GoFundMe races to remove fundraising pages supporting Luigi Mangione
GoFundMe races to remove fundraising pages supporting Luigi Mangione
GoFundMe pages are the latest example of support for Luigi Mangione, and the public's frustration with the health insurance industry.
"We are raising funds to support a critical legal defense in the fight against unchecked corporate power and a system that continues to favor the few over everyone else. This case isn't just about one individual—it's about challenging a status quo that protects the interest of the powerful at the expense of justice and fairness," read one of the fundraising pages that was quickly removed by GoFundMe.
So where can we donate?
Probably with a check directly to his lawyer, if at all.
During the Great Depression, people were so angry at banks that they rooted for bank robbers. Things are so bad now that we're just straight up rooting for cold-blooded executions. Censoring people's online activities won't make this anger go away. The genies out of the bottle now, and if billionaires don't want any more dead CEOs, there will need to be fundamental, radical changes to our society.
if billionaires don't want any more dead CEOs, there will need to be fundamental, radical changes to our society.
OR...they raise premiums to pay for more security.
I mean, I'm sure they will, but I doubt it will make a difference. Trump almost got it twice this summer. He's only alive because he was incredibly lucky the first time, and the second time, the shooter was incompetent. Meanwhile, in the last 25 years, schools have added metal detectors, more police, active shooter drills, and bullet-proof walls, but it's only amounted to security theater. I'm sure there will never be another assassin who escapes and leads police on a 5-day manhunt, but there are too many guns in America to prevent a guy with a death wish from gunning down a CEO or billionaire.
Reddit just banned me for saying I support Luigi in his monster slaying quest and hope there’s more heroes out there.
Say, what’s the Lemmy policy on being real? I don’t really care. I’ll say it in person as well as any online platform, and if I’m banned from them all then I’ll just read books and shit.
then I’ll just read books and shit.
That's how I use the toilet!
Depends on the instance, I hear LemmyWorld doesn't really like it.
Billionaires deserve to live in fear.
"In fear" are the key words here.
If I stole hundreds of dollars from people in my town and my name was public information, I'd be scared shitless.
Billionaires steal millions and not just in dollars. The way I see it, Luigi took out a serial killer, not a businessman.
I would like to remind everyone that while I do wish the worst for billionaires, I do not legally condone violence of any kind. I will however smile if I hear about bad things happening to bad people.
The genies out of the bottle now, and if billionaires don't want any more dead CEOs, there will need to be fundamental, radical changes to our society.
I don't expect radical changes. I expect them to make the minimal concessions they believe to be enough to make people just happy enough to not depose more CEOs
I actually don't expect CEOs and billionaires to make any concessions. Honestly, this is how I imagine the next few years going:
Right now, billionaires are waking up to the fact that the majority of Americans want them dead. CEOs will start beefing up security while politicians and pundits try to spin this, and they'll all hope this was a one-off. It won't be. Sure, there probably won't be another assassin who escapes and leads police on a five day manhunt, but there will surely be a guy with an AR-15 who takes out billionaire or CEO before getting gunned down himself by cops or private security.
Billionaires will start lobbying for protections from Congress, probably through special treatment from federal law enforcement and a push for gun control. This will only further enrage the public, who have faced mass shootings in schools and churches without any response. On top of that, the Trump administration is gearing up for an era of naked corruption, which is going to make the billionaire class even less popular
All in all, I think we're heading towards a period of political instability and violence. Maybe it will end with public rage being channeled into a series of reforms like FDR managed with the New Deal. Maybe we'll devolve even further into oligarchy and authoritarianism as American society collapses. Either way, I think there will be radical change.
Anyway, that's my theory. Maybe I'm wrong, and this will be a blip, but I don't think so. This feels like a very different, very significant moment.
That'd still be helpful, last time they gave us "Just enough to put down the pitchforks."
That was the "New Deal"
They let the guy who leaked Trump’s tax returns hold a gofundme, but folks didn’t really help him out as much as he needed.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/charles-littlejohns-legal-defense-fund
This situation has me pondering 2 hypotheticals.
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How long until people start posting the names of individuals perceived as traitors (eg the McSnitch, the journalists shilling for Thomson, the politicians leading the charge against Mangione, etc)?
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Can he realistically be tried at all? A broad cross section of people are really supportive of Mangione. We're in such a weird timeline that I could potentially imagine groups like Black Block and Proud Boys standing side-by-side on this one.
If they could get bank robbers convicted in the 1920's they'll get someone to convict Mangione. Unfortunately the offline world is a lot more split about this.
Have they proven to that Luigi was the guy who killed trigger?
We have seen nothing to prove this.
Doesnt need to be, they have already turned him into the lightning rod. Regardless of his innocence or guilt he is the focus now.
- buckle up shits gonna get weird.
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Did they allow Rittenhouse to use GoFundMe?
Surely, Luigi is innocent until proven guilty too.
When you’re only targeting poor people, they let you do it. You can kill anyone.
Just checked on that because I was curious. Looks like they only allowed fundraising for Rittenhouse once he had been acquitted.
No, they didn't. This is the part where you realize cheering on control of one side will come back to bite your side eventually. Now the only path he'll have are those conservative-based fundraiser sites. Funny how that works out
Eh? I never cheered anything on. If anything I would want all sides to be treated equally. Either you’re allowed to open a fund me for criminal defence or you’re not.
I don’t choose what I support based on my political leaning and I think anybody that does is a dishonest person.
Edit: I was merely asking a question as I recall funds being raised for Rittenhouse, I just didn’t recall which site.
Huh? Isn't he entitled to the best defence he can get?
Innocent until proven guilty, remember.
I was going to make a joke about how crowd funding legal fees is only OK for ex presidents and right wings nutjobs, but I thought somebody might not understand the sarcasm and agree.
Canada shut down banking for the redneck convoy...
Any time the regime is challenged, you can't use your money
If he's got money which according to reports his family does, then they can hire the best lawyer they can afford. If he doesn't have money then he gets an overworked public defender juggling 30 cases.
More like 100
Innocent until I abolish the state kinetically
...But it's okay for people to run many, many GoFundMe pages that support Trump's legal affairs. Got it.'
Absolutely a double standard but an easy to imagine one. I was just thinking how the right used GoFundMe for that racist prick Rittenhouse (among others).
Can we just have our class warfare already? It's ok to kill black folks not heaven forbid you actually eat the rich.
What's most ironic to me is that gofundme is often used by those who have been denied insurance coverage to get help to pay for medical treatment. I guess at this point they're just dipping into the "please support the salt party, as slugs for salt, that's where we want our money to go."
The US healthcare system being fucked is literally GoFundMe's sole business case.
GoFundMe also removed fundraisers for Rittenhouse's legal defense.
The ban was only lifted after he was acquitted.
Don't eat the rich, that's inefficient (and unappetizing, as the vast majority are a majority of plastic, etc.) Use them as fertilizer and feed the world. 🤌🏼 Get that polymer-eating mycelium, and we're really cookin' without a fossil-fueled doom, eh?
There is a lesson in there... Learn it
They're fucking terrified. The reaction of the public to this assassination has shocked them. They understand that they need to crush this guy and they need to crush the swell of public support or this is the end of unfettered capitalism. When the few have everything and the many have nothing the many rise up and take back everything and the cycle starts again. Every single dollar in every rich guy's bank account came from the hard work of non-rich people. There are thousands of them and hundreds of millions of us. We can just rise up and take what they have. They have to stop this before it builds and before the majority realize that we can do it.
They expected us to go "We don't condone violence!" or "Think of the billionaires!"
They weren't ready for him to go down as a folk heroes, and honestly if it weren't for places like Lemmy he wouldn't have because the corponet will ban your ass for cheering at this.
This seems hypocritical to me, but also I would caution against anyone supporting a GoFundMe or any crowdfunding with a high profile persons name on it because I wouldn't trust the organizer to just take the money and run.
I'm confused. Why is this not allowed? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
GoFundMe’s terms and conditions, however, are pretty clear. Users agree they will not use the platform for, among other things “the legal defense of financial and violent crimes, including those related to money laundering, murder, robbery, assault, battery, sex crimes, or crimes against minors.”
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But running Trump defense funds is OK?
Thanks! I should have figured they just blanket block some stuff.
It's actually guilty until proven rich.
Because it's only a democracy until u start getting into interests of a ruling class.
he should make a patreon page to support his art.
I know it's off-topic but your instance's name makes me feel uneasy.
I get that a lot. I just like what originalucifer wrote in the about and faq. If I did not already have a handle I have been having fun with for awhile I would make one inspired by his.
This guy doesn't need a GoFundMe.
He could start an Only Fans where he talked about his ideas with his shirt off and he'd be set for life, or at least until Nintendo sued him off the Internet.
I’d pay for that.
The consistent creation of fundraising pages of Mangione follows the macabre reaction much of the public has had to the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.
More like the perfectly reasonable reaction.
They either can't see what's going on, or they can't admit it in case it encourages solidarity among the poors.
"We are raising funds to support a critical legal defense in the fight against unchecked corporate power and a system that continues to favor the few over everyone else. This case isn't just about one individual—it's about challenging a status quo that protects the interest of the powerful at the expense of justice and fairness," read one of the fundraising pages that was quickly removed by GoFundMe.
If GoFundMe picks and chooses who gets to abide by their terms and who doesn't, can people challenge them in court? TOS includes: Users agree they will not use the platform for, among other things “the legal defense of financial and violent crimes, including those related to money laundering, murder, robbery, assault, battery, sex crimes, or crimes against minors.” Why is this different for Luigi than Trump? How can one be denied and the other given a pass, legally?
How can one be denied and the other given a pass,
Unfortunately I think the honest answer is something like “fuck off, pleb”
legally?
Oh sorry, I missed that last word there. In that case I think the answer is something like “fuck off, counselor”
One might also want to consider the possibility that this is not the shooter or he is a patsy. Not that you shouldn't support them in any of these cases. Just be aware as this [word like shitshow but that doesn't do it justice] develops.
This. The guy in the thumbnail is now the face of anti establishment and the subject of desire by thousands, regardless of whether he did it or not. It's a different guy.
The blue maga conspiracy theories begin!
Pretty sure this one crosses ideological boundaries and has support with standard MAGAts as well.
What's crazy is that Trump and vance could read the room and drastically change the US forever by using the hate that people have for insurance companies to dismantle their influence.
But instead these crooks are going to enrich themselves and leave office (maybe) dismantling and hurting the people that voted them into office. As bad as 2016-2020 was, I think it'll pale in comparison to how bad things will get. If you aren't putting money away towards your 401k, do it now. Because rebuilding healthcare, housing, education, and other crucial regulatory functions of the government is going to take a long time. Especially if we lose any liberal USSC judges. It will be harrowing for the poor and middle class. More so if you are a person of color, lgbtq, or any ethnic minority.
Minor edit
As we all know, they aren’t even in the room. They exist on another floor of the building. One with air conditioning. They could give us air conditioning, but it’s more fun to make us blame each other for it being so hot.
No it won't. It will pale in comparison.
We've been here before with wikileaks. I believe there's a certain digital solution that many of us discovered around that time.
A community effort to send in handwritten checks is probably the safer bet. If his public defender is worth anything (unlikely), they'll try to use the public support to hire a stronger legal defense team.
Any idea how we can add to his canteen fund?
After he is arraigned (first appearance before a judge) AND assuming bail is set in an amount he cannot pay AND that he is held in Rikers (HUGE safety concerns) you can look him up here and then send money for commissary and sometimes pay bail.
https://a073-ils-web.nyc.gov/inmatelookup/pages/home/home.jsf
I believe you must provide personally identifying information to send money/pay. There is no guarantee that the City won’t try to find a way to seize money sent.
Edit: typo
TBH a lot of them are probably fake and never would have given any money to Luigi.
Don't get scammed like a dumb bitch.
Dont get scammed...
Once you find a proper place, use crypto.
If you don't know how to do any of this. Stop. Learn. Then come back.
Seriously! When I think of not getting scammed I immediately think of all my crypto
lol. Jk. I for sure don't understand it, tho I can see it's value, personally
lol so when you pull your money out you’re immediately marked by the Feds? Crypto isn’t magic dude, in fact it’s extremely traceable. Only scammers want you to believe it isn’t.
I doubt USD will be permitted for donations here lol
Just don't waste your fucking money unless you know what you are doing.
Somebody should create a page for Green Mario. might fly under the radar until some snitch squeals.
He is from a wealthy family... Until you see something formal. Don't waste your money.
I wonder if he has a Zelle
good.
Bootlicker
naw, not my type of fetish, im more into licking other things
Lemmy: "EAT THE RICH!"
Also Lemmy: "I DEMAND THE RIGHT TO DONATE MONEY TO THE RICH!"
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp9nxee2r0do
"He attended a private, all-boys high school in Baltimore, called the Gilman School, according to school officials. Mr Mangione was named as the valedictorian, which is usually the student with the highest academic achievements in a class.
He comes from a prominent family in the Baltimore area whose businesses include a country club and nursing homes, according to local media.
He is reportedly the cousin of Republican state lawmaker Nino Mangione."
'Eat the rich' because as a class they take everything and give nothing. Cancer. They sow an unfathomable amount of death and suffering in the name of greed.
An individual from a rich family who just gave up his freedom to slay a healthcare equivalent of a tyrant? Yeah that's not the person 'eat the rich' is talking about.
100%. systemic problems != personal problems. It is just bigotry to assume that because somebody was born with or without money that they fit some cookie cutter definition of a rich person or a poor person. Demonize the system, not the people. People can only be praised/blamed for their individual actions.
was named as the valedictorian, which is usually the student with the highest academic achievements in a class.
"This guy was the smartest person in school, get him!"
Fuck off.
Edit: Alternatively, "Robin Hood was the best marksmen, get him!"
His upbringing doesn't necessarily mean anything with regard to current state. My grandparents were rich and I was homeless. They put my dad and his siblings through uni (though have since disowned one), but I have student loans. Maybe he is still close and has access to all that money, but this feels a bit jump-to-conclusion-y
Keep in mind, everyone, jordanlund is the same guy who said he didn’t like BLM because they sometimes inconvenienced him.
No, I don't like BLM because they only care about black lives when white cops are the perpetrators.
You have a black kid killed somewhere by gang violence? BLM is suddenly fucking silent.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Hadiya_Pendleton
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2015/12/31/dunbar-slayings-prompt-a-rethinking-of-black-lives-matter/