That mascot is a child. Please don't make porn of fictional children even if you disagree with the politics or religion of that fictional child you're making porn out of. Child porn is a bad thing
If she's drawn as an adult like the pucture used for the pist I don't think it would be a problem anymore, you can't really lock down a fictional character's age it just comes down to features their drawn with and I guess if someone feels the need to go out of thier way to give an age
Doesn't matter. It is a depiction of a child. The "Oh it's actually a 10 billion year old dragon, she just looks and acts like she's 8" is not a credible defense. And don't pull "that's not what I said or am implying", regardless it's an image of a child no matter how you try spinning it, real or not. CP is CP.
Nobody except pedos will argue that child abuse is bad. AI cartoon porn in my opinion is fine. It's a victimless crime. Literally nobody gets hurt. There is no studies confirming that someone who watches pedo cartoons will end up doing real life child abuse, in fact some studies show the opposite effect.
I welcome AI porn. Cartoon or real life looking. Zero real women get taken advantage of and we get to pick whatever kink we want knowing that nobody was hurt in the making of the AI porn.
I agree. Its always a tough stance. Its like ultimately I want nazis to be able to speak freely as long as they don't actually do the stuff they spout. As far as im concerned when you try to ban stuff not in reality you are in the realm of trying to ban thought.
The "kink" you are picking is drawn child porn. I don't care if nobody was directly hurt by your consumption of drawn child porn you are consuming child porn. You are a pedophile. Somebody attracted to children sexually.
I don't care if studies showing pedophiles who watch drawn child porn aren't likely to offend. They are pedophiles. I know it's a wild thing to state but I don't like pedophiles. The debate on legality due to harm reduction is another thing all-together but at no point did I bring that up. I only asked that we not support or make AI porn of fictional children.
Your support of a subset of child porn, particularly AI and drawn is noted though. Thank you for stating as much.
Edit: becauae y'all seem to wanna put words in my mouth: I also think that sexualized cartoons of children is bad. I never said otherwise. I'm referring to the US federal legal definition.
I shouldn't need to define child porn but here's a definition:
Sexually gratifying content involving the sexualization of children.
This fictional child is a child. Porn of that child is child porn. Drawn, generated, or any other way this is child porn.
I've heard the "it's just pixels" argument before and can't accept that. If we can recognize that the pixels are pornographic, that they represent the character lucy, and that lucy is a child we can agree that this is porn of a child. Child porn.
Googling “Luce porn” immediately surfaced sites where people are posting what appears to be handmade images of exactly that (click at your own risk), but searching Civitai specifically, a site which makes AI-generating porn of anyone and anything extremely easy, turned up the real motherlode.
I gotta say, the choice to write this article itself is questionable. It's obvious this stuff would exist to anyone familiar with the internet, but describing the images in lurid detail and saying exactly how to get them complete with direct links, kinda sus.
Remember kids! Jesus was best friends with a prostitute. This is in fact something God and Jesus would approve of....probably. If she's the kind of lady who's down with Jesus and only does stuff with other ladies when a guy is also involved, then I think Jesus and God would be cool with her.
While none of these models were explicitly tagged NSFW that I noticed, and don't bill themselves with NSFW images, Pony Diffusion is trained on NSFW images and thus brings that knowledge to derived models. It can understand Danbooru tags, which include a fair number of sexual acts, sexual poses, fetish clothing, sex toys, and suchlike.
I'd also assume that if Luce catches on, general models not specifically intended for generating images of Luce will also learn what Luce looks like as images containing Luce make their way into their training corpuses; that would presumably include NSFW general models.
EDIT: No, I take it back. This Pony-Diffusion-based model, this, and this one do use NSFW images in their example image list if one cycles through the whole list of images. It may have been hidden before, as I was checking the site anonymously, and I believe the civitai default is to hide NSFW content. Also, this model has some suspiciously well-endowed Luce images in its example image list, and this model doesn't have nudity in its example images, but does have Luce flipping the viewer the bird in an example image, which I imagine is probably sacrilegious.
As someone not logged in or with an account I keep getting
These images hidden for mature content settings
From swiping through those thumbnails so.... I'm taking they are able to generate some NSFW images just fine.
Honestly who is using AI generation for anything but that? I've only heard about fursonas and D&D stuff as well but let's be honest roleplay was secondary use of that dungeon too.
So is the image in the article the porn version? Because that's hella tame. Oh is that just something they've commissioned which sort of gets the point across?
Now I want the rule 34 version of the story of John Henry. Like, the next pokemon trailer comes out, and one NSFW artist has to put out porn of the new professor before the AI can generate it.
falsely assumed you want to ban AI generated cartoon csam.
I agree with some of the things you commented on. Some I don't.
One thing I hope we both can agree on is that there should be more research done. We have to understand the nuances before we start calling someone a bad or disgusting person.
A child with massive tits...? How is this different than any other art of underaged characters aged up? Because there's plenty of that too and it's not AI.
Many people who draw porn draw adult version of the character, and particularly this time I think it just funny , like the Vatican made an anime character OF COURSE r34 / hentai people will troll and do porn with it immediately.