The planned order follows years of campaign promises from President Donald Trump to abolish the department — something he cannot do without congressional approval.
Summary
The White House is drafting an executive order to dismantle the Department of Education, aligning with Trump's long-standing pledge.
However, Congress must approve the agency's abolition, making its passage unlikely despite GOP control. Critics, including the National Education Association, warn this move would harm students, increase costs, and weaken protections.
GOP lawmakers have repeatedly attempted to eliminate the department since its 1979 founding.
Trump also recently signed an order expanding school choice, reinforcing the Republican agenda of decentralizing education policy.
Congress is required for all sorts of shit that Elon is doing but that isn’t stopping Elon.
Laws are not some sort of natural force. They are implemented by people and all of those people are either fascists or cowards.
Trumps immunity plus his pardon power make him king. All of his minions can do all the illegal things they want. Trump can then pardon them and he isn’t liable for their crimes if he is doing something roughly in line with his duties are President. John Roberts fucked us all.
The only way this is going to be solved is by people power. Organize. Fight these fascists.
They already blocked organization by controlling the mass media and major social platforms are in cahoots.
Facebook, Twitter/X and tiktok all pushed trump and hid Kamala during the campaign. Not to mention the influencers that got paid to push Trump.
Any type of hashtag or trend that tries to fight back is just going to get pushed down in "the algorithm" or straight up blocked (search kamala on twitter)
That's why word-of-mouth about the Fediverse is so powerful - and why it'll become increasingly important to return to the old methods of organizing - in person, posters put up at night, meetings in basements and in homes, discussions in back alleys and storage closets. Zines and fliers.
Here is a single thing that anyone should be doing, there are other resources elsewhere. But everyone should be working with their unions or forming unions at their places of work. It is surprisingly easy to do, and even MAGA people can recognize they are being fucked by capital. Unionizing the workplace is where our power lies. It is the thing that fascists have always feared. Use those unions to gain concessions from the bosses. Get higher wages, safer work environments, set schedules, etc.
Ok, here is a second idea. Feed your neighbors. Go help feed the homeless folk in your community.
Showing compassion for everyone is a radical act. Build solidarity.
The thing to do to stop this was vote blue no matter who in the 2016 and 2024 elections. Failing that, you'll have to convince 13 Republicans to impeach and remove Donald Trump.
But guess what? That won't happen. No matter what, we're going to see people suffer and violence in the streets. Whether you're keeping yourself safe at home or contributing to the violence is up to you.
Correct. If you want to see how fascism ends, look at pictures of Mussolini's corpse hanging in public. That's the only way it ends. The sooner the better
That's how fascism ended that one time. Francisco Franco died of old age in his bed. So did Pinochet. The generals' junta in Portugal were eased out but the guilty were never held to account. The future is what we make it be. History doesn't write itself.
It might be worth mentioning that Andrew Johnson signed the Department of Education into law in 1867. It was elevated to a cabinet position in 1979 by Carter from it's previous position within the Department of Health, Education, And Welfare.
The idea that the government has a constitutional interest in fostering the education of the public is NOT a new thing contrary to what conservatives would have you believe. An educated populace is an essential function of a representative democracy.
But I can’t figure out why. A society with severe brain drain would lead to reduced quality of life for them as well. Are they just banking on AI to do everything while everyone dies in rebellions and counter-rebellions? Shit, that’s probably it.
Even the moneyed elites should be wary of this since even the regimes were money is the most concentrated in the fewest of hands are proportionally far poorer when their Education systems are bad, probably because o many of the higher value adding businesses require comparativelly well educated workers and even a lot of products require well educated users (who as consumers buy those products).
People who are illiterate, even if only functionally so, can't handle most modern devices, at work or at home.
At least up to a point, the level of Education of the populous is the difference between being a Latin America style Economy or being an European style one.
You are right but many Americans (especially the elites) are raised with concepts like American exceptionalism, social Darwinism, and rugged individualism. They think that rich people deserve what they have because they are better, other countries can't be an example to the US because we are better, and that any idea of people benefitting mutually is communism.
Soon enough, when you have to select a language on a devive, the difference between: english (uk) and english (american) will make a whole lot more sense.
It would have been possible, for example, to say Big Brother is ungood. But this statement, which to an orthodox ear merely conveyed a self-evident absurdity, could not have been sustained by reasoned argument, because the necessary words were not available.
The White House is drafting an executive order a royal decree to dismantle the Department of Education, aligning with Trump's long-standing pledge long con.
Critics An overwhelming consensus of experts, including the National Education Association, warn this move would harm students, increase costs, and weaken protections.
Trump also recently signed an order expanding school choice a decree lowering educational standards, reinforcing the Republican agenda of decentralizing education policy dismantling public secular education in favor of religious and political indoctrination.
There, fixed the "we must obscure reality by using their terms so they won't come after us next" cowardice.
The executive order’s a symbolic gesture—Congress won’t scrap the Department outright. But the subtext? Steady erosion. Shift student debt oversight to Treasury, pare back civil rights investigations, let federal education funds atrophy. States then fill the vacuum: red ones push vouchers, defund “woke” curricula, blue ones scramble to plug gaps.
The playbook’s transparent. Undermine trust in public institutions, then offer “choice” as salvation. Rural GOP districts take the bait, then recoil when their Title I lunches and special ed services evaporate. Even conservatives quietly rely on federal data systems and grant streams—hypocrisy’s baked in.
Latest school choice expansions? Distraction tactics. Real damage accrues in the margins: disabled students lose protections, civil rights complaints backlog, teacher retention plummets. ED’s survived 40 years of GOP vitriol because dismantling it’s all optics, no payoff.
Predictable cycle. Provoke outrage, let chaos incentivize privatization. Rinse, repeat.
Ah, the classic "just do it anyway" approach. Cute, but federal agencies have this pesky thing called statutory authority. Even Elon's crew can't magic away the Administrative Procedure Act. Though watching them try would be... entertaining.
The courts, actually. Been there since Nixon tried similar stunts. Administrative state's got more staying power than most realize. But hey, doom scrolling's more fun than reading SCOTUS precedents.
Rule by decree? My brother in Christ, have you met the federal bureaucracy? Even if they published the order tomorrow, implementation would take years of litigation. Death by a thousand memoranda.
DoE gets in the way of funneling the money to the churches corporations.
Let's not kid ourselves, the churches will get some money for taking the poor kids, but the goal is to privatize education so that corporations can profit from schooling even more than they already have.
I’m just warning you that education is seen as an “investment”, they are already on the capitalist pigs pathway and well with so many fat pigs I think dirty pork would be best to feed the population.
Don't worry, Congress holds the purse/wallet so nothing can get done without their approval as they have the spending power. That is unless they hijack the payment systems to no longer require congress and making complete control one step closer...
I'm so sorry, Americans. I'm not sure who is even able to liberate your country. You and the Russians liberated the camps in Europe at the end of WW2, but who's there for you?
I think you might need to liberate yourself.
Again. I'm sorry. Good luck
Let em keep chopping off the federal government ..... at one point, individual states will start wondering why they are all interconnected in a union that doesn't do anything or provide any benefits any more and start acting like independent nations.
The foes of Western Rome wished for its collapse, skip forward a couple hundred years and Charlemagne conqeured as far as Carpathia. Nowadays things most far faster, I suspect the voide would be filled by better organized states who will have roughly the same foreign policy within a decade maybe less.
DARK GOTHIC MAGA: How Tech Billionaires Plan to Destroy America
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wow! ... thanks for that link and that video. An unbelievable wrap up and investigation and indepth analysis of what this new US government is aiming for. A serious watch that everyone should listen to.
Shit is getting done so scattershot, I think there's a really, really good chance that a lot of records are going to fall through the cracks or "fall through the cracks" as different databases are deleted, offices closed, code based altered, and agencies demolished.
Yeah probably... I'm also ~1 year of payments away from Public Service Loan Forgiveness. Just waiting for the letter/email telling me they're clawing it back.
Most of my student loans are with a private lender anyway, and it's 1000x worse than the federal loans. They don't even have repayment plans. If you can't pay the minimum (which doesn't even cover the entire principal), well fuck you too bad
Good luck to your kids and grandkids, education is fucked. Back to the feudal times where only royalty and the rich were educated. If this passes I am not paying student loans anymore. The department that issued them will be gone so why pay.
I mean that's the point right? It took a lot of work to get the populous this dumb. Imagine what those that have risen to power can get away with if we make people even dumber!
Literally what the fuck are we paying taxes for, they are dismantling every bit of representation of the people possible. Well only have ruch fucks and bombs left to pay for.
Legitimately considering calling my HR and changing my tax status so I don't pay any tax on my paychecks. I won't be filing. Why in the actual fuck would I continue to pay taxes. I cant even tell what it would go towards at this point. Can someone honestly tell me? Where are the taxes taken off my next paycheck going to go? I could just buy a blue checkmark if I wanted to enrich elon directly.
Right, but do away with the federal income tax, and good luck ever getting it back. That would be the final nail in the coffin, and the end of the United States of America.
You laugh, this is literally Curtis Yarvin's (one of Elon's mentors) vision of America. A patchwork of corporatocratic fiefdoms, technically beholden to a federal government that basically only exists to be the arm of violence. The whole "no authority higher than a county sheriff" thing? Came out of his books. The idea of being "educated" will only be for the vaunted manager-class. All of us not lucky enough to be in the millionaire's club, or one of their trusted lackeys, will be lucky to know how to read beyond a 3rd-grade level, or do math beyond simple arithmetic.
For this reason, if you have anything with at least 32 GB of RAM and a GPU, you should get a copy of Ollama and test it out running a local copy of Deepseek. That's going to soon become the best 0 new dollars tool for access to education.
Knowledge is power, and the GOP can't have educated people around...gotta keep that shit in check and keep our kids stupid so they can't ask questions, you know?
When the capitol of the country is possibly thousands of miles away, and missing work means losing health insurance and becoming homeless, it terrifies a lot of people that can't even miss one day of work for being sick, let alone the days' journey and expense it would take. Much longer than the maximum 8 hour drive it would take to get from anywhere in Germany to Berlin, by comparison.
Not an excuse either, the US is just huge, and set up for citizens to fail if they actually stand up.
I'd love to be at the protests tomorrow. Why it's on a weekday I'm not sure, but my capitol is hours away, and I work. I just started a new job and barely make enough to make ends meet until I get my first commission checks. I wasn't working for months prior.
I'm sure the "servicers" will continue to collect. Republicans went out of their way to file a suit on behalf of one of them that triggered relief getting blocked.
Don't worry, they will make sure to close all of the loopholes that might actually benefit the working class.
As someone who's got ~1 year left of payments on his Public Service Loan Forgiveness, I'm just waiting for the news that it's been cancelled and my loans will not be forgiven.
Yeah, you would think that would get rid of the loans, but realistically they'll just sell the loans to some bank, and then a political solution to debt forgiveness becomes completely impossible.
Remember when Bush pushed the "No Child Left Behind Act", and we all realized the federalization of control over education was deeply problematic and removed democratic control over education? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
The government not handling every social function in society isn't scary on its own. That in combination with the people as a whole having no control over the economy is when that becomes nasty (i.e., economic inequality). That is of course the vision of the ruling class.
My honest guess? A misinformation campaign and a complete misunderstanding of Cheetolini’s platform which had quite a few fill in the blanks type “policies”, that made people imagine whatever they wanted into his campaign promises.
This is one people should seriously protest to fucking stop. Education is the one thing that levels the playing field for people across different socioeconomic backgrounds. Get on the phone to your representatives, this is the main one they were working towards and wanted to distract from!
I had no idea the DOE federal Education Department was that recently created. Having grown up in a deep red state I feel like a veil was suddenly lifted from me, and now I can see how even more fucked up my older relatives’ education must have been compared to mine (already pretty fucked up!).
The planned order follows years of campaign promises from Trump to abolish the federal Education Department, which was established in 1979, during President Jimmy Carter's administration.
Oops, mixed that up with the federal Education Department. Thanks for the correction!
Hey evryone!! Big mooves are hapening in the world of Ed-U-Kashun! The Departmint of Edukation is gettin the boot!!! No more bossy beurocratz teling teechers what 2 do!!! Trumps doin it, an its about TIME!!
Thnik about it—why do we need a bunch of folks in Washintun teling local skools how 2 run??? It’s like they no better then us parints and edukaytors. Time too cut the kord and let fredom RING!!
But wate, some peepul are crying fowl!! The NEA an other groops are UPSET becuz they cant keep there grip on things. They want MORE RULEZ an HIGER TAXIS so they can stay in charge!?!? Can u beleev that?? It’s all about KEEPING POWER, NOT HELPIN KIDS!!!
Without the DOE skools can save monee an stop following outdate rulez!! Teechers can TEACH how THEY WANT and studants can LERN at THERE own pace!!! It’s like a fresh start 4 evryone!!!
And dont 4get Trumps skool choice oder!!! Now, local leeders can decide what wurks BEST for there kidz!! No more distunt beurocrats messing things UP!!
So, let’s MAKE IT HAPEN!!! The Dept of Edukashun is HISTORY!!! Skool choice is on the table, an local leeders are READY to take CHARGE!! Who needs a Dept of Ed when you got SMART FOLKS makin desishuns 4 ur kidz?? LETS GO EDUKASHUN FREDOM!!!
the federal department does some very important assistance to state departments and students, but it is worth noting that states do basically all of the actual control and management of schools