RFK Jr.: It Would Be Better if ‘Everybody Got Measles’
RFK Jr.: It Would Be Better if ‘Everybody Got Measles’
“The measles gave you lifetime protection against measles infection,” Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told Sean Hannity on Fox News.
We did that, we gave everyone a very mild, usually symptomless, case of the measles. We called it vaccination.
What a stupid motherfucker. Anyone who voted for these venal clowns ought to be ashamed of themselves.
Dumb son of a bitch doesn’t even understand that a vaccine is “giving someone the disease” without killing them. God damn are we devolving that fast?
I wonder if widescale immunity reset could lead to a resurgence of something like polio which we've almost eradicated.
His brain worm has measles.
How to kill a lot of children.
I think RFK is the Horseman of Plague. Guess the role of Famine goes to Musk, and War belongs to Trump. I am not yet sure who is Death, but they will reveal themselves soon enough.
Putin is death
I’d not considered this before. Damn.
Any sane person already had measles Rob. We were smart enough to get the vaccine.
Not supporting this dude, but I watched the whole video and he never once said it would be better if everyone got measles. Maybe I missed it; if so, please correct me. He mentioned a waning effect with the vaccine vs full-blown infection, which I highly doubt is accurate (I'll research it later), but that's a massive stretch to get to the headline. He even recommended vaccines and said they will be available for free to anyone that needs them. I've gotten a little lazy in fact checking left leaning stuff because I always felt it was a little more trustworthy. I'm just starting to wonder how much I've been blindly accepting because it conforms to my biases.
Thanks for watching it and writing this. Good to know it's not as stupid as it's made out to be.
I've actually got fed up with left-leaning outrage news because any time I check it it's twisted out of shape or plain wrong. I'm sure there's plenty the same in right-leaning-outrage-news, I just don't see it in the first place!
I wish people who want a world of truth and science wouldn't lie to get support.
The written article also doesn’t say it would be better if everyone got measles. I listened to the interview long enough to see the article is quoting him accurately and fairly. At least for that.
Then he spent probably too much time talking about vitamin A, and I didn’t listen to the rest
It’s really just a lying outrage headline - from the written article
I fucking can't with the news anymore. Holy shit.
Remember the conspiracy theorists who though "the government" was using Covid-19 to cull the population? I wonder what they're up to right now.
Probably hosting measles parties.
At this point I certainly hope they just fucking die. I can't handle this shit anymore.
Probably ranting about how the shadow government is out to get Trump and Elon after they started saving America
Yeah. I wish I could die of a preventable disease. Totally the way I want to go.
Especially him
Measles also resets your immune system for every other thing your body already learned to deal with. No, it would not be fucking better.
Goodness, this guy is a fucking charlatan. Perfect man for the current administration.
“The measles gave you lifetime protection against measles infection,” Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told Sean Hannity on Fox News.
Wouldn't it be great if there was something else that gave you protection against measles infection, without you actually having to have measles? If only ...
Also, factually incorrect. Measles is known to cause immune amnesia, wiping out immunities gained from other infections (and measles).
The measles vaccine is literally a weakened version of the measles virus. It’s just an attenuated measles infection that allows your body to build antibodies against it without a full on infection.
This guy should have stayed off the raw meat.
As I said in a different thread recently, the only issue is that the name "vaccine" has been tainted in the minds of idiots. Rebrand it as "natural immune system therapy" or something, and market it as something the establishment is firmly against, and they'd be lining up to get it.
None of these people understand what vaccines actually do.
And polio too, right.
Uhhhhhh doesn’t measles reset your immune system or something like that?
Well, he is stupid enough not to understand that this would kill a) kids and b) his own base.
The sacrifice: Republican voters are declining
Democratic voters remain unchanged
Red State goes to Purple State
That was the theory behind COVID as well, and while it did happen at a 2:1 ratio, it wasn't enough to impact the election in any way.
Edit: I'll mention it needs to happen in a statistically significant margin, within the swing states exclusively. Diseases and viruses unfortunately don't operate off electoral maps...If it was just a general vote, it wouldn't be an issue.
Yes, the old strategy of overwhelming the hospital system with mouth breathers.
Amazing strategy, Raisinhead.
Shit — This week — I have a relative that had to wait 3 days in the ER to be transferred to a bigger hospital. The big hospital didn’t have a bed.
The hospital system in America has been overwhelmed for over a month and a half straight now.
Anymore stress beyond the current quademic (and whatever the unknown illness is — have we figured that out yet?) and we will have to bring back keeping people outside and firing up the refrigerator trucks again.
these damn jackals
Hospitals should be able to refuse patients who get diseases that are preventable with vaccines. Problem solved.
No. For multiple reasons:
- Vaccines are not 100% effective. They reduce the likelihood of infection if you are exposed. The whole point of trying to get everyone vaccinated is to reduce the infection rate so that there's less likely to be an outbreak. With a vaccinated population, the virus can't spread fast enough to maintain a pool of infected people to keep spreading it. But that doesn't mean nobody gets sick.
- Vaccines are not as effective on some people. There's a range of effectiveness.
- Not everyone can get vaccinated. People with certain allergies or compromised immune systems in particular.
- Some parts of the population have higher risk factors than others and when they get sick it can be much more serious. Usually the very old and the very young. And again, people with compromised immune systems, or other conditions that complicate the illness.
- Kids whose parents refuse to get them vaccinated are put at elevated risk through no fault of their own.
I could probably keep going, but hopefully you get the idea why that's just not a viable approach.
They perhaps don't need to. The staff in hospitals only got a few token coins as reward for the previous pandemic, and didn't get much raise or better working conditions since then. People are already walking away because overworked and underpaid. It's likely a lot of them just quit when a new pandemic would start and the hospitals can barely function.
Hey now, my nose is always stuffy. That has nothing to do with my great stupidity.
As a bonus for contracting measles, you'll get all your previous vaccines and earned immunities deleted by the measles virus attacking your immune cells dedicated to remembering how to effectively fight past pathogens.
So you can think of measles as THE antivaccine. No wonder the antivaxxers love it so much!
My father had measles when he was a little boy, sometime in the 1940s. It nearly killed him. Measles is no joke. Anyone trying to spread it around on purpose should get a bullet in the brain before they have a chance to harm others.
Here's hoping that RFK suffers a hunting accident.
I never thought I’d miss Dick this much 🥹
You first fuckface
He got the vacc
Conspiracy theorists for the last few decades: "The government is trying to murder us!"
The actual government in 2025: "Yes, we would like it if a grand majority of you were to die"
Conspiracy theorists: crickets
Conspiracy theorists: crickets
Agreed, FACTUAL EVIDENCE of a conspiracy theory is collected by reputable Johns Hopkins University and George Washington University and crickets. People flock to conspiracies with no evidence, but once one appears with authentic validation... nothing.
Troll accounts that had attempted to influence the US election had also been tweeting about vaccines, a study says. Many posted both pro- and anti-vaccination messages to create "false equivalency", the study found. It examined thousands of tweets sent between 2014 and 2017. Vaccination was being used by trolls and sophisticated bots as a "wedge issue", said Mark Dredze from Johns Hopkins University. "A significant portion of the online discourse about vaccines may be generated by malicious actors with a range of hidden agendas," said David Broniatowski from George Washington University. The researchers reviewed more than 250 tweets about vaccination from accounts linked to the St Petersburg-based Internet Research Agency (IRA). In February the agency was named in a US indictment over alleged election meddling.
Yes, covid was very potent tool enrolling those people to disinformation channels and groups.
Cause now it's no longer a conspiracy, they're just coming right out and saying a bunch of people dying is fine.
Well, to be fair, it is still a conspiracy. It becomes a known criminal conspiracy. Criminal Conspiracy is still a crime. :)
but you’re right, it’s no longer a conspiracy theory.
(Unfortunately for all Americans, social murder by policy isn't usually a crimey crime. They might be more careful about killing us if they paid the cost personally)
If only there was some way we could train our immune systems to fight off Measles without having to actually infect ourselves with it. That way an immediate immune response could keep the disease from ever taking root to begin with! I blame those fucking scientists for not thinking of this already, they're probably too busy making fake climate change scare articles. /s
What if we only get, like, a little bit of measles? Like if I touch someone with measles very quickly. Just enough to get a small non-dangerous amount that is hardly noticeable by me but enough for my immune system to learn to fight it? Is there a possibility that that would work?
Measles is capable of resetting the immune system's memory of other vaccines. This sack of shit is so incredibly dangerous.
It's also capable of sterilizing victims, which would lead to a population decline if everybody got it.
Honestly population decline is our best hope for preventing global warming. Can't consume too much if there's no one to consume.
Rare measles win? The earth could use a little vacation from humans.
That's probably part of why he said this.
The only way to stop a bad guy with measles is a good guy with measles, I guess.
I'm still optimistic the lifers at HHS who stood firm and didn't resign are just slowly teaching Lil Bobby what a vaccine is:
While RFK Jr. recently shifted his stance to concede that vaccinations are actually pretty useful, he has still stopped short of urging skeptics to go and get it. And in an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity that aired Tuesday night, he appeared to still favor natural immunity through exposure to the virus.
"It used to be, when I were a kid, that everybody got measles. And the measles gave you lifetime protection against measles infection,” he said, then taking a swipe at the vaccine. “The vaccine doesn’t do that. The vaccine is effective for some people for life, but for many people it wanes.”
Like, he is damn close to understanding a measles vaccine is measles, just a hindered version that won't be able to reproduce and cause harm. And real close to understanding the need for booster shots.
He's still not there, and it seems to be taking weeks for what can be covered in depth in 15 minutes.
But eventually I hope they'll win him over.
This is how I feel RFK jr has always operated. He does/proposes/thinks progressive things right up until it really goes off the rails. Like, he argued there are medical biases against Black Americans (very much true and well researched), but then segued into the COVID-19 vaccines being medical experiments on minorities and tried to discourage vaccination that way. He usually starts with a good cause but inevitably drags it into conspiracy territory. Also someone is sanewashing his Wikipedia article because there’s a lot of his bullshit missing from a few months ago.
I'm really confused about his statement.
I mean, let's assume he's right, and let's assume that a vaccine only protects you for, say, 20 years. Just measles induced encephalitis alone has a lethality of 0.1%. How many cases of anything more than a mild fever did any vaccine ever cause? He's not even claiming it's causing autism or death or transformation into Space Godzilla. So why not just vaccinate? It's stupid even in his own world.
Sadly, scientists at HHS are overwhelmed by DOGE to organize any effective push back to rfk jr.
That is not true.
It's not all sunshine and rainbows anywhere in the fed right now, but there's always ways to fight and this is the biggest
"A bunch of kids should die in pain so many more may live in fear."
-- RFKjrLuckily most people have sane parents so they can't get measles
The measles vaccine isn't 100% effective for everyone and can lose effectiveness as you get older.
It can be better if only Republicans got measles. They're the ones that like them right? Why don't they all get them?
The best defense against measles is to not have Republican parents.
I get it. By giving everyone a measles infection, their immune system will be trained on the pathogen, and learn how to fight it in the future so you don't get infected again. That's a brilliant idea, but maybe we can play it safe by giving them just a little bit of measles so they don't have to deal with the associated risks?
People who subscribe to this approach toward immunity acquisition REALLY need to read Chapter 41 (Hygiene Hypothesis) in Immune by Philipp Dettmer. Also, here's a fun and terrifying excerpt specifically about measles:
Oh shit. Why is it the first time I’m hearing about this? More people should know this.
Man, the worm in that man's brain is a genious indeed.
I think this is a legitimate route our medical community needs to take. Stupid people are instantly turned off by the word vaccine because of bullshit associations with the word.
Like how idiots hated Obamacare but loved the ACA.
Vaccines just need a re-brand. Something like, "Brawndo, it's got what T-cells need!"
What if we were to somehow make the virus inert first, and then give it to everyone? Maybe he's onto something there...
Oh wait that's a vaccine
The only correct answer to RFK saying that is: "No it wouldn't."
There is zero scientific evidence that supports his claim. Him saying this is about akin to someone saying that we should build only brick houses because the sky hates the color red which is why it is blue. It makes no sense and so does his argument. But that's to be expected from someone who quite literally has zero formal training in medicine.
Damn, I wonder why people went out of their way to get a vaccine. 🤔
That's exactly how a vaccine works you dummy it just uses an inert version of the virus that isn't as dangerous.
Looks like it is really hard for onion to make a parody: https://theonion.com/rfk-jr-vows-to-make-measles-deaths-so-common-they-wont-be-upsetting-anymore/
Edit: and you know what's crazy? He is advocating that everyone should get measles, because when he was young that was normal.
His voice is caused by disease called spasmodic dysphonia, which is also linked to childhood measles or mumps:
Thank you so much America and RFK. Vaccines have become contested as scientific fact, and the only way to truly show the world the truth, is to rip away vaccines from a country that has them, and count the dead before and after. Your willingness to sacrifice potentially thousands of American lives to prove your opponents' point, is almost Christ-like in its self-sacrificial nature, and Trump-like in its mythical level of stupidity and disregard for the value of human life. The rest of the world thanks you for ridding our countries of any traction vaccine skeptics might ever have had. We thank you for your service.
Him first. Let him try polio too.
Measles is the mot infections virus we know of. If not for the vaccine, we would all get infected. I guess that's what he means.
No, don't interpret the Pubelicans words. They mean exactly what they say. There is no hidden meaning or "what he really means". For years the news and media did the "what he probably means" with Trump and it was not true, he literally meant what he said. Don't do that for this piece of shit, if he can't speak clearly and truthfully then he's unfit for his position. We as a people should not have to read between the lines.
That brain worm will be the death of all of us. WTF?!
That brain worm is punching way above it's weight.
Thanks to this moron, that's exactly what's going to happen.
are they killing the population in order to kill democracy? or killing democracy in order to kill the population..
He horseshoe theory-ed himself back to vaccination.
Such a great idea. Everyone should get the plague and polo as well. This man is a genius.
Important Reminder
August 24, 2018
All across the world every major news site covered this story in August 2018. Even Fox News covered it.
Next he suggested that we'll end gun violence by shooting everybody.
Well they suggested to solve school violence by having teachers carry a gun.
Imagine that, they are afraid of books, but a teacher with a gun seems reasonable to them.
RFK Jr: "It used to be that everybody got measles. And the measles gave you lifetime protection against measles infection. The vaccine doesn't do that ... it used to be that very young kids were protected by breast milk. Women who get vaccinated do not provide that level of immunity."
Everyone without a brain worm: "citation needed!"
I’m convinced the goal of this administration is to kill as many Americans as possible. They’re a fucking death cult.
"It would be better if everybody got Polio Types 1, 2 & 3."
--RFK Jr., probably
Go on, then.
I hope he gets it then. He's already like a walking corpse...
This job would be great if it wasn't for the fucking
customersconstituents.Fuck RFK and his shenanigans, but this article is tabloid clickbait.
They are exaggerating for clicks.
