What the fuck did you just fucking say about America, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit about America over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" meme was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
Least aggressive response.
It's a copypasta meant to make fun of overly aggressive keyboard warriors but yeah, it's very un-chill indeed 😁
Holy shit, its been a while since I read this.
I love the gorilla warfare bit 🦍
Ever heard of guerilla gardening? I give you..a gorilla gardening!
Stars and Stripes out for Harambe.
Non-americans really love this weird bogus narrative.
That's probably because the loudest and most overly defensive ones are the Americans you're most likely to encounter and remember in online arguments and on American news, so that colors the perception. Especially when you don't live amongst the more reasonable majority of Americans 🤷
That is not my experience at all. Most Americans get extremely defensive when someone criticizes the US, even people who know better. Many are ok with specific criticism (like, healthcare sucking), but it doesn't take much for them to revert to 'murican mode.
I have been living in the US for over a decade and been to 2/3rds of the states.
well if an american does respond to this it proves them right if they dont respond it doesnt prove them wrong its a bad argument for an otherwise pretty dumb claim
unless americans do care i hate america and am american so idrk
I'm starting to get this feeling too. Most of the Americans I know, myself included, rip America a new one at any given opportunity.
There’s a certain degree of truth to it. Americans seem fine with being the butt of a joke as long as the person joking is American and not far left/right. If you offer any doubt about the political or geographic origin of your joke, it’ll often be taken poorly. I enjoy being flamed and so was eager to figure out the political joke context puzzle. +2/-16 and 6 replies, babeeee
Nobody talks more shit about America than Americans.
American: makes any sort of joke about any country, even if it's the smallest most unoffending thing
Person from that country : ur children get shot in schools
We might overuse that comeback, but at least we don't have school shootings.
Okay, but you do realize that comeback makes you look bad right, not us? No matter your reasons or intentions, you are mocking children being murdered. Like in the example below:
American: lol British people eat spotted dicks.
A brit: lol American children get shot at school.
Wow. What a zinger, you really got me with that one, a fool I was to not recognize the comedy of children dying horrifically.
(To be clear, I didn't come up with that example randomly. I've seen the mocking of spotted dick be met with "lol child murder" more than once)
Sure, maybe it's crass for me to mock you for something so traumatic, but on the plus side I have never personally murdered a child so I think I'm doing just fine.
At least over here we do have some school shootings even with stricter European gun control laws. It‘s just not as prevalent as in the US.
I guess sometimes overly criticising the US can be seen as some kind of envy. The freedom we admire but the shortcomings we don’t want to have or admit. It‘s just that this extreme bipartisanship and reluctance to talk civilly with each other is disheartening to see.
If you're allowed to mock children deaths from a mental Healthcare crisis can we mock you for your roving gangs of rape squads?
German link: https://jungefreiheit.de/politik/deutschland/2023/vergewaltigung-im-goerli/
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One of them is a stereotype based on ignorance and racism.
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The other one is children getting shot at schools.
Funny how both of these things come from the US.
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Huh? Americans are like the most willing to admit their country is shit of like anywhere of the Lemmy audience.... America fucking sucks, sign American. I had some dude from Pakistan super mad at me for saying women are second class citizens there the other day. Apparently they treat women super well, according to that angry guy anyway. I'm still pretty sure they don't.
As always, these things can't be generalised. Every country has people that talk about their own problems, and every country has "patriots" that will deny anything is happening. There are just a lot of Americans on the internet, so people notice those who relentlessly praise America more.
After all, few countries literally ingrain "[country] exceptionalism" into their population in their school system. Many Americans, while thinking they are pointing out problems, still say "but it's still better than almost any other country at X".
Romania doesn't ingrain Romanian exceptionalism, but it does keep a lot of the REALLY horrible things Romanians have done out of the history classes.
Starting soon, the Romanian holocaust and communist period are going to be taught in high school history classes. AUR (basically our Republican party) is completely flipping their lid right now. They're a small party, but very loud and aggressively ignorant.
Instead of "thinking something is true about an other country" why don't you research the topic? Laws are easy to find.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_related_laws_in_Pakistan
While yes, there were some Sharia laws back in the 1980's, many recent laws in the last 20 years have been giving more rights to women.
And that is the problem with many of you Americans, you read something online once about an other country or hear it on one of your news stations, and you instantly believe it without ever checking if it is factual or not.
The same type of people exist in other countries of course, but the blatant ignorance of Americans about other countries is staggering.
XD ah yes, legally it's the same, so that's how it shakes out on the ground for sure!
Americans when literally anything
THIS IS BULLSHIT!!! YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT!!!
WHAT? CAN’T HEAR YOU!!!
I'm American and I can confirm this is true
How do you know somebody's American without meeting them first?
You hear them.
Unless we're talking protesting or voting. Then they're asleep.
Nah. Democrats protest, Republicans vote. Funny how one of those groups wields a grossly exaggerated amount of political power.
Uh, what? I live here and I shit on it all the time.
Yeah. as an American I shit on America more than anyone. I got no idea what Op is talking abot.
It's very much more of a
American criticises America: crickets
Non-American criticises America: hooooo boy here comes the nationalism
American folks want to poke fun at other countries? I say no problem, break a leg! Actually please don't because it'd probably bankrupt you.
A culturally relevant joke at our expense that still has class? See guys, it IS possible. You, in fact, CAN make fun of America without going "lol your children get shot lol".
Damn that smarts.
I'd go to get that burn checked but my annual deductible is more than a used car cost before the profiteering here drove up the car prices so high.
Don’t worry, health insurance is on the rise too!
When do we do this? Seriously... Show me. I'll help you shit all over that miserable person.
I laughed... then cried. You're not wrong.
I haven't encountered Americans getting mad over that but what I have encountered is them thinking everything involves the US, especially lately. For example people claiming the Ukraine - Russia war is a proxy war between the US and Russia instead or that NATO = US. Like chill, your country is not relevant to everything in the world.
The Ukraine conflict isn't a RU - US proxy war in the traditional sense but it's worth noting that the overwhelming majority of foreign aid to Ukraine has come from the US, more than double the amount of aid given by the EU as a whole. It's not hard to assume that Ukraine would be in a much worse place without America's support.
Yea, of course it has, the Budapest Memorandum says they have to help, it's a defensive pact they got in return for giving up nukes. But people are pretending the US is like the instigator and driver of this conflict even though they are literally just one of the countries providing aid to Ukraine.
You aren't totally wrong, but
And if you look at it by gdp the US isn't even top 10 and the US, UK and northern Ireland are the only countries with a pact obligating them to help Ukraine.
Wait I thought we hated ourselves?
Yeah I thought it was mostly other Americans saying these things
Wait, I thought the whole world is America
This is the case for every country. You just see it with the US a lot more since it of course has the biggest footprint on the English-language side of the internet.
Not even close. Also doesn't help that 'muricans have a very distorted view on how their country is perceived
According to one source, the only media that for a long time made it into the states is media that the US government approves of. I could go into detail about it, but it shows up quite prominently in this video.
I think other countries are a lot more open to self deprecation as part of their humour / culture. Not saying there aren't some examples of this in America, it just doesn't seem to be as prevalent as in British comedy for example.
National boundaries just divide workers to obscure the fact that they have more in common with each other than with the ruling classes.
No disagreement from me comrade.
The real struggle from the start
As a european, this applies to both sides lol
as a southamerican I remind you that there are more than two sides.
Ah yeah of course
It usually doesn't bother me unless it's something like this
American- criticizes something foreign
Every single reply to that comment- "School shootings!! Hahaha!! Dead kids!!! Hehehehe!!"
We have other things you can criticize! Like the fact people will give you unsweetened tea with ice then say you can have some sugar packets!
Scourge of the North! Sugar Tea Soup!
Or when they extropolate from America the country being shit, to every individual American being shit for having the audacity to have been born here.
Most of us would also rather it wasn't like this, but our families, friends, and livelihoods are here, so generally speaking it's not practical to just up and leave. And our political system is to broken for us to really fix via voting
Trash on the country all you want, I'll join in with you - but don't blame the folks who are just trying to live the best we can in this fucked up country
This recently
- French people rude. Haha yeah.
- Greek people cheap. Okay you got us.
- Americans so fucking stupid. Hah wait. That's it? That's the joke?
This I don't understand. Where is this coming from and who honestly would be okay with being called a big dumb dildo and laugh along like it's such a well known fact about their country? We're a lot of things, act like we own the world and everyone owes us money and gratitude, eat like shit while letting everyone know how to be healthy, use little creamer cups instead of cream. We're not idiots.
As an American you can make fun of America all you want. It sucks here.
The only Europeans I’ve had a problem with are the Danes. They have absolutely no sense of humor.
Or was it the Swedes? I don’t know. I mean they’re right there together. They’re basically the same people right?
Hehehehehehe
I'll just say that I've had different experiences for the most part.
Same. In most of the interactions I have had with Americans here (including myself), they have been generally pretty aware of the faults of the United States and willing to admit to them.
As others have said, we often make fun of ourselves. On these platforms, the liberal side of America is very vocal about the conservative side of America. Healthcare, guns, cost of living, etc. are something we're constantly being made fun of (often from ourselves).
If you've experienced pushback, it's likely because it gets stale as a subject. We know our country has problem; most of us feel powerless to change it.
Maybe that's what happens when you have this much diversity in a country. We're not like the French who can all unify and protest when needed.
edit: Rereading this, it makes it sound like I think diversity is a bad thing. Didn't mean to imply that, its just that we're so different its harder to unify.
Americans do a lot of stupid things, but they are most likely to be self critical in this space. I think this meme should talk about Western Europe instead, because they have many problems, but they are so often never willing to accept criticism. They're quick to call the US racist, but in my experience, Europe has so much racism it's crazy it's viewed as this anti racist place.
I'm not sure what are you talking about. I'm Spanish and the first people to criticize Spain is Spanish people. Probably you've never even heard of all the problems our country has. Unemployment, corruption, house okupation, lots of small crime, mafia related crime for all the drugs trying to enter Europe, lots of immigration as Spain is one of the doors to Europe... I can go on. For all of these there's a lot of debate and not much being done so far...
I (a US citizen) literally didn't get a job in Germany because one member on the team objected because I didn't speak German yet. The company is "English first" and I worked in the US division previously. So yeah, Europeans are certainly as capable of being racist. And they didn't even try to hide it!
If you think some of us from the USA are bad about assuming we are the center of the world and that everybody we speak to online is from the US… you should see some of the people we live with!
I met a Midwest chick on a plane who said she didn't believe other countries existed.
I'm still not sure if she was dumb, crazy, or a pathological liar.
None of those negate the other options.
You sure she didn't mean North Dakota?
Because same. I'm still convinced that it's fake.
Bruh who you talkin bout I don't give a shit about this fucked up country
Then why dont you leave it?
Do you realize how difficult it is to move from one country to another? It's expensive as hell, and if you're a US citizen you still owe taxes on money you make while living abroad.
Additionally, the cost to renounce US citizenship is the highest in the world by a large margin. $2350 + exit taxes, as of this writing. https://common.usembassy.gov/en/renounce-citizenship/
Next highest is Jamaica at $1040 as of this writing. https://congenjamaica-ny.org/renunciation-of-jamaican-citizenship/
The USA is an inescapable hellhole for the poor, so think for a few seconds before you make another shit comment like this.
Primarily because it's really difficult to move countries. Even when an other country is "better", by whatever metric you may choose, the high switching cost makes the move worse for individuals unless staying in a country is really really bad. That threshold is typically when subsistence in the country of origin becomes untenable, often due to war or famine.
Half the population has less than 1000 bucks in savings and doesn't have a degree like an MD that would bump them to the top of the list as far as citizenship elsewhere. How do you propose people make this happen? The people who are most disadvantaged are those who would have the hardest time doing so.
I think it's definitely true that Americans get defensive when you criticize the US. I also think it's true that a huge reason for that, is because the only thing the internet seems to enjoy doing at the moment is complain about the US—no one likes to hear their country that they're living happily in trashed on constantly.
And I say that as someone who deeply enjoys complaining about the US
So I work with a lot of people from a variety of countries. Some of those countries have really bad governments. When we joke about each other's countries, it's about the governments. I remember this guy who used to work with me from the Philippines. It was near the beginning of lockdowns and just after Duterte was elected. He made fun of the shit Trump was saying and doing, and I got to joke that they had their own Trump(maybe worse) coming. Australian co-workers laugh along when we joke about their shit politicians.
What we don't do is joke about the people or the culture. That's shitty. All those people are just as much victims of their own circumstances as we all are of our own. But we're adults who work with each other every day and it's easy to remember that we're all real people. The internet however...
I haven't noticed Americans getting upset when people criticize shitty government policies or decisions. At least not from people who aren't boot-lickers from jump. The problem is when people make fun of American stereotypes. Americans are fat and loud and whatever. Like, if all you heard was people talking about Canadians being stuck up about needing things written in French or topped with poutine, it would probably get old, right? "Go cry at your Tim Horton's and take your polar bear for a walk." (okay, so I had to google Canadian stereotypes and it's a short list.)
I don't like America's gun culture either. And I hate when it comes up there's always someone who comes in and preaches the gospel of the 2nd amendment. It also doesn't feel great when people make that generalization about me. This thread is full of people saying Americans are dumb and racist. That's just shitty behavior that no one bats an eye at because it's normal to make those jokes. If I started making comments about like, French people smelling bad or (insert some other offensive thing. I don't keep track of bad stereotypes and I'm done googling it) then that would also be bad and it's a thing I think we should start calling out across the board.
You've absolutely nailed it. The problem is when people use the faults of a country to generalize or reinforce predijuce about individuals, and it is interesting how quickly some people just accept it.
I also work within an international collaboration, and the xenophobia on the internet is so shameful. There's no way any of it would fly in real life. You have to develop respect for people as individuals to work closely/effectively.
There is a % of people in every country no matter what, trash talk and think their country is the best. They are often closed minded and ironically the type of person that others like them in other counties talk trash about. Best not to stoop down and let that % do what they are gonna do.
Lol, what? You can make fun of us. We're pretty fucking funny... But like, in a sad, defeated kind of way... Like, we're sleeping in the gutter and pretending we're fine, but at least we are looking at all those stars.
We don't need to move. This is fine. We're fine. Fuck off, we're fine. You can't help us, anyway.
A good analogy to this is the emperor of America. He was just some homeless crazy dude in San Francisco in the 1860s. He attempted to price gouge the Chinese during their rice famine but shortly found himself under water on his rice contracts. This left him homeless and bitter so he named himself emperor of the United States. He somehow started printing his own money and some places feeling bad for him took it.
That's how the world sees America. Oh, the crazy folk are just down on their luck. They'll likely either die or end the world in a few years but at least they're making record profits.
All hail Emporer Norton!
Yeah, we're damn fine!
All/hot is exactly like this but the complete opposite
That's exactly what happens to me when I tell them America is a continent. Like, WTF?
So is America one or two continents? Our US schools call them North America and South America despite being connected as a single land mass.
The other fun one to spring on we United States of America citizens if that the full and proper name of Mexico is "The United Mexican States". Having Mexico have a name and a similar idea of states forming a union, but not bring the USA doing it really bugs people here.
America is indeed two continents, North and South. Continents aren't just connected land masses, they are the major tectonic plates that the earths crust is divided into. North America is on the North American plate, South America on the South American plate.
There ARE some interesting facts on this though. Unlike NA and SA, which ARE distinct continents, Europe and Asia genuinely are NOT separate continents; both are contained on the absolutely massive Eurasian tectonic plate(NA plate is technically bigger, but a lot of it's in the ocean). Another fun fact is that the absolute most north-eastern part of Siberia is technically part of North America.
Whether it's one continent or two, the point is that it's bigger than the United States. At least I've always studied that Americans are people who live in America, either from Canada, United States, Mexico, Cuba, Nicaragua, Argentina... Then you can divide them between North Americans and South Americans.
We’ll just one-up the crazy: ‘Murica is the ONLY continent.
I'm American, from South America. I think maybe the post refers to the gringos :-)
Where's the bit about Americans making fun of America and talking shit about it?
As long as you have no oil, there's no reason to fear us.
Or democratically elect a left-leaning government, or give away land to your own poor citizens to develop instead of to a company.
Americans (and Canadians, we're not above this problem): "I hate our government! They lie about everything and have no regard for human rights or even basic integrety! But also I uncritically believe everything they say about other countries that they already hate and have a massive political and economic incentive to smear because their governments are obviously way worse, I know that because my government told me so."
So basically a hexbear, got it.
Look at you trying to stir the pot. How cute. <3
Eh, not my impression at all
As long as your country has no oil, you can insult them without fear of retribution
I call BS. I feel it's more popular than ever to dunk on the US. Like, there's still a sect of 'MURICAN PATURYOTS that get big mad, but most of us are well aware of reality.
This is just more us versus them. Distraction
What other countries. I thought it was supposed to be Americans didn't know geography and didn't care to remember anyone else existed.
In order for us to expend some sort of energy making fun of someone, we'd have to both think of you and work ourselves up to caring about people we know little about in places we'll literally never visit. I'd have to look up new slurs and read up on international politics and shit.
That sounds like a lot, if I'm being honest, and I'd rather rag on Ohio.
reading the comments is making me exhausted
nuclear launch detected
This isn't true and how dare you suggest otherwise! 🌼
More like China…
IIT: dozens of extremely sensitive Americans not getting the irony
Gringos are an special kind
I know you, hi! 👋
It's exciting when I see users I recognize 😋
hi
Well thats a Same moment.
On the internet, maybe?
So far my impression has been that this is less of a problem on Lemmy compared to other places
Relatable AF.
Yeah that's what happens
Meh. Little dogs gotta bark.
lmao look at all those downvotes. just like Reddit.
yea idk about lemmy but in reddit people get SO upset over criticizing America. it's the weirdest shit. Isn't this the same group that goes on about "THE WEST"? why are they all so spiteful of Europeans?
even the Americans criticizing America are dismissed as having internalized shame. wonder what those folks have to say about other forms of internalized bigotry...
seriously those, these fucking jingoists ought to try living in another developed nation. there's such much awful backwards shit in the US. It's pretty sad when your main point of pride that America has more iPhones than Venezuela and more evil gays than Iran
...soo its at 488 upvotes. Is there some way downs don't reduce the upvotes?
you can view them separately, somewhere in settings, your app may vary, desktop avail
Your meme adds nothing to the discussion and is just blanket inflammatory.
America just sucks... and I don't think it's the goverments fault but the normal people living there.
Weird take but ok
It's all fun and games until you run to us for bombs 😂
An american saying "don't come to us for bombs" is like a mexican saying don't come to us for tacos.
I think they're referring to vietnam when the french requested the ? Eisenhower admin to nuke dien-bien-fu.
