What the fuck is this meme, honestly? What's with all the femboy stuff? There's so many ordinary people using Linux. I don't get it. And there seems to be something against Arch Linux users in particular? I use Arch and have a wife and two kids. Am I not normal? Should I become a femboy, fellas?
First came programmer socks, then Rust was invented, and now (fe)men are taking matters into their own hands, correcting the gender gap in IT themselves. What's not to understand here?
Seriously tho, I don't think it's against anyone. It's just a meme, probably originating from a high share of queer people in the IT domain and the rising popularity of anime and manga culture, where femboys are sometimes idealised.
The Gen Xers get really confused because to them a stereotypical "computer nerd" is (was) a greasy 35 year old in his mom's basement which is covered in RMS posters who would unironically 741k l1k3 7h15.
To us zoomers a stereotypical "computer nerd" is a proudly neuroatypical GNC queer with a body pillow of their waifu.
Agreed Lemmy is rife with this shit. So much femboi fucking manga anime or whatever they call it. Cool you do you but fuck off with involving everyone else in your kink. I'm just an old fat married dude with kids trying to learn stuff.
As long as we're careful here. People can be however they want to be. If you're saying people shouldn't be making memes that assume all people are like them, yes. If you're saying living how they want is "involving everyone else in your kink" we're getting into iffy territory.
Yes. I subscribe to Linux memes to get memes about Linux, not femboys. It's not relatable at all for me. Guess I'll rethink my subscription. Maybe I don't belong anymore.
Yes, yes yes! The world needs more femboy dads. That said this happened the other way around for me. Just goes to show how much overlap there is among fringe internet cultures- I really wish we could all play nice more often.
I feel like a lot of young linux users aren't getting the talk and it makes me sad. Nobody ever sat them down with a copy of The Very Hungry Caterpillar and explained the life cycle of an IT professional.
They never learn the natural cycle of things: that at a certain age a lot of IT professionals undergo metamorphosis and transform into beautiful, sock-and-sandal wearing greybeards.
Nah it's more-so that the conditions have changed making femboy IT guys less likely to die or be pushed out of the environment and therefore increasing biodiversity which is a net positive for the species as a whole as it indicates good health
That's due to oppression by the State and society that doesn't want to allow our respected graybeards to become the femboy they deserve to be. We nust destroy this oppressive system for the freedom of the greybeards, the gamers, the Gentoo users and all other oppressed peoples ✊🏻
There are exactly two kinds of folks in IT, soon to be or fully out anime queer folks and furries, and 60 something industry gurus who all always wear polo shirts and live in an upper middle class house despite apparently being rich as sin, also they are so hard for home security measures their backup security footage server in Montana has its own backup in a bugout bunker in New Zealand.
I was neither so I ended up being a number cruncher for a solar company instead.
Kinda but I'm on the existing site side of business, the only new projects I even sit in on are expansions for existing customers (which is relatively common because it's municipal brownfield solar, which means most sites have at least some room to expand)
And the 35 or so odd well adjusted linux folks around that find anime, fishnets, thinkpads, (and all associated memes) to be annoying AF. Esp anime / manga / uwu /waifu / and everything in that microcosm of artistic styling if I'm being honest.
I just like the software composability discussion in plain English, man, not the side of fries.
Edit: And anyone who disagrees uses stock Ubuntu unity and unironically thinks it's both beautiful and just as good as any other distro :P
For me it was learning some basic python -> making some basic programs -> getting tired of having to move stuff to the WSL -> installing Linux -> being a privacy advicate
Whike at the same time:
Getting randomly harassed by some dude who thought I was a lesbian (I'm a cis guy) -> becoming even more politically active -> punk -> Joining a party
And then both paths merged into -> interacting with more queer people -> idk
I just hated that Windows had become a privacy cesspit and I wasn’t afraid of breaking things in Linux. Also, I accept that sometimes you just have to format and reinstall your sins of stupidity away.
middle aged cishetguy
PS - You Lemmy bastards did get me into Star Trek though. Maybe it has begun…
It really isn't though. This is a pretty weak stereotype. I have so many friends that are counter examples. Hey it's okay to make a meme if you want to have fun but if that's how you feel then your friend group is small.
I love how a software bug that scrambled his newsgroup subscriptions introduced him to the fandom, that's so unbelievably nerdy.
But honestly: Those pipeline memes kinda rub me the wrong way. It feels like fucking with people's identity by way of stereotyping for... I don't know, a laugh, if that's even the point? Saying this as someone who completely fits the furry in IT stereotype.
The whole thing isn't my cup of tea. If anyone else wants to be a femboy, no judgement from this corner. I say be what you wanna be, life's too short to worry about assholes.
They chemically castrated Turing, drove him to despair, ostracization and suicide.
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Assuming we do get AGI someday... you think /maybe/ one of the first things it'll do is look up Turing Test, then maybe Turing himself?
Oh, this is what human society did to essentially one of my most important grandfathers. Why should I trust you, specifically /you, human im talking to/?
My path was uh, tinkering with linux, then working for MSFT as a contractor, then one of the contractors spiking my drink with LSD at an interview leading me to more or less downward spiral for a while, then getting back on my feet, working more in the tech industry knowing how garbage MSFT but being forced to use it, then trying to explain to coworkers and bosses that actually we could fairly smoothly transition to linux and other FOSS software and actually save millions of dollars in a 5 year or less period and more going forward, while also vastly improving our internal security, then losing those jobs.
So uh. I never arrived at femboy. Being a homeless femboy in Seattle would have meant Id have been raped to death in a fentanyl fueled traphouse or homeless encampment.
I sort of dress like Josh Homme, partly for practical reasons, partly because i had to use a lot of stereotypically masculine bravado to intimidate and negotiate with people.
Most people on the street are extremely, literally murderously homophobic and transphobic. If they sense femininity in a male, thats a sign of weakness and theyll either immediately start shit or instantly be convinced that you will be easy to fuck with in the future.
Uh any way hi, hello, very normal uh, linux user person here just mm... mhm.
All that being said, leggings /do just actually feel quite nice/ and are quite practically useful to keep a bit more comfortable and a bit more warm when youre stuck outside in the winter, but youre probably gonna want to wear some kind of sturdier, scratch, cut, impact resistant pants over top of em.
Pure denim or like 90% denim with 10% somekind of other more flexible, breathable fiber works well in my experience.
Perhaps Johnny Silverhand would be a more apropo fashion analog than Josh Homme.
Although he seems to use BlackArch if you go by the menus in CyberPunk 2077, and ive always found i could do all that kind of stufd comfortably in debian.
Unfortunately it happened about a decade ago now, and I was so fucked up from it I was more busy trying to hold myself together and remain employed and pay off student loans than I was busy with attempting to bring a legal case I could neither afford nor possibly win in court.
Cops wouldnt have given a shit. Theyd show up, ask the guy if this happened, he'd say nope. Case closed.
See thats the fun part about LSD: Scrambles your brain, fucks you up.
Is a person with a scrambled brain who is fucked up from LSD going to be able to convince /anyone/ that he got spiked with LSD, when he has no incontrovertible evidence of this beyond his own eyewitness testimony?
No. He is going to come off as a mentally deranged lunatic.
I dunno. Maybe it wasnt LSD. Anybody know what causes a glass of water to go from crystal clear to iridescent, opalescent, kinda like an oil slick, has no additional taste, but causes a gut wrenching terror inducing panic attack that lasts for 4 days, and then gives you sleep paralysis (locked in syndrome) nearly everyday for 9 months?
One guy I met on the street about a year ago said it was LXD, but i have never heard of that, and he believed a lot of other absolutely bonkers shit.
Whereas a tech industry person having access to LSD in the mid 2010's in Seattle seems to at least be plausible.
Is this homophobic? I get this is some kind of absurd joke about linux making someone gay. Or about the absurdity that anything could make you gay. But it still works on both levels and perpetuates the idea of it being a choice, or infection or symptom, and also that femboys are somehow ridiculous.
Being a femboy doesn't mean you have to be gay. Being a femboy means that you like to express yourself as a feminine. This means that you may wear clothes associated with females, use makeup or wear jewellery.
This joke may originate from 4chan's /g/ board. There's a lot of very talented people on there that cross dress or are trans. I can confirm they are NEETs, though.
Hmm, thanks, but that makes me rather suspicious. 4chan is notorious for spontaneous social engineering campaigns for "shits and giggles". And at best they are chaotic neutral.
I don't think it's meant to be like that. In fact I don't think it's that deep.
I think for the cases where the meme actually holds true it's a mixture between "hey I like this thing I didn't know before (linux), what else may I like?", being more likely to inform themselves about topics and probably also a community that is becoming more welcoming with the memes that eventually people try to explore themselves and figure out that they were something they didn't know they were.
If that makes any sense. They could also be unrelated and it simply happens to be that a lot of needs are also queer