Yeah, with a small amount of effort you can really make your YouTube feed work for you. I have a main account full of engineering, computers, and misc entertainment (sketch comedy channels + Atrioc) and a separate one for my work laptop that's just music. Both feeds are pretty fantastic but the recommendations on latter is especially good - I've found a ton of new artists including some with only a few hundred followers (shout out to folk singer Alexander Guy!)
This is the only way. I've been doing it for years, in part because I absolutely hate catered content based on what I've viewed/read. Doing so only increases silos. At least with reddit (RIP)/Lemmy you pick from a potpourri of silos that are don't change depending on what I've read.
No, that's just the only way to do it without putting in any effort.
I've have history enabled for years and I don't get much of the complaints people have about YouTube; my recommendations are fine and I usually find other channels I like that way, anything I don't like I dislike and mark as not interested and that type of content goes away after a handful of markings.
I understand the want of not being silo'd, but at the same time, I know what kind of brain rot YouTube can offer, so I'm happy to solo myself away from that dreck.
Edit: privacy aside, it does work. YT shows rage inducing content because it wants engagement more than anything. My algorithm is so trained now that it can show me stuff I'll actually enjoy and want to engage with and therefore it doesn't bother showing me that crap
Exactly! There should be a browser extension for training YouTube's algorithm and even other ones. I've been very comitted to never feeding that beast after midnight, so I thoroughly enjoy content thatd positive as much as I want.
Hide no longer works. The only thing it does is stop them from showing up in the comments of videos you post.
I kept seeing a commenter in a genre of video I watch, and wanted to get rid of them, but there is no way to block or hide a user except to remove them from the comments on your channel.
I have done it for at least a decade, as soon as I watch something outside my sphere of Tech, History, Electronics, Transportation, Gaming, Amateur Radio, Lego, cool old objects, Acheology, Car, Programming, Long form documentaries, and similar videos I delete it from my YT history.
This has a huge impact, it feels sort of as if you constantly need to fight for your balance on a knife's edge, falling either way will massacre your yt feed.
I'd be happy to post what channels I subscribe to if you want to get started
This is exactly what needs to be done. I too have been curating my YT feed for years. I don't let anyone watch videos on my account and anything that is in conflict with the environment I want to maintain in my feed I simply don't watch or sign into a burner account to watch.
Everyone else's feeds are pure cancer compared to mine.
Everyone else's feeds are pure cancer compared to mine.
The worst part of it is that we have people like my dad who refuse to get a Youtube account, because then you hand over information to Google.
But he won't stop using youtube....
They already have your info! You are just refusing to actually aknowledge it and give yourself control of how a part with huge impact on you get's used!
This may be immoral, but I support kids taking control of their parents YT history, removing alt right content from their watch history and even secretly watching other interesting content to change the feed.
There have been so many horror stories of kids seeing their parents slip away to the alt right by youtube and social media algorithms and push more and more extreme content.
This needs a counter force, I would never stop someone from watching a specific video, but if I needed to I would do what I could to make it not show up in the feed.
To keep YT under control: Firefox is my web browser, with the uBlock Origin extension installed. So, all Shorts/Suggestions, 'News' and 'Related content' are now automatically removed from YT '(easy to achieve with uBlock Origin when using Firefox).
😍🥰 Firefox + uBlockOrigin
And whenever Google/YT suggests me some turd content, I dislike it and ask it to not suggest the channel/content anymore.
In the end, my feed is mostly made of stuff I enjoy watching, with so little noise that it can not be considered an issue.
When a video pops up that you find upsetting or irrelevant, click on the "Not interested" option. You'll have the chance to provide feedback on why you don't like the video. This helps YouTube understand your preferences better and refine future suggestions.
Stop clicking on them. YT shows it to you because it has seen you open them and watch a chunk of the video. The algorithm is dumb and can't tell whether you watch because you like it or hate watch them. It just knows you make engagement and revenue whenever it shows you that, so it does it more.
This isn’t true. I’m constantly getting recommended all kinds of crazy right wing video nonsense and I have never clicked on a single one nor has the only other person in my house. They are picking up on something else or just pushing those videos in general.
Some seemingly-innocuous channels just happen to appeal to fascists and become arbitrary entrances to the right wing YT pipeline.
I’ve noticed Big Think, Sabine Hossenfelder, lots of economics videos, and lots of less-reputable science channels tend to spur a rash of neocon content.
This so much. Years ago I've had it push Moon landing denial videos in my recommendations, even though I've never watched videos on conspiracies or anything of the sort at the time. The closest I got were pop-sci channels such as Vsauce, Numberphile... It's just trying to hook you onto the garbage content and garbage ideas because they have good and loyal viewership.
Go into your watch history and delete all of the rage inducing videos. YouTube generates recommendations directly from your watch history (as well as subscriptions etc).
Then subscribe to channels you really like that don’t enrage you! I highly recommend hobby-focused and science-based channels. There are tons of them out there and they have great content!
Apparently the gardening and eco/tiny-house world is very wholesome, because that's 75% of what I watch (not including music) and I never see recommendations for ragebait.
I've been really diligent about that but I'm realizing that 99% of channels are garbage. Instead I just search for specific things in youtube and don't really click on anything recommended to me, unless I'm looking to fall asleep since youtube knows I like long videos.
Agreed, though I wish youtubes algorithm was able to take into account video release date. Sometimes most of the science youtubers happen to be on a break and I end up watching a higher proportion of gaming content which then further kills the science content in my feed until I manually search it out again.
This is my personal advice as well. I completely turned off my watch history thus making YouTube replace my home page with a search bar. Whenever I want to watch videos i just go to my subscriptions
On a video in a video list page there should be a "..." menu next to the title. It has options for "hiding" the video and "don't recommend channel". I can't comment on how effective those are, but they might give the algorithm some hints about what you want to watch.
In addition, if you have stuff on your watch history that you don't want to see more of, you can go to https://www.youtube.com/feed/history and remove them. Allegedly that stops them being used to decide what videos are recommended.
I use YouTube almost exclusively for ASMR, metal forging, and engineering disaster documentaries. That's all my recommended feed is now. YouTube wants you to watch things on there and keep watching them, the algorithm really doesn't care what you watch to do that. The more you watch non-political stuff and avoid/immediately click away from political stuff, the more it will recommend non-political stuff.
Clear or curate (remove anything political) your watch history, start liberally (hue hue) blocking shit. Install BlockTube. (uBO and SponsorBlock are also a given, just slightly less on topic)
Example:
Thumbnail with Trump and some other guy i dont know, big caption: "OH MY GOD!"
Video title: "Trump Released the MOST EMBARRASSING Video EVER & You HAVE to Watch it! | Bulkwark Takes"
I highly recommend the DeArrow extension. I was on a waiting list after installing, for a few days, and then once I got access it has made the entire YouTube experience much better.
The extension removes clickbait thumbnails (replacing them with a part of the video itself), and clickbait titles are replaced with more accurate descriptions. It's all done by a big community, so the more popular videos are likely to have the edits, however overall it certainly is a better experience for me.
That is clickbait nonsense. I think it’s designed to induce as revenue. I generally don’t watch and avoid all versions of it, electoral and not (“You won’t BELIEVE what this HERO CAT did for Pennsylvania mother of 3”)… I get what you’re saying and it’s dumb but why does it cause you rage?
There is a subscription page! I had no idea for years that in addition to the home page (which is a mix of subscription and algorithm videos) there's a subscription page which only lists videos from channels you're subscribed to, in order of recency.
I use it now quite a bit. And I've been subscribing more. Before I fell down the jjk rabbit hole, I hadn't realized how mamy creators were being suggested that I'd never hit follow on, but would watch often.
I like the idea. Can you elaborate, please? Did you stop, or did you never start? Do you use something else instead? How do you wind down or get a quick laugh?
so, i just stopped going directly to youtube and switched to doomscrolling a meme-excessive feed [for humor]. youtube still pops up in fediverse feeds, and i will watch some things from there, but i'm not going directly to the domain.
ive never really appreciated video on the web. i prefer to stream locally. the few youtube videos i want (usually obscure vhs copies of old shit), i have my kid download into out media center.
I'm not subscribed to anyone on youtube, but my feed is pretty good. Every time i see something i don't like or care i hit the three dots and choose: don't recommend channel, and then they slowly go away.
Stop clicking, interacting, hovering or looking at the thumbnail for too long. Clear your watch history. Search up lots of unrelated content that you enjoy, thumbs it up, subscribe to unrelated channels you like. It will stop doing that. Mine basically only shows video essays an, science, technology and gaming content
Turn off history. It makes the homepage blank, and you will only see your subscriptions. But, there are still recommendations in the side bar you will have to ignore.
Some shit gets injected by region or time of day. I live in a red state and get obnoxious red state hobbys that I am either not interested in or only minorly interested in and the ads are even worse.
Terrible advice, you deny yourself the best tool you have against this, curating your watch history.
clear your cache
Fair, if you absolutely refuse to create an account, then this is your only option.
use a vpn
I am an IT technician, and people need to cool it with yelling for other's to use a VPN constantly, a VPN service doesn't really add anything to your privacy, well, it adds another link in the chain that you need to trust, the only thing your should use a general VPN for is watching region locked content. If you want privacy, use TOR running in a VM.
Terrible advice, you deny yourself the best tool you have against this, curating your watch history.
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Person 1: phone is constantly being harassed by spammers and scammers with spoofed numbers, calling person 1 by name, mentioning their make and model of car, etc.
Person 2: doesn’t own a phone
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Person 2 is better off. I think it’s pretty good advice.
I don't understand why people don't turn off youtube watch history. I nuked my account about a year ago and have since made a new account with a burner email adress. Turned off all tracking and history for YouTube and all affiliate Google accounts and all the recommended videos are completely random shit. They're basically sidebar ads to me now, I dont even notice they're there. I want to watch a video - search it, watch it, thats it never see any other shit about.