Can we just move on from the US 2024 election?

Move on? No.

The next 4 years are going to be awful. Your choices are pretty much to fight like hell to limit the damage to your community, tune it all out to protect yourself from the stress, or find a way out of the country, at least until after the next election (god willing).

In that case can we just focus more on other things?
- You a white cis male?
dont count on another election. scotes threw that out of the ring. if biden could anull the election snd stop the switch, you can bet trump will do it

No.

There's no moving on from this, it's the last peaceful election we are gonna get.

The idiots trying to downplay this are going to be very suprised in 3-4 years when they get drafted so the Republicans can declare martial law and stay in power for life
- Who's we? I'm not even in the same hemisphere as the dumpster fire that is the USA.

Ask us again in four years... I fucking hope.

and do what? carry on like nothing changes for worse? yknow, plain water is better for you than koolaid

Sure!

So how about this climate change huh? Ecological collapse in just a couple of decades from what I hear. And really no one with significant power anywhere doing anything but speeding it up.

Discuss.

If the past is any indicator of the future then we can expect the next four years to be non-stop Trump posting.

If trump would stop being a weird fascist people would stop talking about him, just saying...
Please no...
- Sensible Erection (reddit precursor) had to spin off a-whole-nother site, Sensible Election for the '04 (I think?) election and aftermath.

Are people dumb enough to think our world is going to continue as it has, just keep making memes, move on? We done fucked up, there will be nothing to move on to.

Right? That was possibly the last election for president our country will hold. No, I can't just move on from it.

Like Biden will likely have to leave the country once he's no longer president, along with his whole family. Taylor Swift might have to leave. Who knows what this raging narcissist will do.

A man who will rape, which is sexual torture, doesnt care about you or your body except how it pleases him. Including killing you. We are very fucked. He will punish us until his narcissistic ego feels satiated.

The US has the top military budget and nuclear weapons, which was just given to an open fascist who is clearly in the pocket of a foreign power, which has an interest in destroying our country.
With that mentality you are screwed regardless.

Chill
- No. You and we all are too. Unless you Simpson the result this is it. The end. Go pic your damn last song for your and everyone's life you got, maybe, 5 years left but I doubt that much.

yeah, in 4 years

That’s very optimistic
- Get your gasoline now.
I just want normal memes...
- Apathy does feel a lot better than engaging with reality
- Some of us care about the country.

No. No, we can't "move on" from the election, because elections have consequences. We will never be able to "move on" because we will be continuously fucked by those consequences, in the ass with no lube, for the rest of our lives.

Even if Trump and the GOP give up power and the US holds free and fair elections in four years, an absolute fuck-ton of permanent damage will have been done in the meantime.

There are so many things at stake, but people really don't know how bad Trump's supreme court has fucked the environment already. Getting the average voter to care about it won't happen until it's far too late. I try to just not think about it.
Like, what exactly? States are still moving forward with their climate change plans. The states who aren't, have a very small impact and are largely canceled out by those who do. Deportations will likely go up, support for Ukraine will likely evaporate, but the impact to citizens inside of the US are largely unchanged. The economy isn't going to change course, and we've been getting fucked in the ass with no lube by all of our administrations going back to Reagan. The ceiling isn't falling, it's been fallen for quite some time.
- You have no idea how bad shit is about to get:
  
  Enjoy the read:
  
  https://www.project2025.org/
- I sincerely hope you’re right
- How dare you challenge them with scary things like logic and reason

Ironic! This post is a direct violation of rule 2. No politics.

That rule clearly isn't being enforced at all, have you seen the state of this place?
- So. It’s okay to break them if there’s no one that will enforce them…..
  
  Hmmm, that certainly sounds familiar.
If you haven't noticed that's all of Lemmy. This is the last post I will make that is political related.
- I saw this post earlier and figured it was more of a meta post about discussions on Lemmy rather than a political post itself, but the thread is getting too heated for a meme community, and I'm going to lock.
- Maybe delete it since it violates the rules anyway? Should help with your issues with political posts everywhere also.

Can we just move on from the US 2024 election?

Yeah sure. Just find someone who can put me in a medical coma, and I'll 'forget' all about it.

"Can we just get over the fact that your foot is blown off? It's bumming me out."

No

When has apathy ever backfired though??
- When 15 million voters who could have swayed the election said "fuck it". 15 million voters who voted democrat in 2020, that is.
- I'm not sure what apathy is and I don't care!

This election is likely going to be looked back on as the point when things became completely untenable in the 21st century. The American empire will implode, billions will suffer, the climate emergency will accelerate to maximum, and geopolitical dynamics will become incredibly unstable. Shit is about to go fully awry. This was it, and the people who are already bored about it have played no small part in getting us here.

After 10 years, there will be no megafauna looking back at anything. We extincted ourselves and the planet. By far the stupidest species is us, and the IQ test was whether we could just not kill ourselves with our own waste. There's a species of insect in Africa that's lived on 1 rock for thousands of years and they are smarter than us in this regard.

We passed 7 of 9 planetary boundaries. We don't talk about this or even the possible election interference that occurred because our media and journalism is broken. I can see personal videos on people's personal accounts of the flooding in Spain, yet media in the US is failing to report extensively on this especially as a climate disaster. People literally believe that the government controls the weather before they believe that climate change is real (and please make sure to attribute all the increasingly bad disasters under Trump to him specifically).

I have had conversations about why basic rights are necessary. Conversations where I'm citing the fucking constitution and posting videos of speeches from the fucking 60s. I have to explain why ableism is bad.

Fascism is, frankly, part of the human collective psyche. It's akin to an autoimmune response, so much so that there's biochemical markers* in common with both states. The only way to calm down fascism is either let it eat itself (aka lots of death), or to be a collective anti-inflammatory. This means looking at things like Buddhist ideals of detachment and peace, Muslim ideals of charity (they invented the first hospitals which were free), Christian ideals of gathering together. Soothe and redirect (like a toddler) people who engage in inflammatory and violent speech. Win people over (being othering and exclusive is inflammatory - saying you can't stand Trump voters is inflammatory and part of why those Trump people like Trump and Christianity - they include the deplorables).

And btw if political structures are akin to lymphatic system, journalism and communications are our nervous system. Just like in the body, one can attack and modify the other - our autoimmune response has severely damaged our nervous system and we kinda have the societal equivalent of relearning from a stroke in some ways.

*So much so that often a key dogwhistle for fascist speech is othering someone by calling them a tumor, parasite, cancer. Biochemicals responsible - low oxytocin (which is why they are pedophiles), histamine, mast cells, cortisol draining. See the undereye wasting of people in high stress including that little boy who was lost in the woods and in meth addicts
Oh good grief.
- You think I'm being melodramatic? Historians make careers on turning points like this. We can never know exactly what will happen next, but we can at least be sure that normality is not on the menu.
- Yeah, it's dramatic nonsense to assume Trump will do what he and his party said he'll do.
  
  ..
  
  Do I need this? /s
- nice apathy + username combination
  
  don't worry- things have been stable since mcdonalds! nothing can change, just ask Turkey

Yes! Can we go back to exchanging funny memes and cute animal videos with each other again? Please?

Lemmy: I'm sorry Dave I'm afraid I can't do that

"He was only stabbed 23 times on the floor of the senate. We need to move on ... and then finish wiping up the floor."

Sounds pretty fucking privileged that you even have the option of moving on from the topic

I haven't seen anything productive in any of the conversations about it I've looked at. Just fingerpointing at who's to blame. It's pointless to argue now.
- You might be right, but sometimes we sort through things by saying the wrong things first.
It is pretty easy to do. You just move on.
- Kinda hard to 'move on' while watching other people across the pond lose their human rights and possibly getting invaded by Russia myself.
- What an awful thing to say.
- Well you can be cold and dissociated from reality, but the rest of us get to feel our feelings too. Why don't you just move on that we aren't moving on? Why don't you just, idk, shut up, since you are all for shutting up? Lead by example.

Those who choose to abstain from politics submit to being ruled by their inferiors.

Or maybe I just don't see the point of all this. The election is over and there is nothing that can be done if you fear Trump. Most Americans supported him so clearly thats what the majority wants for better or for worse.
- "Submit and get over it!" 🤡

Lucky for you thanks for MAGA and non voters there will not be another free US election

Until 4 years from now

We have a system of checks and balances for a reason
- ...between the branches of government, which the R's just swept. Add in the fact that the supreme Court just gave the president criminal immunity if it's "official" (a term they define), and who exactly is going to check and balance?
- Yeah and the ONLY check and balance that stopped Trump from taking over on Jan 6th was MIKE PENCE and he is no longer an obstacle

Considering it affects a lot of people, negatively, it is rightfully a topic.

It has impacted no one yet. It is only November
- Which means it's time to prepare. Get out of the states, change name/gender, try to minimize (ecological) contact with the USA etc.

As a Brazilian nervously watching the unfolding of a potentially global mess, I bring you the best Brazil can offer: memes! Here's a pretty relatable one (Original cartoon from Maurício de Souza, Turma da Mônica)

Lemmy in a nutshell

Ngl seeing the American left wing bubble burst is wild and entertaining. I mean, I would never want Trump to be elected but people have gotten a huge reality check of what sort of online environment they were exposed to.

Ngl, seeing the naivete and ignorance about what just happened is wild and entertaining.
It is crazy to me all the things I've heard people just casualty say. There are people who straight up think he is going to start creating death camps.

He might not create policies you like but he is the president not a fascist dictator from WWII
- Read up, bud;
  
  https://www.project2025.org/
- He literally promised to create concentration camps.
  
  He is also a known liar, and I personally believe he'll deliver that one partially to a small ratio that is still horrible but too small to count as the promise. But I can't really fault people from fearing it's not a lie.
- You don't understand he said this will be the last election. That's obviously one of the few truths out of his mouth among the millions of lies.
- His ex wife, who he possibly murdered, said under oath he kept a book of Hitler's speeches on his bedside table. He may not be Hitler, but he's emulating him as close as possible. He will kill the entire planet. AMOC collapse is underway. We are all actively dead now. Good luck.
- Right? It's insane.

This is a big topic after all so there is no way one can just "move on".

In that case can you move to the dedicated political communities then?
- I'll move my foot to its dedicated spot in your ass.
  
  Red Foreman

That's accurate to how I feel inside. GOP got it all. So nothing can really stop their agenda. Which sucks if you're not white male.

A rich white male.
- Add Christian and cishet to that.
- Just being rich is plenty. Sooner we collectively understand that, the better.
- Good point! If you are poor you are not in the club.
  
  Next time don't be poor duh.
judging by project 2025 they can stop their own agenda by not being able to agree what it is.
- I thought the image would reflect the GOP right now. Instead here I am with egg on my face.
  
  Unfortunately, one thing with GOP is they may disagree but tend to fall in line.
Except that is not really true...

Trump may not be in line with your political beliefs but somehow I doubt all of the crazy stuff I've heard said. He isn't creating death camps or deporting democrats to Mexico.
- Project 2025 is now in play. Abortion ban, porn ban, removal of federal employees who aren't "loyal" enough. The only saving grace is that Republicans can't govern for shit, so there's going to be a lot of wasted time on infighting. Not enough, though, since a lot of it can be pushed through by the president alone.
  
  Oh! And the oldest, most conservative SCOTUS justices will retire, solidifying the conservative super-majority on the court for the next 20-40 years. The only way to change that is to change the makeup of the court, which requires a trifecta. So yes, it isn't the end of the world, but it isn't "no big deal" either.
  
  In order to undo the damage, we have to fundamentally change the Democrat Party to be just as far left as the Republicans have moved right. And that took them over a decade to accomplish (and they have the easier task, since big business wants both parties to move right).

Attention everyone there was a major US election that took place 2 days ago resulting in Trump winning

If you get on social media for the next month (probably more) you are going to see politics unless you filter it out or get off social media

Can we just accept reality and move on?

What's the worse thing that could happen? People are freaking out like the world is ending but we have had arguably worse presidents historically
- When have we had someone with a worse agenda than Project 2025? When was the last time someone threatened to become a dictator in this country? When was the last time the president who advocates for the encampment of all "illegals" was given the house, senate, and courts, allowed to do whatever they wanted with their cult of personality following their every whim? What the fuck kind of presidents do you think we've had previously?!?
If you don't see it it's not happening.