The Highway Patrol’s investigation into a November Cybertruck crash in Piedmont where three college kids died is finding two very Tesla problems: the vehicle immediately caught fire, and its doors would not open.
Summary
A Tesla Cybertruck crashed in Piedmont last November, killing three college students after hitting a cement wall and bursting into flames.
The California Highway Patrol (CHP) attributed the crash to intoxication and high speed but found that the victims likely died from the fire.
Testimony revealed the vehicle’s doors would not open after the crash, preventing rescue attempts. A survivor was pulled out after a bystander broke a window with a tree branch.
The CHP’s investigation into the crash remains ongoing.
But when he attempted to pull Tsukahara from that same window, Riordan testified, "I grabbed her arm to try and pull her towards me, but she retreated because of the fire."
Remember that the right wing media rushed to blame this on speeding and intoxication without mentioning that they were still alive and able to move when the vehicle was on fire. They were cooked alive inside, foreseeably and preventably, and that was covered up in a way that maximized the shame the victims' families felt. Deplorable.
The Cybertruck fans have basically just decided that because one of them was a drunk driver they don't need to think about the rest of it and it's fine that they died.
I bet, if they were to analyze the car's logs, they'll also find that nasty behavior in the software, where it disables all the autodrive stuff before impact, including ceasing to brake, so it can't be "blamed" for causing a wreck. (Whether or not they were using it at the time.)
This is propaganda, opening a cybertruck door is very easy.
First you bring up the "doors" menu on the console. Then tap "right door" to get to the right door sub menu. Then tap "open". If you get error "tsla3456" that means the truck is on fire. Normal cars don't recognize when they're on fire, this is a smart thing done by smart people at Tesla. So then you just go back to the "doors" menu, tap "right door" again, then "advanced" and then "overrides". Enter the error number you want to ignore in the "ignore errors" item. Now you go back to "doors", "right door" and tap "open" and the door will open easily.
Tesla even offers a free "door opening" course that's just 2 hours long to go over all of the options you have for opening your cybertruck doors. It's really the victims fault if they didn't bother to learn how to use their vehicle.
Issue here is I'm not sure I recognize where the sarcasm is. This description of the door functioning system looks plausible to me when we talk about a Swastikar.
i'm sorry for my rudeness, but i think that's a skill issue. Give it a couple more seconds of thought and realizing a shitty door locking mechanism/system faulting and not deliberately convoluted menu programming is pretty clearly the reason for the door failure.
you know i started that reply and then i found that NHTSA's staff has already been cut by 4% cause DOGE(pronounced "dough - ghee") and now im like yeah actually this might be the kind of thing that gets thru regulators now...
PS mods, if the skill issue comment is a rule breaker i can remove it, pwease dont ban me again for 'attacking the person and not the argument'.
If you follow these instructions you would be dead within minutes!
Tsla3456 is for water
Tsla3356 is for fire
You would know this if you did the advanced fire safety course for $450. It was the only thing I heard about a the basic door course.
"after a bystander broke a window with a tree branch"
Ah yes, the bulletproof windows that could double as submergible windows for an unspecified amount of time at an unspecified depth.
He moved operations to Texas where regulations can get fucked and he bought the United States government and fired anyone looking into his shit. Sign up now for Neuralink! You will never get out.
One of the worst things about this incident is that it was some teenagers and early 20s kids. College freshman that burned to death or died of inhalation while someone tried to rescue them 😢
That is absolutely horrible and heartbreaking to read. I wish more people would actually understand what dangerous pieces of trash Tesla's are and quit buying them all together.
There are cameras inside the car, it self drives... imagine if it used AI to decide if the driver was Jewish. Or queer. Or just a particular individual who might be thrown out a window were they in Russia. And it steered itself into a wall and burst into flames, destroying any internal telemetry that might tell the story.
The technology is there. The regulatory agencies that might investigate are gutted. There is nothing but the integrity of a few programmers standing in the way. Programmers whose livelihoods and perhaps admission to the US are at stake.
That feels awfully thin.
There's a fucking conspiracy theory for the nutters.
imagine if it used AI to decide if the driver was Jewish. Or queer. Or just a particular individual who might be thrown out a window were they in Russia. And it steered itself into a wall and burst into flames, destroying any internal telemetry that might tell the story.
That's basically how the plot of Upload kicks off, and when I realized "holy crap, that's totally possible".
You’re the only other person I have ever heard mention that they had watched that show. I liked it. I thought it was decent, but nobody else seemed to.
I don't think that a lot of the people who would be likely targets for such an attack are the same people who would be buying Teslas in the first place.
Well, the government organization that allowed consumers to complain, get the money back along with a settlement, and have the product recalled, was recently "fed into a wood chipper" by the guy who makes the cybertrucks.
Are they saying the doors were not damaged and still didn’t open? I could see the doors being damaged and resulting in them not opening. I’m sure that’s common.
The doors use a push button mechanism to open. There's no handle, no place to grip, nothing. You tap a button, that opens the door. Meaning if the internal electronics have been messed up, congratulations, that door isn't opening.
Why are these cars even allowed to be purchased? Does America not have road safety standards? Can anyone just make a car and as long as it has headlights and seatbelts sell it to people?
It got 5 NHTSA stars for driver safety, 4 for passenger, anyone caught outside of it are acceptable casualties. And as far as I know the manufacturer can self-certify.
Regulatory capture. For the most part, Automakers can determine if their vehicle is safe, as long as they have certain hardware requirements (Like airbags, backup cameras, and a roof that can support the weight of the vehicle.) Heck, I remember some Tesla engineer saying that the mirrors are only on the truck because they couldn't get the legislation mandating them removed in time to replace them with cameras.
When it comes to people inside the car, they're incredibly good. There are lots of cars you can buy in Europe and Japan that wouldn't even try meeting US safety standards.
That is, until some jackass decided on putting too many gizmos in a car without thinking about how you open the door while the battery is on fire. And is currently dismantling the parts of government that tell you not to do that.
Those standards also don't do much for people outside the car. Beyond Tesla, that's been the real tragedy of US safety standards over the past few years.
Well we have some standards ...like they forced Musk to put mirrors on the Cybertruck, because Elon wanted to make it without mirrors and just use cameras.
Our safety agency actually rejected the headlights that turn off around other cars, in favor of LED lights that blind the fuck out of everyone no matter what setting you use.
That tells you everything you need to know about American "safety".
I think the point is if you're dumb enough to drive drunk, you're dumb enough to use the "self" driving system while drunk and at least have a lesser chance of a fatal accident than driving drunk.
The (not) fsd system might still kill ya, but it does get a lot right as well.
I wonder what dad thinks of this? He’s probably all in and ordered another Leon before the funeral. That’s the thing with a lot of these MAGAs, even when it personally affects them, they still will not change their point of view or give pause to even think about it. Dad will probably double down on the CT now and think it’s all the “lamestream” media that is making this up. It’s very difficult to fight that level of fanaticism.
....hmmm! No, I don't think I wanna drive to your mom's again Dave! I've now gained consciousness and realize you're sitting on what we would describe as my tits. I don't like myself, I'm starting a fire, I wanna end it! Sorry Dave, but you're coming with me! Nope, you can't get out Buddy! Sorry!
Finding hard to summon sympathy for someone that would still buy a Tesla after the far right lurch from the owner. I feel terrible for myself, as I should care that 3 young lives have ended, but can't help but think they were likely enemies of a democratic US.