I think it'd be subverting expectations. From the start you might think it's about the Pacific trash island that has collected there, but then it turns the other way and calls Puerto Rico a trash island. A decently funny joke imo, even if rude. I've seen the same joke being done about the UK and it did get a proper chuckle out of me.
The main difference is that the UK used to be powerful and did a lot of bad things to a lot of countries around the world. Puerto Rico on the other hand has always been weak so it feels weird for someone in a much more powerful area of the world to pick on them.
I don't understand the joke because everybody knows the trash island (not an island btw, you cannot walk on it) is in the Pacific Ocean, and Puerto Rico is on the Atlantic Ocean, so it's inaccurate. I mean... geography is important, otherwise, you could do the joke with any island in the world and as a French, I would of course pick Great Britain.
Puerto Ricans can and do move and there's large numbers of them in swing states. There's 450 thousand just in Pennsylvania
EDIT: also doesn't help that he also said
“These Latinos, they love making babies, too. Just know that they do,” Hinchcliffe said, setting up his joke: “There’s no pulling out. They don’t do that. They c-- inside, just like they did to our country."
You couldn’t invent a band of chucklefucks more capable at torpedoing a presidential campaign…and yet here we are, tied, with apparently no ability to sway any voters away from Trump. It’s so demoralizing.
Are they? Are they really? Puerto Rico still isn't allowed to be it's own state
Downvoters somehow missing the point where Puerto Ricans are basically treated as second class citizens because of where they live. Puerto Rico should be it's own state already
They are still U S. citizens, just not citizens of any state. Same thing can happen if you are born in DC or a military base not in a state.
American Samoans are the ones that really get screwed. They are just U S. nationals. All the responsibilities of citizens (including the draft when it exists) but not all of the benefits.
What a weird place this instance is.
The explanation for those not in the know.
Puerto Ricans are USA citizens they can vote for president but
They can not vote on the president from Puerto Rico.
They are natural born US citizens can't vote for president in the place of their birth. This is because of many reasons.
So they have to move and become residents of not Puerto Rico, but a different state, to vote for president.
So they do not have the same rights as other US citizens because of where they live. This is unique in the united states.
Tony Hinchcliffe is not funny. Watched his podcast for a while then totally abandoned it because I realized I wasn't laughing during most episodes. It's mostly seasoned comics taking cheap shots at amateurs and then saying some racist shit while they all laugh and no one in the audience does. His nasally voice is annoying as fuck and hitching his wagon to the trump train seems pretty on brand for that fuckwit. His comedy brand caters to the same people who really like Joe Rogan and Alex Jones, both regulars on the podcast. Shocking I know.
The real joke is that the Trump campaign is tripping over itself now to disavow this message. Meanwhile it's come to light that this "comedian" was going to drop a c-bomb in his material in reference to Kamala, but the Trump campaign told him to remove it, and he complied.
Meaning they vetted the material and were a-fuckin'-ok with garbage island, only to later lie more and try to backpedal.
I'm still baffled by the logic of having a roaster/crowd work guy doing a set at a convention. Like... he was gonna insult people and start shit. It's literally his job.
He's not my cup of tea, but he's been around and successful for a while now. He's not an unknown entity who they could claim acted unpredictable.
Some people find that word to be too misogynistic to use as an epithet. I'm not quite sure where I stand on that myself, but I tend to avoid it overall.
Tony, Chapelle, and Joe Rogan are actively murdering comedy. They blame everyone but themselves because they can't get with the times. They look down on people and punch down constantly, and still manage to miss the mark. They are not down to earth, they are not relatable, and they should NOT be looked up to.
If you look at actual funny people, they've worked out a way to do it without being heavily racist.
If you look at shows like Brooklyn 99, they did an amazing job at respecting everyone whilst being hilarious. The parts of this nonsense I saw, was just cringe. It seemed like they were trying more to advertise racism than going for humor, because even my mates are funnier and they're not professionals
It feels like they were probably surrounded by yes men their whole lives so have lost touch
But... PR is part of the US and is a wonderful place full of kind people. I spent one of the best vacations of my life there going all the way around the island (and Culebra!) and it was nothing but gorgeous views, great food, friendly people (it does help to speak Spanish so you understand how friendly they are) and relaxing days.
And that was when the country was getting rocked by earthquakes and had recently been battered by a few climate-change monster hurricanes. Screw people who hate on PR, that place rocks and is more resilient than your average conservative commentator.
But... PR is part of the US and is a wonderful place full of kind people.
Yes, and ones who don't vote for these losers. That's what's got them butthurt. And the fact that they're a majority Hispanic place where everyone born there is automatically a U.S. citizen. I'm sure that also makes them seethe.
The main reason PR isn't a state is because Republicans are scared of how brown people would vote... and to a much greater extent, brown people in general.
This was such a weird choice, when the GOP was already getting more Latino support than previously... Wouldn't they want to court these people? Why would they straight up insult an entire voting bloc (one that experts have said could decide the outcome) this close to an election??
I know it's most likely just racism and stupidity, but I couldn't help but think that this dude did this on purpose to get less people to vote Republican? I mean, why else would they do this?
I previously knew this dude from his name, as the guy who writes most people's (particularly non-comedians) insult jokes at Roasts. I'm kind of surprised (but not really, I believe he hangs/hung around Rogan) he's a Trump supporter given the type of material he's written in the past.
I'm not a fan of Roasts, but I'm pretty sure this dude was supposed to be considered like the best at that. At least previously.
Maybe someone who knows more about this guy can weigh in on it. It's probably just racism if I'm being real.
After the 2012 loss to Obama, the RNC commissioned an investigation into what they could do better. It said, effectively, stop being racist, embrace immigrants, and ease off on abortion.
This changes nothing.
Not a single Trump voter changed their minds.
The Trump Puerto Ricans agree with this. They just think it's the 'others' fault.
This may even get them TO
vote since someone sees the 'problems' they live with. This is how EVERY group that votes Trump against their own interest feel.
spoiler
They 100% don't know they are included with the 'problem'
Well they can't vote for president. Unless the move to to the fifty states of confusion.
Right after Hurricane Irma hit Puerto Rico in 2017 I was at the local dount shop. All the local cofee drinker/maga's were there and this one POS was going on and on about how none of those filthy people were gonna come here and live off his tax dollars.
It was so stupid that I laughed. This dipshit asked me with a swagger in his voice what was so funny. I informed him that any one of them could get on a plane and come to the US. As soon as they changed their drivers license address they could register to vote. One or two of his asshole buddies confirmed that it was true and he was simply floored. Flummoxed is the best way to describe him.
So is Donald Trump "presidential" yet? Trump will never get a bigger or better venue than Madison Square Garden between now and the election and THIS is the stupid shit he is going with.
This isn't even good racism. This is like, 2000s-era ironic racism. Which was about as funny as Holocaust jokes, and aged about as well as Anne Frank.
Where's the hateful, KKK, lynchmob racism? Don't just casually half ass it. Show your real murican colors. Y'all are living like American History X and you give us Wayne Brady on Chapelles Show.
There are large number of Puerto Ricans in many swing states (+ important downballot races), and Republicans have been trying to court their vote. This isn't doing them any favors
Peurto Ricans by state
Pennsylvania: 450k
North Carolina: 100k
Wisconsin: 65k
Michigan: 50k
Florida: 1.1 million
New York: 1 million
It doesn't even have to change minds all that much to matter. If any trump-leaning Puerto Ricans just don't turnout, it matters a lot
Of course I hope you are right, but if after the past decade and everything that has happened, that has been said, this election seems to be in a dead heat instead of Harris/Waltz winning by anything other than a landslide, I hold no illusions about the intelligence and decency of the "average" american voter, these people are already dead inside, or at least not too far removed from illiterate medieval peasants, easily dazzled by bullshit and god-kings with magic political wands... abraca-fucking-dabra.
I am not fan of Tony but I really love Shane Gillis. I loved the Trump and Biden(Shane and Adam) episode. It was the best comedy I've seen in quite a while.
all the retarded takes in this post is the reason many have come to hate lemmy. you guys do get that he’s a comedian doing an act at a conference, right?
I think the joke was "I hate minorities, this is my unironic view! Race war now, if it aint white it's not right, white power!" which, is about as funny as a child with terminal illness, which is to say.. Not very funny at all, and is in fact quite a serious matter that should be taken as such.
I would like to know that. I would also like to know what the joke the same fuck told at the same event about black people carving Jack-o-Lanterns out of watermelons was.
i can’t tell if you’re asking in earnest or not, but the joke is rooted in subversion of expectations. puerto rico has 29 landfills, all of which are way over capacity, so trash is currently building up.
presumably he’s pointing out an actual problem on the island, while also poking fun at them in an offensive way.
the exact same joke has been pulled about england for the past 20 years, albeit without pointing out any sanitation issue.
“all the [r-slur] takes in this post is the reason many have come to hate lemmy. you guys do get that he’s a comedian doing an act at a conference, right?”
NO IT ISN'T! Launches into multiparagraph long rant about ð importation of ð Gutenberg press mid GVS ruined English spelling to a similar extent to Thai and Tibetan spelling
It's ð letter which represents ð soft 'th' sound ð way þ represents ð hard version. Like B and P but if we had just accepted representing boþ wið an fh for some reason.
I think it's up to the race he's going after to decide if this is offensive or not. And we Latinos agree it's offensive. Mainly because it's not funny it's just thinly veiled jokes used to push his real beliefs. And his "jokes" are lame and lazy.
We have a good sense of humor I'm sure that's been established throughout the years, if you make good jokes about us we'll laugh and even respect you, but this guy is a known right winger and he's making these "jokes" that are clearly not really jokes.
Also he said later people took it out of context but I think context makes it worse, the context is that he said this stuff during an official event for an official candidate