I think that's probably giving him too much credit. He's not really a democratic politician, he's a fascist.
My bet is that he is constructing a loyalty test to weed out opposition within the ranks. Anyone who doesn't fully give into the cult of personality gets put on a list of people he can't trust.
He doesn't really care about gaetz, but gaetz has pissed off enough people within the party to act as a good tool to test the waters of his own party.
Ahh yes, engaging in harm reduction is the exact same as voting for genocide. I'm glad nuance is still alive and well in 2024.
"I don't like genocide, so I'm going to enable the president who enabled the genocide in the first place, and has promised to make it even worse."
You guys know the only reason Benny was confident enough to begin the ethnic cleansing was because Trump ended the nuclear agreement with Iran? And that the real goal of the Israeli state is to rope America into an all out war with Iran.
US foreign diplomacy is usually unanimously terrible, but the one issue they've actually differentiated with in the last few decades has been Iran.
Do you guys think it can't get worse for the Arab world, or are you too busy virtue signaling to engage in meaningful harm reduction?
I mean, joe bided and Harris are soulless liberal ghouls, but they aren't openly fascist. It's like I'm talking to people in the Weimar Republic abstaining from voting because of the Namibian genocide, and then having them say Bruning is the same as Hitler.
It's perfectly fine to condemn them for the genocide that's currently happening, but falsely equivocating them as exactly the same does nothing but take away options from the people who are actually in harms way.
No? What did I say that made you think I'm a trump supporter? I'm criticizing folks for celebrating harm coming to their fellow Americans.
Mostly it's the regurgitation of radical propaganda.......
No? I'm honestly not sure I understand your question about the civil war.
The civil war parallel was made because you are parroting propaganda that's been endemic in the South for the last 150 years. That the war wasn't about slavery, that the North just hated rural people's culture.
The parallel throws me off because the point I'm making is Dems are maybe not "just as racist" as Rs but the fact they're proving latinos were seen as pawns to be used when the Dems platform was basically everything Rs wanted while Trump was in office (minus family separations.
Ahh yes, because a minority of of internet strangers have some bad takes, the two parties are basically the same.........except for the little caveat of family separation and interment camps thing, and even though Trump's main campaign promise was to immediately deport everyone he can.....
There's certainly parallels to the civil war, the Northerners absolutely did not like it when free black American citizens first started to move there when fleeing terrorism I'm the South.
And how is that a parallel to modern times? Pretty sure there were sanctuary cities all over during Trump's first presidency.
That's how we got red-lining and the modern for-profit prison system.
You're talking about two separate times in history separated by a hundred years of lived history. After the civil war, before conservatives torpedos reconstruction, black Americans actually gained a lot of economic and political power. Redlining and the modern prison system were a reactionary response by conservatives to desegregation.
I am absolutely not doing what you're saying. Let me know how I came off that way. I'm trying to be as specific as possible here. People that are celebrating bad things happening to their fellow Americans. Stop. That's it. That is gross, to me.
You just so happen to be parroting several different pieces of propaganda used to falsely equivocate the both sides argument popular among accelerationists and radical conservatives...Interesting.
Our people didn't vote. Because of that we celebrate latinos being deported?
Who is our people?
Wish this could be a light conversation. This is truly not that serious. It's a chat on fuckin lemmy (imagine this place is huge one day. lol)
I wish we could just have a light conversation about the fascist said the German to the Jews......
It's almost like even tangentially supporting fascism isnt a light hearted conversation?
Yeap, I'm a product of an interracial marriage who is currently in an interracial marriage with someone who is openly bisexual, in the reddest state in America. I'm probably going to be pulling the rifles out of the attic for a good cleaning this weekend.
The real dirty truth is that Rashida Tlaib belongs to a 1500 year old delusional authoritarian cult of personality that spread across Arabia and the Mediterranean (Gaza included) by force of genocide, violence and cultural destruction, and that (not unlike evangelical Christians and orthodox Jews)
Lol, so we're equating all Muslims as violent genocidal cultists, but only evangelical Christians and Orthodox Jews are problematic?
Muslims in America will always be loyal to their backwards, oppressive religion rather than to fundamental concepts like democracy, secular society, equality, and justice under the law.
And is that different to the vast majority of Christians and Jews? It's not evangelicals that ended roe v wade, just a couple trad Catholics. It's not the Orthodox Jews doing the genocide, just regular people.
There is no such thing as an anti-genocide Muslim, as the prophet Mohammad himself was nothing but a violent conqueror and killer of all who opposed his dogma
Lol, tell me you've never read the old testament without telling me you've never read the old testament.
Ask these hypocrites how it happened that Arab Muslims ended up living in Gaza in the first place...
"Arab muslims" is a modern cultural designation based on language and religion. Modern Palestinians hail from the same Semitic people as Jews, and have inhabited the levanth since the early bronze age. You are not only incredibly ill hearted, but also incredibly stupid.
Yeah, who would have guessed that modernity was invented by someone who stuck magnets to a fidget spinner and strapped it to a boiler.
I haven't read this book, but I'm pretty skeptical of how they define nonviolent resistance and what makes a revolution "successful"
The Iranian Revolution, 1977–1979
- The First Palestinian Intifada, 1987–1992
- The Philippine People Power Movement, 1983–1986
- Why Civil Resistance Sometimes Fails: The Burmese Uprising, 1988–1990 Case Study Summary
Are the revolutions they are principally utilizing, and that makes me think this book isn't exactly the most academically honest study around.
The Iranian revolution had battles in the streets and plenty of deadly clashes with the Shahs regime. It also led the the largest political massacre in the country's history.
The Philippine People Power Movement
The yellow revolution funded militant groups, featured a helicopter attack on the president's compound, and only didn't devolve into a massacre of civilians because a marine commander refused to participate in the wholesale slaughter of tens of thousands of people.
The First Palestinian Intifada
Led to the deaths of over a thousand civilians and is a precursor the the genocide we are currently witnessing.
The Burmese Uprising
Started fairly similar to the Philippine uprising, except their military commanders were perfectly fine massacring civilians, with a death toll of 3k-10k people....
I am willing to give this a read, but I would also suggest other people read "Setting Sites" by Scott Crow as a counterpoint.
That's an incredibly reductionist and ahistorical explanation of how the Nazis overthrew the Weimar Republic.....
Not to mention incredibly dismissive to the thousands of people who were literally battling brown shirts in the streets of Berlin leading up to the burning of the reichstag .
The Nazi didn't rise to power because people had a defeatist attitude, it's because the Nazi murdered their opposition, were perfectly fine with intimidating voters, and were backed by corporations and a significant portion of the population who blamed socialism for the economic slump of postwar Germany.
If you truly believe this, I highly suggest reading "The Death of Democracy" by Benjamin Hett. Phone calls aren't going to sway the opinions of someone who fundamentally doesn't think you should be alive.
I think it you actually talk to folks there aren't a ton of strict ancaps but your definition.
There aren't any ancaps by any definition. I didn't claim hating taxes was central to the tenets of "ancap", just that it's the originating seed of ideology as a whole.
Capitalism is arguably a more hierarchical system of organizing a body of people than the militaries they were built to reflect. There's a historical reason they label themselves as a company, with commanding officers.....
Anarchism and capitalism are antithetical ideas, you can't have them both. Any one who believes themselves to be ancap are at best an idiotic libertarian, and at worst a disingenuous corporatist.
AnCap here,
You're just a libertarian...... There's no such thing as ancap, it's literally an oxymoron.
You can't simultaneously believe that hierarchical structures are inherently abusive, and then not apply that same logic to the highly hierarchical system of capitalism.
If you hate taxes that much, just pretend that the IRS is just an aggressive subscription service from America LLC.
If you've spent a lot of time studying history and revolutions......in your opinion, what does it mean when someone says "we should take care of this ourselves"?
In reference to our current political situation, how else would an individual or a small group of like minded individuals "take care" of the situation?
Show your true colors y'all! Finally, you can stop pretending you truly care about struggling Americans that don't share the same values as you
By values, you mean supporting a violent and openly fascist political party whose main goal is to hunt migrants to deport?
Hopefully we can at least admit rural folks are absolutely correct in feeling like we hate them.
Lol, is that the same logic you apply to the civil war? The North just hated the South for their rural ways?
I wouldn't agree with what the person you are responding to says, because I don't think anyone deserves not be ripped from their homes. But I can understand why people would wish unpleasant times to people who voted to do exactly that.
Falsely equivocating all of that down to, "hating rural folks" for their country ways is inaccurate, ahistorical, and highly reductive.
I don't understand what you're saying. I'm trying to do the exact opposite of celebrating anyone's misfortune. That's kinda gross, to me
Oh please, the specific criticism you brought up unprovoked has been repeated nearly exclusively by leftist accelerationists who are too busy virtue signaling to even bother to participate with electorial harm reduction.
It may be a holdover from an aging stereotype. Not sure how the kids nowadays perceive east Asians, but in the 90's it was definitely the cause of a lot of the fights I got into as a kid.
And when there’s finally enough people, nobody has to “go first”.
I mean, it's what the person you responded to was talking about..... Am i supposed to "take your words for granted" and also assume you were making a point completely disjointed from the original context?
There's a better video of a guy who is pretty clearly involved in organized crime, front kicking him in the chest, and then beating the shit out of his two friends by himself.
I've been waiting for him to go to Korea. A lot of western people still think Chinese, Japanese, and Korean people are a homogeneous bunch of meek doormats.
Korean culture is polite, but also very very angry if it's not reciprocated. Plus, every dude grew up with a national sport that involves kicking people and then they have to go into the military.
This dude got assaulted by random Korean dudes like 4 different times and streamers put out a bounty on his head. The hilarious part is that the news stations and police are protecting the identity of the people who assaulted him, but have made him public enemy number 1.
Understanding that people regularly vote against their own interest and then gleefully celebrate them doing so........ You are also sounding real fucking evil bud.
Alternatively you can do what I do when we find dead deer on the property. Just a shallow hole with a layer of sawdust and straw covering it that's been inoculated with lactic bacteria acid.
The lactic acid bacteria supercharges the decomposition process and prevents any smell associated with putrefaction. You basically pickle the corpse with bacteria that outperforms the natural rotifier microorganisms.
In this method you can fully decompose a 150lb deer in around 30 days without any real smell. You can also then retrieve the bones, roast them over a fire to make them brittle, and then break them down to dissolve in regular vinegar, making a liquid calcium spray for your garden.
To learn how to make your own lactic acid bacteria at home using everyday products, you can look into Korean organic farming.
I mean that's a nice sentiment, but it's not the late 19th century anymore. Even if it was, that's not really how revolutions worked in the past.
The majority of revolutions that have been successful in the past have sprung from pre-arranged hierarchical bodies like the military. There is a reason the US military was developed to be domestically apolitical, and is forbidden to operate in any real sense within the United States.
If there is some sort of revolution it's perfectly reasonable to assume there will be Martyrs, it's also perfectly reasonable to not want to willingly participate in martyrdom.