Political unity

wait til this guy learns about World War Two

tankie means leftist i dont like

NO U

Stunning. Incredible take.

Also they said fascism, not nazi-fascism. Tankies aren't nazis. They excuse completely different genocides than the holocaust.

Russia is an oligarchy, not a communist state. Where have you been since the 1990s?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Yes very well articulated. He even managed to use democrat as an insult. Stunning and brave.

They said tankies, not Russian communism.

Everybody knows russian communism is marginally better than fascism, except those who survived it and fascistly say it's as bad.

It's true because Thomas said it?

Edit: Nice downvotes but I would actually like to know his reasoning.

The real nazis were the friends we made along the way.

Poignant, thanks.

Found the tankie

If you're willing to do "whatever it takes" including instituting fascism, you're a fascist.

Such as justifying capitalist oligarchs that pretend to be socialists like Putin and Xi.

Actually, Putin doesn't even pretend to be socialist. He's pretty unashamedly capitalist. Tankies love the guy anyway.

Tankies don't give a fuck about socialism.

Tankies, just like other fascists, are willing to do whatever it takes to gain and keep power, including pretending to support socialism

If I was to give this point of the benefit of the doubt (which, to be clear, I don't) what you're saying is that tankies are accelerationists. And I get it, to an extent -- a comfortable middle class isn't going to be concerned about the depredations of the right until they start to find themselves in the crosshairs -- but the last time fascists got their way in the world, more than 73 million people died. Arguing, in effect, that the aftermath of another world war will be better for the survivors is a... challenging point to defend when it requires you to dismiss the deaths of a significant percentage of the world's population, especially when those most in danger from a rising right wing are those that a supposed left-winger should most want to protect. Sacrificing religious, ethnic, and sexual minorities on the altar of a better future for religious, ethnic, and sexual minorities doesn't sit well with me.

Whatever it takes including sending tanks after people because they don't agree with your rule or am I missing something? Tankies is literally authoritarian or do you mean that your ideology is different and you want people to stop calling you that?

You have a choice between 1) capitalism that's free for all, fuck the earth, fuck the workers, fuck the consumer, disband the EPA, OSHA, FTC, or 2) capitalism that's regulated, with environmental protection, worker protections, minimum wages, workplace standards, product regulations, etc. The choice should be obvious.

If they're voting for Biden then why are they saying they won't vote for Biden and are encouraging others not to vote for Biden? 🤔

Such as allying with the fascists so hard that Stalin was in talks to join the axis before Barbarossa.

project 2025 is not a socialist revolution

Lol, which is why historically they have coalitioned with the right to murder the socialists before the socialists could take power.

Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Luke 23:34

You can see by the 85% like ratio on this post that 15% of this community thinks this way.

I call trump supporters Redcaps after the especially blood thirsty kind of Goblin

What's a similarly degrading fantasy creature that's known for being a mindless parrot of whatever is said to it by its master? Or would that fit the people who fall for the state trolls better?

Most trolls are state sponsored narrative promoting spam now so the perpetually online nerd who like starting arguments should get a new name.

How about artyom?

This is historically incorrect. The T-90 didn't enter service until 1992. They would have gotten into T-54/55s or T-44. Possibly even T-34s?

Wishing the people emulating (knowingly or unknowingly) the ideology of the SDP would look a little harder at how backing Hindenburg instead of Thälmann worked out for both Germany and them.

Marxism: History is defined by material conditions and value comes from appropriated labour which workers are entitled to. Thus society should be oriented around collective ownership of the means of production in order to elevate the material conditions of the worker and usher in a new age of history. It is inevitable that the owning class will resort to violence to maintain their position and so this change will be a violent struggle. Eventually the state itself should be abolished once the transition is complete. Also this is inevitable because umm science wand wave.

Fascism: Power should be centralised on strong men wiling to make hard choices, everyone else should live subservient to the state. Military power, an ethnonational identity, and autarchy are the highest pursuits. Concession and concensus are weakness, might is the ultimate expression of power and violence for the glory of the nation is beautiful. Modernity is degenerate and we should idolise a mythologised past based around an ethnic group we claim the mantle of.

SleezyDizasta: Could these be the same? 🧐

I'm not sure you know what Marxism or Fascism are... I think you just think everyone who doesn't think like you is pure evil.

probably getting shot for not wearing enough religious flair. Any half decent strategist knows you only choose the quick path when you have overwhelming power.

Countries that aren't the US of A exist.

I would encourage Fascists and Marxist to destroy each other so the world can finally be free of these two parasitic ideologies.

Sew it into what?

I believe it was coined by the British left when the USSR quashed the Hungarian revolution by driving tanks through their streets. Anyone still in support of them is deemed a "tankie." Nowadays it was meant to criticize authoritarian communists.

Was it from the Soviet Union? I always assumed it was a reference to justifying Tianamen Square.

I guess that more you know.

That is because you joined a social media platform made by socialists.

I apologize I'm only up to 's' in my quest to memoriz3 every fucking word ever used in the English language. 🙄 The fuckin word, "meme" is like a million years old. It doesn't mean it was as regularly used in conversation before social media. On a different note, for how many other languages use Lemy how would you know English is my primary language?

No, but considering Lemmy overall has grown 5800% in active monthly users in the first month the Reddit protests began, it's safe to assume most people haven't been here much longer than that lol. How long have you b3en using Lemy? 20 years? 50 years? Lol /s

Lmao

Now I kinda want to start a community called c/illiterate or c/incommunicado 😄

One of the awesome things about a community like this is that when tankies post their unironic takes, we can just pretend to agree with them and make them look like fools.

My mind is kinda blown by this. I always thought it was "queue", so "queue all liberals saying such and such" would be like "all liberals are going to line up to say such and such", but cue works!

I consider myself corrected, smartypants.

Are you really trying to act like mainstream media isn’t scared shitless right now of Biden’s presidential run? Are you blind or just trying to stay ignorant on purpose?

I'm simply stating the facts as they are, it is not my fault that the Democratic Party lost Arab and Muslim American voters.

but I am absolutely willing to put off Palestine

How would this argument win over Arab and Muslim Americans? You are basically saying: "I don't care if you get genocided but you have to care about me". On the upside as the polls show, Trump is even more unpopular than Biden so you can't blame us if Trump wins, blame those who voted for him.

so I dont get shot

Arab and Muslim Americans are already getting shot. My personal recommendation is start exercising your 2nd amendment rights:

so you dont get deported

So be it but only if Darrell Issa is deported first

Do you think Biden should drop out and be replaced by a Dem who could do better in the polls? I'm not pretending you have any power I'm sure someone as feckless as you doesn't. But you're the type to insist that he should stay in the race despite losing in the polls right?

Congratulations you said the dumbest thing I've seen all day!

Are you going to ignore how Hitler first killed the Socialist have you ever heard that poem that has the line when they came for the Jews I said nothing for I was not a Jew and when they came for me there was no one else left go reread that poem and tell me who the first people they took where?

Hitler used to refer to socialism as Jewish bolshivism. Do you know the Nazis killed more Soviet soldiers than any other country soldiers and that Soviets killed more Nazis than any other country killed Nazis.

Both my grandfathers were American soldiers during World War II one of them went to prisoner of Work Camp in Nazi Germany do you want to know who Freedom the f****** Soviets.

Do you know what country marched on Berlin and ended Nazi Germany?

You're fucking ignorant. Horseshoe theory is propaganda the US came up with during the Cold War. Read a book

One thing that doesn’t make sense, as if there were only one, is how societal collapse will somehow lead to communism. If the US collapses as a state, it would lead to the deaths of hundreds of millions due to spontaneous shifts in politics, supply chains, global economies, defense pacts and industries. The Great Depression would be a hopeful outlook. Rarely do I have the chance to say that I sincerely don’t want to eat people to survive.

And of the candidate who almost certainly will bring some degree of Genocide to the US while also intensifying it in Ukraine and Gaza.

doesn't address literally any of my comment lol. i cant conclude anything but you meant that reply for someone else. boy, you sure got egg on ur face L.M.A.O.