We all know there’s barely enough people here. It’s not unusable, but there are so few people it’s always the same users posting and commenting, and it can be a bit dead occasionally.
I’m committed to the fediverse, but we could do with another big push from people dumping Reddit. Part of that would also rely on us (🫵) not being obnoxious towards the potential new users 👀
I heard it's something like 90% of people lurk, 10% of people comment, 1% of people post. So you need a pretty substantial population just to have enough posts and comments for the lurkers to still hang around.
It's also why it was particularly dumb of Reddit to piss off their 1% and 10%.
When I was a kid in the 70s, a lurker was a turd that had failed to flush away properly. As in : "Dad left a big beefy lurker in the toilet again." How language changes.
It's just a bad habit for me really. I'm so used to reddit immediately slaughtering anyone who doesn't conform with the hivemind even though Lemmy isn't like that
Yep, I’m part of the problem. Was super active on Reddit, dumped them, then just don’t really have the energy of fucks anymore to create content or comment really; it’s a shame…
A lot of the thousands of Reddit comments per post were variations of ‘this!’ or inane joke responses, and I don’t miss that at all. It’s not the quantity, but the quality, and I’ve found discussions here to be more like Reddit’s early days when comment threads were more worthwhile.
But if you’re looking for the Reddit experience, I’ll help:
As per the website there are around 900 active users servers on lemmy
I recently joined the fediverse both lemmy and mastodon and tbh lemmy is more active. Mastodon is just an echo chamber only bots are reposting from reddit and twitter.
Everyone wishing for more users might be wishing on a cursed monkey paw. I don’t know what the sweet spot number of active users is — I want more so we can have contributors to niche communities — but there’s a tipping point. You want your favorite bar/restaurant/message boards to be popular but not too popular.
Personally I think it's more important to break big-tech's hold on online communication. Every single user who leaves a centralized platform to join the Fediverse is a win in my books! Another thing is that we never had a mainstream decentralized, nonprofit and non-algorithmic social network before afaik, I'm actually not sure if the climate will evolve like it did with the other networks.
I guess I just don't have faith in the majority's conversation. Once you have a lot of dumb people, all the content starts devolving. Especially the comments.
As a dumb myself, it's a difficult problem that I don't have an answer to.
But maybe it's a net positive. Don't spend all day on one platform. And the dumb jokes are nice for being less serious all the time. As long as there is still good conversation
Bro, we've had like 3 dozen memes at the top about Taylor Swift's airplane just in the last week. We are not exactly avoiding what I just complained about. So I guess it'll be okay
Honestly, I’m scared of what will come of it. Lemmy is fragile and the lessons of yesteryear don’t apply thanks to AI and evolving spam methods. That said, I’m still cautiously optimistic about the future of lemmy.
I still can’t believe we haven’t seen a @whitehouse.gov.social or whatever spring up. Why in the world would they not want to control their social media presence in house? Why allow Twitter that luxury?
If they went cold turkey on Twitter and set up @[email protected] the posts would still end up on Twitter because people would cross post them (just like we see Twitter posts on Masto or lemmy).
At least some EU governments have started making their own accounts.
I emailed my region’s national weather service and asked that they join Mastodon and the meteorologist said they wanted to but there’s an approval process for communications and it takes awhile to add new services.
I’m basically completely off X (and haven’t had a Facebook account for years) but during a recent storm, I made a new Twitter account that just follows local government accounts. It’s annoying that the fastest way to find out about flooded roads and stuff is X and I really hope that changes soon.
I think once domains like @washington.usa.gov or @newyork.usa.gov get adopted for precenses on the network we'll be golden, the EU is already making huge steps for this (as always) so I honestly think it's only a matter of time, with custom software too I imagine.
This is why I believe in some geo-located communities.
It's easier to find common ground when you're complaining about the same weather.
And then when you're interacting with the wider communities, your host community can give context to your way of thinking.
The unwashed masses (like myself) will eventually change Lemmy. I don’t think it will ruin it completely because the best part about having hundreds of millions of lemmings is the niche communities.
The main instances and communities are going to get shot to hell though. I’ve accepted that.
For anyone who needs a reminder: user account ≠ human individual user. There are no bot/captcha protections nor IP restrictions on Lemmy. I'd say we have less than 1 million actual human individual users.
There are indeed many Lemmy instances that have captcha protection, it's really up to the instance admins if they want to protect or not. Many of those "spam" instances do get quickly defederated by the serious ones.
Yes, but I don't think it matters. It's not hyper specialized yet, but the initial problem of "there are no users" is gone. I don't think anything can stop the fediverse now. The protocol is just too useful to not support.
Speaking of IPOs, I just got an email in one of my old spam accounts, which I used for one of my old Reddit accounts that was like 14 years old. It said I could purchase stock at the same price as private investors or something or other.
The comparison of users to active monthly users sounds about right .... 10 million users with about 1 million active monthly users
The usual ratio of lurkers to creators .. 10 to 1 ... the majority of everyone just browses no matter which platform it is ... it's the same in any social circle since the dawn of time ... there's only a small group of creators and everyone else just like to watch / read / listen
That's what everyone would like us to believe. Everyone has a unique story and background and to me they are all interesting.
It's just that we are all conditioned to think that we are not worthy enough to share our stories. If we believe we aren't worthy ... then we are not. But the opposite is also true, if we believe we are good enough and that our stories are worthy, then they take on a life of their own and become important.
I always enjoy quoting George Carlin because he was a proponent of the power of belief ... society and the individuals in that society believe whatever they want to believe
"I have as much power as the pope ... I just don't have as many people who believe it" - George Carlin
It’s interesting to see how big the Elon musk twitter takeover affected these numbers. The Reddit exodus is so tiny in comparison. Worth noting that the numbers kept going up after that.
Clicking through to the additional statistics is really interesting. The equivalent graph for Monthly Active Users shows a big bump in June/July 2023. That lines up with the reddit event, iirc. If those causality assumptions are accurate, it's neat how the numbers for total users is more affected by Twitter, but the numbers for active users is more affected by Reddit.
EDIT: nevermind, I didn't realize the timelines were different. The big Twitter exodus isn't actually in the second graph, so they can't be compared. It probably had a bigger impact there as well.
Like most of us, I'd love to see more active users. But the limited quantity is of much better quality here. Reddit is a cesspool of cliques and groupthink.
I've always been a lurker, don't talk much even un real life. But here I've been trying to be active. Even if it with something not relevant such as this comment right here
Yeah, how many random accounts were made just by this most recent incident of spam across the fediverse? If there was a new account made for each of those spam posts? Not even talking about alt or abandoned accounts. These numbers are gonna be off because of that stuff, right?
Wouldn't count on it. I was curious what people saying about the IPO news and checked comments. "Where will we go now?“ comes up quite often and very few people even mention Lemmy, at least in the post I looked at.
And I don't think that's bad, I'd rather like users who want to be here and not getting pushed here.
As reddit refugee the biggest plus of lemmy is the ease in which it feels. Almost like visiting Canada from the States... But the longer you stay the difference are clearer.
Ive had to change my habits, I was a lurker on reddit and realize abunch of lurkers moved over and are just looking for traction ans information. I now receive just about all of the news I was learning from reddit and the last push is engagement.
The other added bonus is commenting here is not commenting on reddit. Ppl are interested in a dialogue even if they disagree with your point. This will be what saves lemmy.
So now we have more users than the entire population of the United Arab Emirates (according to worldometers.info), and we could potentially reach the population of Tajikistan soon enough.
Doesnt feel like it. None of the posts here gets more than 2k upvotes so I doubt if we have 10 million users. Probably it might be Facebook app users which are defederated?
This is for the fediverse as a whole, not just Lemmy. If you click through, there's a pie chart that shows the vast majority of users are on Mastodon. Lemmy only accounts for about 4% of these numbers.
that makes sense but 10mil users is hard to believe lol. I tried pixelfed and didn't get any likes on the pics I uploaded, same pic on Instagram fetched 300+ likes.
There's still a 'hot' sorting problem. Popular posts don't appear on it, it's much too bias to new. So lots of things don't get the chance to be upvoted.