I just assumed light speed was a colloquialism for hyperdrive.
At any rate, hyperdrive blows warp out of the water in raw speed. A trip across the galaxy is just a few days. The downside is that you're pretty much limited to already charted safe routes unless you want to test your luck with potential ship-killing hazards that can't be detected before hitting them.
"The Infinite Improbability Drive is a wonderful new method of crossing interstellar distances in a few seconds, without all that tedious mucking about in hyperspace. As the Improbability Drive reaches infinite improbability, it passes through every conceivable point in every conceivable universe almost simultaneously. So you're never sure where you'll end up or even what species you'll be when you get there. It's therefore important to dress accordingly. The Drive was invented following research into finite improbability often used to break the ice at parties by making all the molecules in the hostess's undergarments leap one foot to the left in accordance with the theory of indeterminacy. Many physicists said they wouldn't stand for that sort of thing, partly because it debased science, but mostly because they didn't get invited to those sort of parties." Hitchhiker's Guide
Depends. Are you asking about the canon Kessel run, or the objectively superior EU version?
In the EU pre-Disney, Kessel was a black hole and there was a race around it. The more powerful your engines, the closer you could get to the black hole. Which is why Han used a distance measurement instead of time (of course, the most likely in-universe fan theory is that Han was BSing the two farm yokels by throwing out space technobabble, but Star Wars authors never settle for the easy answer when they could write an entire book to fill in the plot-hole).
Never made sense in the EU. You get yanked out of hyperspace way before you need to account for that kind of gravity. My headcanon was always that it's just some spacer jargon we don't have the context to parse. Like how a 12 second car is fast, even though time is not a unit of speed.
The Falcon is much bigger than a runabout. 23.1 meters by 13.7 meters for the runabout, 34.7 by 23.8 for the Falcon. It's 1.5 times longer and 1.7 times wider.
Even as a kid I knew that, and hated the “light speed” references.
Later on, I justified it as imprecise use of language, which happens all the time anyway. “Light speed” became a generic term for “going super fast”. Or something.
Yea but warp 9 isn‘t 9x the size of light but much much more (somewhere between 800x and 1600x, depending which source you believe. But it’s not like trek canon is consistent there).
I suppose it’s somewhat logarithmic, since Warp 1 is c and warp 10 is infinite speed. probably gets a bit annoying in the Warp 9.975 range.
From inside the ship, light speed is faster. You travel arbitrary distance in an instant.
Outside the ship, everyone else sees you moving 1 light year per year, but for passengers, the voyage is essentially a forward-only time machine.
From outside the ship, warp speed is faster. Observers will see the warp bubble with a ship inside it moving >1 light year per year, and because it will arrive at its destination before light from the ships own past will arrive there, it acts like a view-only backwards time machine.
for the passengers it's a backwards only time machine, since they travel back to a few centuries when they arrive, because that's the speed it would take them with light speed
To be clear, even if you're moving at 1000x the speed of light, and have figured out a way around relativity so that you don't have time dilation (and so you can, y'know, go faster than the speed of light), galactic distances are still so vast that interstellar traffic is largely not feasible. Our galaxy--one of billions, trillions, or more--is about 2M light years across. Going all the way across the galaxy at 1000x the speed of light would still take 2000 years.
Milky Way is much smaller than that. The Andromeda galaxy is 2.5M light years away. Maybe that's where you got 2M from. The Milky Way is about 100,000 light year diameter.
If we somehow figured out how to travel at 1000x speed of light, I'm sure we'll be able to increase that number to 1 million, 1 billion, and beyond. Until we just stopped using "speed of light" as a frame reference because it would be a completely different method of traveling (like instantaneous through a wormhole or something).
Lightspeed seems to be a catch-all layterm that means the speed of light and everything faster. Hyperspace is a better description of what's happening. And different ships traverse hyperspace at different speeds depending on their engine.
"I've outrun Imperial starships. I don't mean the local bulk cruisers, I'm talking about the big Corellian ships now."
Which is faster? I guess it would depend on which ships you're comparing to each other.
Lightspeed seems to be a catch-all layterm that means the speed of light and everything faster. Hyperspace is a better description of what's happening. And different ships traverse hyperspace at different speeds depending on their engine.
In Star Trek or sci-fi in general?
Light speed is the theoretical maximum speed limit at which an object with mass can move within normal space. Hyperspace was a sci-fi invention that was used as a theoretical work around for this problem. So any space that allows you to travel faster than the speed of light is technically hyperspace, whether that be extra dimensional travel, or going through a wormhole.
This is an excellent reference; it's one of the few times in the trilogy details are made in technical terms.
Point 5 of what? Is it just 450 million kilometers per second? Seems hardly likely, since they're zipping between star systems in matters of hours. So is it, like in Star Trek, some logarithmic scale, where 1 is equivalent to warp 10, and you turn into a mudskipper.
However, The Empire is "The Galactic Empire," and the intro to IV implies the events take place in a single galaxy "far, far away." So all Wars travel is within a single galaxy. Trek ships travel the universe, visiting nebula and other galaxies. The distances between galaxies (millions of LY) dwarf those within galaxies (hundreds of thousands). Trek ships are vastly faster than Wars ships, by this measure alone.
Trek ships don't go to other galaxies often, they specifically talk about it being incredibly slow to even go to tbe other side of our galaxy. That's the whole premise of Voyager, they got stranded at the other end of the galaxy and it will take decades to get back. The exception of course being discovery with its spore drive. They have no issues leaving the galaxy, though they don't do it often.
It's dumb but it's been retroactively taken to mean that it has a Class 0.5 hyperdrive, whereas a Star Destroyer has a Class 2. (Smaller class numbers are faster.) Light speed in Star Wars can be much faster than the speed of light.
But then, pretty much everything to do with specifications and numbers of Star Wars tech is a clusterfuck of technobabble that makes Voyager's look coherent.
The Star Wars universe doesn't make much sense spatially anyway. Locations are as close or as far apart as the plot requires, sometimes ridiculously so, and never more or less.
Janeway fucked that sexy Irish holodeck character. She was fiending for dick. Then she got that dick and crafted that dick into a better dick and then she locked herself out of tinkering with the dick even further.
I’m assuming OP means that the fictional warp drive and light speed drives from the television show and motion picture respectively, are not in fact real. But I could be totally off base and this random commenter on a Star Trek forum created a conspiracy theory nobody has heard of. /s
For one you can not go the speed of light, it is not possible.
My point is that the spacecraft in both star wars and star trek behave in a way that suites the plot. If the writing needs a craft to to take longer to get somewhere then they will add distance to the journey or decrease its speed.
It is a waste of time trying to argue about fictional story telling