I don’t mean to be rude OP, but your entire contribution to lemmy has been 5 comments and this single post about Reddit. In order to gain traction as a viable alternative to Reddit we need OC and active participation in the comment section. Be the change you want to see and lead by example - start posting interesting non-Reddit related stuff yourself. The more people that do, the better lemmy will be.
I think we need to start poaching video content from reddit and posting it here. Stuff like HoldMyBeer, StartledCats, etc. There's so much content for the taking, I don't think we should get stuck on OC. In this stage we just need content. I'm seriously considering starting a cat sub or holdmybeer sub, and stealing all the content from reddit until people starting posting their own contributions.
I agree. I should have said “make new posts” rather than OC. When I first joined I used my last days of Apollo access to copy over a few of my favourite BORU posts as the community was otherwise empty. I also started c/[email protected] and reposted some of the old classics to get the community started. I don’t think lemmy should just be Reddit on another site, but it’s a good place to start while we build the site up.
I'm with you, honestly how do you think that content got to reddit in the first place? Sure there's some original content there but 99% of the site is just reposts people got from other sites - and porn. Bring some porn back with you if you have space
It reminds me of the occasional times where a corporate email would be sent out improperly to "all" in our company. A few people would reply all: "take me off this list". Then someone would reply all to those guys: "don't reply all". Then other people would reply all:"you are spamming the whole company!", etc.
It would take an hour or so to die off, but It was kind of amusing to see people react to the chaos. I assume the bitching about Reddit will die off naturally.
The OP is complaining about all the Reddit bitching on his front page. There is some control over the looks of one's front page in profile settings. If set to "All", then yeah there's going to be a lot of stuff outside of interest on the front page. My front page is set to "Subscribed" so I have to intentionally look for that stuff if I want to see it.
The way to use Lemmy is to subscribe to communities with content of interest and use the the subscribed view. Maybe this is more a case of someone new to Lemmy not understanding the best way to use Lemmy.
Making a post that blows up like this one was a thing on reedit. You got a score and that encouraged gaming/trolling. It'll take a bit to realize that karma isn't a thing.
I tried to give OP the benefit of the doubt by providing practical ways he could make a positive impact if he was being genuine, but I think I was being naïve. He’d been on lemmy for the best part of a week before he posted this. No way in hell he hadn’t come across the many posts complaining about the same thing. Plus his reply to me was very Reddit-like. Passive aggressive at best, antagonistic at worst. I’d become used to people being a little nicer and more genuine in the few weeks I’ve been here!
There something I don’t really understand about karma vs plain upvotes on lemmy. I know you needed a certain amount of karma to post in some subs, but it was never very much from what I recall. After you’d reached 2k at most, it didn’t have any value beyond social validation. Karma farmers didn’t do it for any real benefit, it just made them feel good. Won’t lemmy upvotes just be the same? You still get an upvote tally on your profile, you still get the dopamine boost from a thousand of people agreeing with you. Why do we assume (and hope) that karma/point farming won’t continue on this platform?
No need to get arsey, I wasn’t being rude to you. I simply pointed out, politely, that we can each make lemmy better by posting content we find interesting. Posting to complain about people posting to complain about Reddit, not only doesn’t help matters, it actively makes it worse. And clearly I’m not alone in this sentiment. I look forward to seeing your contributions now you have a feel for the place and have got your little rant off your chest 💚
Hard disagree. The Reddit situation is a huge news story even for people who aren’t on Reddit.
Also you wouldn’t bring up an ex on a first date because you’re trying to impress the new person. However you would definitely talk about her to friends and family if it was an upsetting situation for you. Reddit was a big part of my life and it fucking sucks what happened To it
I think there is a thin line there, which has been crossed.
Talking about Reddit drama is fine. But when 90% of the posts here are all about Reddit (or Meta/Twitter vs Mastodon) it seems to me that people are just salty.
I came here because I gave up on Reddit, and I am looking for a reddit substitute. What I wish is to find here the content I would normally find there, so that I am not forced to move back to that wonderful website, sadly managed by shitlords (as the other 100% of profit driven websites. A lesson hard learned).
But if my feed is spammed by 90% stuff about Reddit and nothing else, that is not the way to growth or make people stick around.
Totally. But the reddit discussions will naturally die down and/or be contained in the "reddit sucks" specific subreddits (I think they are called "Communities" on most instances? Sorry - still learning). But either way it's a hot topic right now and, as you said, people are angry, hurt, and want a place to vent. I like that we have that space and can discuss together.
You're right in that the analogy is way off. Here's the only way it would make it right, is if your new date also wanted to vent about your ex. That's probably not the case. But being a Reddit refugee is something in common for many people on Lemmy (especially right now) and so it makes perfect sense for people to talk about it.
Also, I don't give much thought to the posts I scroll past...
Yeah, it's so far from bringing up an ex on a new date. I assume most people here are 'an ex' of reddit. It's more like a group of friends in a new bar talking shit about a bar they used to go to. Which is completely unproblematic and natural. The new bar doesn't give a shit, and the friend group gets to vent.
Here is a hot take: think of it like leaving a house you have been renting for 10 years. Our relationship wasn't with the landlord as much as it was the neighbors and community.
Now, our landlord turned to a money-grubbing asshat spaz spez. You better believe we are telling everyone in our community, old and new, not to rent from him. Additionally, we are going to be venting the hurt of being evicted. We have all been forced to find a new neighborhood and learn everything new that comes with it. Our habits have been reset and it sucks.
It's been like a week since the most recent migration happened, we can't just expect this to blow over immediately when like 90% here came from reddit just 7 days ago
Bad analogy, it would be like meeting up with all your ex-girlfriend's other former partners and all bitching about that shared ex because you have that thing in common.
Now that you mention it, I really wonder what would happen if all my exes got together to talk shit about me. What would that groupthink decide about me? Oh god nevermind, banish the thought..
The fediverse has gradually shifted from being 75% posts complaining about reddit and 25% other to being 25% posts complaining about reddit, 25% posts complaining about how people come here to complain about reddit, and 50% other. We be makin progress!
Instead of reddit, why not talk about something more positive on your date, like how many tickets you are going to buy for my new movie, "Barbie", only in theaters July 21st?
Hello Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie (sometimes I get mistaken for you). Is it true you were cast in Barbie because you have plastic feet?
None. Not going to watch it because it shows a map with China's nine dash line. China has been harassing our fishermen and coast guards here in the Philippines, in our own waters. The government is also planning to ban the movie.
I heard about this, but I really can’t find anything resembling that on the disputed frame. Like, it has to be there because a government probably checked it better than me, but where exactly?
Not really. The reddit drama is a major disturbance in the internet. It's a huge topic and thus naturally generates lots of discussion. Of course everyone's talking about it.
And note that when Twitter had it's major fuckup recently, conversation on Lemmy moved over to Twitter for a while. Then it was Threads and their privacy nightmare and wanting to federate. Now Reddit is back to fucking up, so we're talking about them again. It's not our fault that these giant social media companies keep very publicly fucking up.
I would say it's more like when a bunch of friends collectively break up with toxic partners and have a big meeting to talk about it. It'll die down after a while. People on Reddit don't really talk about Digg anymore.
Personally I enjoy hearing about the reddit drama. I don't spend nearly as much time there as I did before they broke my beloved sync so I enjoy getting to read about the ongoing shenanigans over there.
Exactly. I think it's perfectly understandable. But it's also why I subbed to a couple of reddit downfall groups?, subs?, Idk what they are actually called here 😂.
No. Joining Lemmy and bitching about Reddit is more like you and one or two other roommates moving out of a large, historically awesome collective steadily being ruined by an increasingly dictatorial house-owner (who used to live there too) and bitching about it in your brand new but decidedly smaller one, hopefully looking towards the future between tirades and building to regain some of that lost awesomeness
Agreed, and not only that but holy fuck we just broke up a week ago. I was in a relationship with that bitch for 12 years, I don't need my homies over here telling me it's time to forget about it lol
I love reading about reddit AND twitter on the Fediverse.
It's better than reality TV could ever hope to be.
Entitled assholes who run the place, decide to start their platforms on fire and then try and blame the users.
Really?
And then they get all temper tantrum on the users and punish people like the tyrants they are.
Failing, worse than anyone ever in the history of business, (yes, YOU elon), is just a joy to behold.
Who is an amazing business man? Not you spez, elon, trump.
Ego will be your ultimate death.
Welcome to social media gentlemen, thank you for lighting yourselves on fire. Please clean up when you are done.
For real. It's like getting a new job and say "wow I love how great this is, my old job sucked." Then kinda laughing at how bad it was then and how good it is now.
Asking people to immediately forget about a platform they (at least in my case) have spent over a decade on in a matter of days is naive. People are going to commiserate about it, we're human.
No, that's a bad analogy. A closer one with your context is having a bad breakup and then getting into another relationship and moving in with the person, where your share stuff about your prior life along with other stuff.
But a better analogy is people living in an apartment building who get together for social events in the common area for years until the management starts doing shitty stuff, increasing rent, etc. A hunk of people decide they aren't taking it anymore, so they all move into the newly built apartment down the road that doesn't have many people in it yet. The new place also has community events, and now it's mostly people from the old place that are talking about what happened in the old place.
Bad breakup, eviction, or whatever, you can't expect a group of people who had a bad experience together to just stop talking about it in a few weeks. The vast majority of Lemmy users came from Reddit. It will die down when people really have gotten over it.
I would liken it more to starting at a new job in the same industry. You have lots to praise, critique and compare about your new job to your old job, and the only people who can appreciate what you have to say are your new peers.
It's just the nature of the situation. This will likely be a trend for a while.
Wouldn't that mean making threads about people complaining about Reddit comparable to spending the whole night complaining about how your last date only complained about their ex? Not really a great look either, lol.
Well, not quite - because we all have the same ex, so we can commiserate with each other and laugh at the fact that they just walked into a tree.
But yes - I was subscribed to Redditmigration when I first arrived, but unsubbed after about a week, it did indeed get old. Still - I'm not going to try and proscribe what people want to talk about. There will be people who are still genuinely mourning the loss of a communities they loved.
Reddit used to always go on about how I stacked the dishwasher. Then there were the API changes. I'm like, why do you need to control everything, reddit? Just chill the fuck out.
This is very true, but due to the recent mass exodus is like a large group of people meeting and all talking shit about the GF/BF they all shared (a.k.a. the slut of the town)
If you're joining the Fediverse to take Reddit down and migrate people over... then it makes sense to talk about it. Have to strategize to identify your enemy's weaknesses it order to take 'em down. And while you're doing it, negative things about Reddit will come out. Even if it does end up being complaining, it's part of the process and it'll make people feel better while also doubling as important brainstorming.
Most people, in one way or another, process by talking. It's fine.
Besides, there's the train wreck aspect of it. Bad taste as it may be, but you can't stop watching and pointing out more horrible details to the people around you.
"We had everything. RiF, Apollo... so many others. She threw them away like trash. She even suddenly decided to hate on blind people. Who the fuck does that? I mean, really? Who does that?"
Yeah, its a bit much. But hey, it's something that brings a lot of the users here together. Common ground to get conversation going and gets the new Reddit refugees interacting with content on here. After a while it'll probably die down but it's very much at the forefront of new users' minds.
Just ignoring it fully when it's so fresh isn't healthy either. In that case, you're essentially just the "this is fine" dog while the house burns.
Difference being, maybe you're outside the house now and safer, but you're still just outside trying to blankly share memes with neighbors like a psychopath while the house burns, unacknowledged, behind you.
Calm down, fellow kids... We can talk about it for awhile and it will naturally fade with time, as it already is on many instances.
Posting here is a bit like having sex with your new partner while Margot Robbie shouts at you, but you're still thinking about your ex and loads of people are watching and up and down voting you and also you have concerns about how your new partner handles GDPR compliance
Margot Robbie! Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie! (Sometimes I get mistaken for you.) Is it true you once told Ryan Gosling that Ferrero Rocher were so light that they would actually hover over a bath plug hole, so he put one over the plug on his bath but then it fell in and jammed the plumbing for three weeks?
People need to vent. I'm also tired of it, like you, because I know I'm never going back. But it needs to be done so that people can clear their anger at just how shitty the whole situation was.
I just blocked the reddit community here so there's a lot less of it in my feed now. Maybe I'll unblock it later. My point being, take charge of your feed and make it what you want!
If I go to Reddit in order to tell everyone how great Lemmy is, that’s like going back to my X and talking about how great my new SO is. Sounds like a pretty psycho move IMO when I think about it.
I appreciate the sentiment, but it's probably going to be a thing for awhile :) Asking the internet not to hold a grudge is like asking a fat man to skip the buffet
Walking up to a group of people commiserating about the ex they all dated and telling them you're tired of hearing about it instead of, y'know, doing literally anything else.
Counter shower thought, I'm not even close to dating Lemmy. I spent 2 years getting to know Reddit, it will take me as long, if not longer due to Lemmy not being as mature as resdit was.
Right now, lemmy is the stranger at the train station asking why I am crying. It might turn into something, or I may just lean into Facebook / Instagram / YouTube / discord more.
People are still in the migration process. Talk about Reddit will NOT go away, because it's the elephant in the room and it hasn't gone away.
If you were around for the DIGG migration to Reddit, it's going to be similar. It will take a LONG TIME before you stop seeing Reddit related content here. It's just going to be a little less over time.
I doubt it will ever go away to the level of DIGG, unless Reddit completely implodes, which it won't. Reddit in its current state is still usable for the silent majority of users via desktop or official app, like it or not. DIGG rn is completely useless.
What we can do is support each other, create and share meaningful content here. Migrate your interests, and if it doesn't exist, create it or someone else can. Lemmy growth and interactions have exploded, even over the past week. Give it time, and enjoy the fact that we don't have to worry about Reddit screwing itself at the cost of their users.
I never had a reddit account but decided to join up here for "reasons why reddit is bad". I'm here now so hoping not to see too many of these kinds of posts, including this one :)
The Reddit bullshit is $current_topic. Sure, it's probably annoying if you've been here already and suddenly there's this influx of Reddit complaints, but you have to let it die out naturally. People are here because they're angry; let them be angry. Just provide good content and people will naturally stay for that alone.
Yup. I can’t wait till one of these Lemmy apps adds a keyword filter. Look at how defensive these replies are lol I haven’t this much “Well actually” since …well you know. I think you struck a nerve, OP!
I don't mind reading about reddit on the reddit community, but the fact people can't shut up in non related communities annoys me to no end, the circlejerking is insane.
It's like, people go to asklemmy and ask "don't you feel this is so MUCH better than reddit, people are way nicer and have higher IQ", like dude come on.
Also another one is people bashing reddit for no reason, like a post that said that reddit doesn't respect free speech and showed a threat lf deleted comments with no context, as if that was a bad act in itself some people talk about moderation as if it was a bad thing done over in the bad reddit
if you want to stop reading about it use the block button liberally. I would recommend blocking mags like RedditMigration. That will relieve you of about 95% of the discussion...
Just ignore the posts then? I don't see what the big deal is. If anything it makes this community stronger having a collective discontent for our previous beloved.
I dont know if i should follow your advice and keep scrolling or come here and complain about reddit and idk its fun to complain about reddit
okay so if you make the mistake of going on reddit rn (i was trobleshooting a specific issue get off my back) its like a school at night all the lights are off except for some and they're blinding bright if you make the even WORSE mistake of going on r/all its like a noticable shift has happened and also where it used to be significant bots, now its VERY many botposts. its fun if you like chatting with bots!
So it’s okay for you to bitch and moan about stuff you don’t like, but others aren’t allowed to be upset about Reddit?
I think you may have been letting your frustrations guide your words. End of the day, we all (including you) are allowed to express your frustrations on anything, but you being frustrated with their frustration is only going to spiral out of control. Try something else like going to those threads explicitly and derailing the conversation towards something more positive and constructive.
Eh, it’s more like going out with the guys then complaining about your ex. And incidentally, you’ve all had a ride one that particular crazy coaster so you can sympathize.
People on Mastodon are complaining about people talking about twitter, and posting their complaints to the hashtag #twitter which is very odd, as they could filter it.
I expect there will be filters on Lemmy eventually.
More like fleeing a totalitarian regime and talking with your fellow compatriots about how much oppression you've endured. (A bit exaggerated, but you get the point.)
I agree, I just joined here from reddit, and would like see communities florish reminiscent to reddit but like you said, we need to move on from an old Ex and see how it goes
My completely unknowledgeable answer based on the week or so I've been here.
Lemmy works as a series of self hosted "instances", basically servers people run kinda like a games server or bitcoin miner.
When you join Lemmy, you picked an instance, that is the server you connect to and get all your data from, the "local" in your list.
This server then talks to and share posts with all the other servers it knows about and is connected to. That way when you query your local instance, it knows all about the other content on the other servers.
The over all cluster of various servers is the "Fediverse", various stand alone instances which share data to create the larger community.
So when the talk about defederating a site, like Threads, they mean cutting that server off from the rest of the community.
yeah, that's kinda like email.
there are multiple email providers (gmail, etc), and you can send emails to anyone even if they don't use the same provider
Absolutely! Having this great thing in front of you, more lovable and genuine than what you had before, but you do keep on blabbering about the ex who went out for cheap cocktails and a 5-sec-back-alley-hump without lubricants with Steve.
Or it could be like bitching about an ex to your therapist. Sometimes you need to get stuff off your chest. The good news is you don't need to read it.
"To bitch about it?" Yes, I'm not a fan of the echo chamber of people's feelings toward Reddit; but it's still a situation that's going on, so I'd like updates and conversation surround that.
Thank you. Forget Reddit. I mean, like it's so hard to move on. She was so great for so long. We have so many... memories. Not all good, but it's so hard to be alone. This new girl is nice, but she's not the same.
Sure, Reddit got pissed while I was out with my friends and trashed my apartment. It was clear by then that our relationship was so messed up, but I wanted to salvage things and rushed home, only to be cornered by Reddit. Reddit was threatening me with a knife and had broken almost everything in the apartment. My friends came to help me and while one tried to subdue Reddit, she bit him and I escaped.
I moved out and deleted my account.
Sure, weeks later, I got drunk and browsed Reddit a few times after all that. When I wasn't drinking, she tracked/stalked me and sent unsolicited nudes. Nice.
I found a much better girl to hang out with. Sure she federates with everyone, but she federates with me much more. Very cool.
I had literally the exact same thought the other day. Pretty much every single thread on my front page was bitching about reddit in some way shape or form. Ugh
Yes please, I don't care for that place and I'm not interested in what's going on either. Unless they are going bankrupt and closing down I'm avoiding those threads.
You're right. But I'm forgiving of it. Many if not most of us came here because we were fed up with the BS over there. I'm fine with a grace period to let people vent.
Make a "Fuck_u/spez" community and drive people there to bitch about reddit if you wanna try and centralize it somewhere. I would, but I'm lazy and dont wanna moderate shit.
The posts about "What don't you want to see here from reddit?", "What communities did you like there that you want to see here?" Etc, are very helpful I think.
Talking about the over all situation there is a huge news story, and one the majority of us were personally involved on effected by.
Sure I understand wanting other content beyond "Fuck reddit, let me show you where u/spez touched me". There is a whole lot here that isn't that.
Maybe it a bias from learning how the site works, but just in the week or so I've been here I feel there is a lot more content and user engagement.
Fucking hell I couldn’t agree more with this post. So many people on here sound like they want to have won the breakup. Lemmy shouldn’t just be “the place that’s better than reddit”, that’s not much of an identity. I’m not interested in this place just being the Canada to Reddit’s USA.
I mean, Redditors don’t really have a “real” exes. Their relationship with Reddit, though parasocial, is probably the most real and intimate relationship they’ve ever had. Let them have it.
Wait, was I redditor? You ask. Well I.. *mumbles incoherently and trails off
I agree it's a bit much at this point and I'd rather see actual content but your post here is also just talking about reddit instead of contributing content..