about it.

Well if Clinton ran now I’m sure she’d have a better chance. People didn’t yet know what it meant to have Trump and now they do.

You’re just lacking in imagination and don’t really get how good life can be. Other developed countries actually want their citizens to live well.

The problem is that it is his narcissism that drives him to want to be adored by everyone. As such, he can't actually stop talking.

They WERE maybe 5 years ago. All good will died with Musk taking over.

Whatever data you gave them was theirs to begin with. You can't change that even if you delete it. The best you can do is remove the app form all devices and not interact so that you give them no more.

2016 for me, and yes. It was specifically family that drove me off, believe it or not.

Not according to the Brittains who wish to lock that shit up.