What happens to the rapist, then? Can he get partial custody of the child? Can he use that as an excuse to keep meeting or at least indirectly interacting with his rape victim?
What a great healing agent, to force women to be repeatedly reminded of that time when they were raped.
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered,
29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
That's pure evil, but one part stands out, not as the worst part, but somehow still stands out.
"and they are discovered." What's that got to do with anything? If this is from the religious point of view, then surely God knows what he did, so why would it matter if they're discovered. If it's from a legal point of view, then of course you can only redress crimes that are discovered, so there's no need to include that phrase.
So, including that phrase doesn't seem to have any relevance or benefit. Conversely, including a phrase like that does imply that if they're not discovered, then God doesn't care whether anything happens to the man. The girl has been violated and lost her virginity. But since they weren't discovered, there's no penalty, even from God.
The other thing this makes me think about is, "If the penalty for breaking a law is simply a fine, then the law really only applies to poor people." So, a person who can afford fifty shekels of silver can just pick any maiden he wants to marry, as long as she's not pledged to be married, even if he's old and gross. All he has to do is something terrible and then get "discovered." This section simply seems to legalize rape for rich people.
A child that will be a living, breathing reminder of their attack for the rest of their life is also a cruel thing to force upon them. But this is masochismsadism.
Hate to be THAT person, but it's sadism if you are referring to the guy who said it. Misogyny often breeds both though, so I can imagine the confusion.
From the article: "Also in 2022, a Michigan Republican candidate said he told his daughters “If rape is inevitable, you should just lie back and enjoy it.”
I do not think I've ever read a statement from someone that has pissed me off so fucking quickly. Someone needs to check on this man's daughters and fucking take them from him, forcibly if necessary, ASAP, and then put them with a family who legitimately loves them.
You're right. They are the ones platforming these types of people.
I'd like to hope that enough of them would hear something like that and be like "Gross, I want nothing to do with the likes of this fucking asshole", however, unfortunately, I do not know that this would be the reality. Which is an absolutely mind-boggling statement to make.
I would make this guy walk around with a cantaloupe in his ass for 9 months and then shit it out, take it home a day later, and send him a bill for $10k a week later.
I so wish there was a way to take away all this guys money, power, status, and then force him to push a baby out of his urethra...and then ask if he feels "healed".
Yeah, it looks like he wants to rape women and force them to have his rape babies. I'm guessing he's already raped somebody, based on this pro-rapist attitude.
If nothing else, he needs to come to terms with his vanishing hairline with more dignity than that. That 'Ghost of Chunk Sloth from Goonies' hairstyle does nothing fire him.
I literally feel ill. Like physically ill. My wife blessed me with my baby boy and imagining that someone could force her to go what she went through to get him into this world is... IDK what it is... Too angry rn. Fucking disgusting fuckfaces!
It seems more honest than touting exceptions as some sort of compromise. Have you ever thought of what a rape exception (or other exceptions) looks like in practice? They just don't happen. How many abortion providers are willing to test the law? How many pregnant people are able to get a police report necessary to be exempted? How many abortion providers are even practicing in states with rape exceptions to their otherwise strict abortion laws?
Arguing about what exceptions should or should not be on the books is a distraction. It's only service is to placate the general public into accepting barbaric abortion bans.
It's also the most logically consistent. I respect these shitstains infinitely more then Republican politicians who support exceptions.
Respect is doing a lot of work there, but really it comes to down to fact that at least they ACTUALLY believe abortion is murder.
All those other GOP politicians who support exceptions are just groveling maggots.
What? You believe it's okay to murder babies in certain circumstances? Get fucked.
If you're going to destroy the lives of countless women, at least do it because you have an actual deeply held conviction, and not simply that you want to win a primary.
This fuck-knuckle has 5 kids. If any of them are girls, I'd bet good money he wants this because he wants to be sure they can't have an abortion when he knocks one (or more) of them up, as part of his Handmaid's Tale fantasy.
I support the serial gang rape of Senators who support this legislation in perpetuity. If they're going to support this shit, they should walk a few hundred miles in their victims' shoes.
What is this garbage talk about God controlling whether a woman gets pregnant or not? It's a biological function, if the egg is there when the sperm is there, you get babies. It is not some holy blessed event -- God causing babies is about as sensible as the stork bringing them.
These people should get intragastric balloon shoved up their ass and inflated so they can feel some of the "greatest healing" first hand. It should be done against their will as well since they claim it's not an issue. You know, not to be left out of the whole greatness. Not quite fair that only females get to experience it.
If anyone complains how "god didn't meant for balloons to be in our assholes", just make a counter argument: if that were true why did it make us fart then. Clearly air is suppose to be there.
If anyone complains how “god didn’t meant for balloons to be in our assholes”, just make a counter argument: if that were true why did it make us fart then. Clearly air is suppose to be there.
Or use their own argument, “God doesn’t make mistakes.” If that balloon is up your ass, even though you didn't want it there, then too bad. God wills it so.
You KNOW he's just going to respond "I've had bigger shits" and then cry about it in a closed room.
If logic was ever going to work on these morons, it would've happened decades ago.
e. I feel like it's also important to note that there are dumb as fuck women who also believe this fucking nonsense and these laws would have far less efficacy if it didn't have their support (looking at all those ladies with (R) beside their name)
I'll bet he thinks forced marriage to said rapist is a Great Healing Agent too. (He's never advocated this as far as I know, and I'm not trying to put words in his mouth. But c'mon, we gotta Bring Back the Nuclear Family, no?)
Would a rapist not take this as encouragement? Would this not make women feel incredibly unsafe? Why do men have no equivalent laws that restrict what they can do with their own body?
The problem is (a) Republicans don't care if the issue isn't their own, and (b) Republicans seem to lack the capacity for identifying systemic failures. It's like an object-permanence thing with them. If they can't physically see the thing happening directly with their two eyes, then there is no relation. Like they're blind to negative externalities or indirect side-effects. at the macro level.
In other words... There's a reason these folks don't normally make great engineers or scientists.
Frankly, he should be forced to watch the still birth of his own child from 10cm away, at breakfast time, every day for the rest of his life, while some sanctimonious asshole tells him and his wife it's all part of God's plan.
Force him to have a baby. He'll change his tune as its ripping his urethra. I hope this awaits each of these bastards if hell were spiritual instead of physically on this Earth.
This is EXACTLY what Republicans mean when they say they're HARD on Rapists! After a Rapist Rapes your daughter it's illegal for her to get an Abortion and if she does her Rapist gets a bunch of money from her!
how ironic, if a man rapes a woman she's forced to have the baby and he goes to jail. but if a man rapes HIS woman (wife, daughter, sister), she'd forced to have the baby but he needs to die.
they don't care because this doesn't involve them.
Look, if our species was somehow struggling with birth rates and was on the verge of extinction, I might agree… but taking away someone’s bodily autonomy? No, that’s a step taken way too far over the line.