…How do these people not realise they’re being scammed? It’s… blatant!
It could only be more obvious if the documents were being held by a Nigerian Prince who wanted to send $1 million along with them! I feel like I could walk up to one of these fools and tell them, “I am actively scamming you, but if you trust me with a few dollars, magical fairies will come and restore you to your prime and grant you and those you love eternal youth, life, and wealth,” and they’d give me everything they could get their hands on!
It would be fun to come up with a grift like this but use the same twisted legalese to claim what they are paying for is worthless. If you can't beat em, join em.
I would worry someone might try to sue you or prosecute you for making fake documents. I’m wondering if I could do a similar grift for the flat earthers. Seems more tricky to capitalize on that but less likely to land you in legal trouble.
I have been so tempted over the years to set up scams for crazy people. Homeopathy, SovCits, crystal healing, Trump fans. My greed is slightly less powerful than the self-loathing I'd endure having to have more contact and immersion in these worlds - to do a good scam, you have to know the domain, talk the talk, and I just can't.
But I don't hate the people scamming these suckers. It isn't like not scamming them is going to help them be less stupid.
Yesterday or so I suggested starting a new sub if this one got busy, but I said the if because with Lemmy as small as it is, it doesn’t need a niche community for everything yet. Someday if there is more plentiful content it might need its own place, but even Reddit funneled most things into r/reddit.com for years.
The following is a list of countries which, on at least one occasion, have recognized the World Passport on a "de facto" basis, by stamping a national visa and/or entry/exit stamp.
I like the fact that they argue their passport isn't fake because some bored / overworked customs guy once stamped it.
Their website has a Legal section as well, but I'm too tired to look through it.
They are for sure including countries that have stamped it "no entry." Technically it has been stamped. I'm pretty sure policy is to stamp a little logo and some check boxes onto whatever document is presented, and if it's not a legit document, it is stamped as such.
"Yeah I'm gonna get me a World Passport and get me out of the weight of all this oppressive government, I might be able to get into... (checks notes) Burkina Faso."
On second thought going to a country which has been hit by proper coups, direct Islamic State interference & has legal slavery may actually be an enlightening experience for the type of people to buy this. Splurge away!
It impresses me with how many stamps of entry they actually collected over time. Even if for some of countries all of the stamp samples are for the same year more than quarter of a century ago
You could have your passport stamped at the tourists' office in Machu Pichu (to show that you have been there). I should have got my world passport stamped! (I took a picture with a Lama instead of doing that queue).
Isn't applying for a passport like this, from any third party, kind of directly counter to what sovcits say they stand for? What with the sending of photos and money to a shadowy organisation to be registered in a database, and all.
I just got a great business idea. World Citizen Bureau of Investigation, LLC. File a World Citizen complaint against any...world citizen. Filing fee of $395.
I'm less familiar with these sovcits but this post got me thinking, what do y'all think the Venn diagram between this type of person and those who complain about "illegal" immigrants looks like? Are these the same nutjob racists or are they a different kind of nutjob?
When you start digging into who is behind the conspiracy, you tend to hit "the Jews" (or a corresponding dogwhistle) pretty reliably, which leads to concerns less about illegal immigrants, and more about brown people.
I had a friend who went from moon landing conspiracism to flat earth, sovcit, Nazi over the course of a couple of years. I called the coming Nazism well over a year ahead of time, and people thought I was nuts. When most conspiracies blame the Jews, I can't understand why people get surprised by it.
That's a bit of 'surprised Pikachu' energy, like what else would you expect if most conspiracies are "[some group based on an arbitrary trait] is in control and hides it"
The exceptions are probably just trollz that went out of control and found real followers, like flat earth
A lot of sovcits are actually black (the Moorish Science Temple has a lot of them for some reason), but they all haaaaaate Jews. Sovereign citizen movement has roots in white supremacy for sure though.
The form may be emailed and then printed. By the magic of sovcittery, it is transmogrified from a form to an application when a personstraw man NATURAL HUMAN BEING fills it out which must be mailed.
Same energy over here in germany. People buy id cards stating they are citizens of the „Deutsches Reich“. Of course there are several groups claiming they are an exile government, succesors, etc. and ripping of delusional people. Frankly, no pity from me.
I feel this about so, so many things. I could probably drop ship so many "let's go Brandon" flags from the cheapest print shop and make a bundle, but then I'd be contributing to that brain-melting stupidity.
You kinda want them to manage to get past the TSA so they can get arrested trying to illegally enter another country and have to decide if getting help from the state department is worth admitting they are a US citizen
How illegal would it be if I set up "services" for these idiots and took their money? I could even advertise as non-legal documents and "spread the rumor" that they totally are legal, it just has to say that.
I'm sure lots of them would freely give me their money for a "count of iceland"-or-whatever-title-that-was-like document.
It's possible that it's the perfect crime. Because this is definitely fraud, but as long as it's a sovcit going after you you have a high chance if beating them in a court of law as long as you have lawyer. Because they will be self representing and spouting complete insanity. You do have a pretty high chance of getting shot though, so do all your business online.
I'm seriously thinking on it. Seriously. Surely a first-year law student could form a disclaimer that would pass muster.
"This product/service/whatever is not legal for use by citizens of the United States of America. This product/service/whatever confers no legal, uh, anything, in an American court of law."
"Not legal tender.", sort of thing. My god, you could take these people with monopoly money.
At this point I'm tired of being a decent, moral man. Why should I not grift these idiots? Why should I not print up Trump flags and Jesus flags? I could sleep at night taking these idiot's money.
They also have to find you when you get the IDs made in HongKong, The passports in Malaysia, all shipped to Uzbekistan in packaging that clearly says "movie props" where they are packaged up and shipped to the customers with no return address, the website is hosted in moldovia and you only accept payment in bitcoin.
I'm not a lawyer nor do I know anything about anything.
But this is an excellent opportunity to look into shell companies, and forming a double llc. It allows you to keep your personal information out of the public.
Lawsuits are laughable and can be ignored with a lawyer. Unless you really fuck up because you made your corporate seal look too similar to a actual government one, customers suing you would be dismissed or can be ignore.
He talks about getting DOT exempt tags...probably bought from somewhere. They probably do not have a driver's license or car registration, so this is them trying to be like "I don't need them. See I paid someone to print this fake passport up for me with my name on it."
I wonder if they realized how fucked they would be if they managed to leave the US, refused entry at the next country, then refused entry back to the US.