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The climate case for mock meats is clear. But who can afford them?
  • Not just transport but all processes in the supply chain after the food leaves the farm — processing, transport, retail, and packaging — mostly account for a small share of emissions.

    This data shows this is the case when we look at individual food products. However, studies also show that this holds true for actual diets; for example, researchers Vilma Sandström and colleagues studied the footprint of diets across the EU. Food transport accounted for only 6% of emissions, whilst dairy, meat, and eggs accounted for 83%.

    https://ourworldindata.org/food-choice-vs-eating-local

  • My other favorite is that veganism is for white people.
  • Factory farming is very much a global problem that's not limited to the US

    We estimate that over 90% of farmed animals globally are living in factory farms at present. This includes an estimated 74% of farmed land animals (vertebrates only) and virtually all farmed fish.[1]

    https://www.sentienceinstitute.org/global-animal-farming-estimates

    It's not just more people that's caused factory farming. It's increase per capita consumption. The rates of per capita consumption are enormously different. If everyone ate like Americans, we would need 137% of the world's habitable land which includes forests, urban areas, arable and non-arable land, etc. Cutting down every forest wouldn't even be enough

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-global-habitable-land-needed-for-agriculture-if-everyone-had-the-diet-of

  • YSK: Using dairy milk after being tear gassed or pepper sprayed doesn't provide more relief and has slightly increased infection risk. Use water or saline instead
  • There are perceptional reasons why it may feel like milk worked better such as it being cooled vs using room temperature water. Or from being the second thing used. Or from various different factors

    But the research above suggests it doesn't do as much as people think it does

    The infection risks are not the same. Milk has stuff in it that microbes like for growing where water doesn't have nearly all that. Other stuff can enter inside. The eye infection pathway is concerning especially right now when bird flu seems to enter that way and is in large quatities of dairy milk. Not all pasturization methods are certain to actually remove it (i.e flash pasturization might not)


    Edit: A minor point to clarify, capsaicin is in pepper spray but not tear gas. They often do get conflated but they are different

  • Journalist shot by Minneapolis police during 2020 protests dying from injuries
  • That's what people claim, but the research on it suggests it does not do any better for tear gas or pepper spray. Here's one study looking at pepper spray for instance:

    In this study, there was no significant difference in pain relief provided by five different treatment regimens. [Water vs milk vs 3 other solutions] Time after exposure appeared to be the best predictor for decrease in pain.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18924005/

    EDIT: Also worth noting that in terms of infection risk, bird flu is now in a large number of dairy samples and it appears like it transmit to humans through the eyes in particular (or at least be one of its transmission pathways).

    The workers were most likely exposed to the virus in contaminated milk—by getting it on their hands and then touching their eyes

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-bird-flu-is-causing-eye-infections-in-dairy-workers/

    Some types of pasteurization (flash pasteurization) might not fully get rid of all of the virus. So for even just bird flu alone, its likely more of a risk than it probably was in the past

  • Journalist shot by Minneapolis police during 2020 protests dying from injuries
  • From what I've been told, it takes large amounts of any fluid to get it to go away. One difference you may have observed with milk was that it was cooled vs room temperature water. Cooled water can have similar effects compared to cool milk

    Or the time factor itself since it was the second thing used

  • YSK: Using dairy milk after being tear gassed or pepper sprayed doesn't provide more relief and has slightly increased infection risk. Use water or saline instead

    Generally medical professionals do not vouch for using milk for tear gas despite it often being touted. The research seems to suggest they are largely the same in providing relief

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    Sources to back this up

    >That means bacteria can contaminate the milk and potentially cause infection if applied to eyes or skin wounds. Jordt says it’s better to use water or saline solutions to wash out eyes after a tear-gas attack

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/marlamilling/2020/07/21/the-risks-of-using-milk-to-soothe-tear-gassed-eyes-an-expert-says-use-water-instead/

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    Another source of medical professionals recommending against it

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/baltimore-protests-experts-caution-milk-antacid-wash-pepper/story?id=30653488

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    And a study looking at pepper spray as well

    > In this study, there was no significant difference in pain relief provided by five different treatment regimens. [Water vs milk vs 3 other solutions] Time after exposure appeared to be the best predictor for decrease in pain.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18924005/

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    Journalist shot by Minneapolis police during 2020 protests dying from injuries
  • Don't use dairy milk for tear gas. Comes with infection risks. Water or saline is generally recommended instead. Plant-milks might be ok (but I'm not 100% sure)

    That means bacteria can contaminate the milk and potentially cause infection if applied to eyes or skin wounds. Jordt says it’s better to use water or saline solutions to wash out eyes after a tear-gas attack.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/marlamilling/2020/07/21/the-risks-of-using-milk-to-soothe-tear-gassed-eyes-an-expert-says-use-water-instead/

    EDIT: accidentally pasted the wrong link earlier somehow, fixed now

  • Powerful
  • Now that I'm looking for it, I can't find it anywhere, I think it might just be something unpublished from the person on mastodon. Would make sense with them saying they love footnotes

  • Powerful
  • Not necessarily. Self citation is different than building on your previous work. You might just seek to use other citations for the relevent concepts

    Edit: the 2015 paper this is referencing lists many differing potential reasons for it. Ranging from worrying more about negative feedback for self citation to being more likely to being more critical of their own work

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2378023117738903

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    Someone else on mastodon found this https://masto.ai/@stavvers/112655306069874958

    EDIT: they might actually be the original author of that? I can't find this indexed anywhere else online (google, google scholar, and google books all turn up nothing or just that mastodon post)

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    web.archive.org Global beef production to contract

    Rabobank’s latest beef report projects cattle prices to maintain at current levels.

    Global beef production to contract
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    History @lemmy.ml usernamesAreTricky @lemmy.ml

    September 1976 - Hog Farm Magazine Issue Advising Farmers to Treat Pigs as Machines in a Factory

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    Vegan Firefighter Loses Groundbreaking Discrimination Case
  • The feed is often enough in places like the American west where water is sarce and shouldn't have been drawn in the first place

    Feed crops like alfalfa are some of the most water intensive crops to grow on that land

  • Just Want to Test Something Rule
  • nurple

    Hmm on what keyboard are n and p even that close to each other. Not on qwerty or dvorak. Maybe space and then n? But then wouldn't that be npurple

    Am I reading too much into this? Probably

    Related XKCD to my over analysis: https://xkcd.com/1530/

  • Animal homosexual behaviour under-reported by scientists, survey shows
  • Never is a strong word when that's just not true

    An animal model of spontaneous exclusive homosexuality has however been described in sheep. About 8% of the males in a population studied in the western United States were shown to mate exclusively with other males, even when the choice was given between a male or female partner (Perkins and Roselli, 2007; Roselli et al., 2011b).

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7484171/

  • They're Usually Shredded Alive Rule :(
  • Land usage is still lower

    we show that plant-based replacements for each of the major animal categories in the United States (beef, pork, dairy, poultry, and eggs) can produce twofold to 20-fold more nutritionally similar food per unit cropland. Replacing all animal-based items with plant-based replacement diets can add enough food to feed 350 million additional people, more than the expected benefits of eliminating all supply chain food loss.

    https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1713820115

    Complete proteins matter much less than you'd think. As long as you get the other proteins in at some point in the day you are fine. It doesn't take much for that as just adding rice to beans is enough to make it complete for instance

    The bioavaliability of protein metrics are highly misleading when applying them to plant-based foods due to some their assumptions

    While multiple strengths characterize the DIAAS, substantial limitations remain, many of which are accentuated in the context of a plant-based dietary pattern. Some of these limitations include a failure to translate differences in nitrogen-to-protein conversion factors between plant- and animal-based foods, limited representation of commonly consumed plant-based foods within the scoring framework, inadequate recognition of the increased digestibility of commonly consumed heat-treated and processed plant-based foods, its formulation centered on fast-growing animal models rather than humans, and a focus on individual isolated foods vs the food matrix. The DIAAS is also increasingly being used out of context where its application could produce erroneous results such as exercise settings. When investigating protein quality, particularly in a plant-based dietary context, the DIAAS should ideally be avoided.

    https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s13668-020-00348-8.pdf

  • Just Want to Test Something Rule

    Curious if there are/how many non-humans there are here

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    They're Usually Shredded Alive Rule :(

    They're usually shredded alive almost immediately because they're seen as "waste" since they don't lay eggs

    For some more context:

    Why the egg industry 'shreds' baby chicks alive (NSFL)

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    United States | News & Politics @lemmy.ml usernamesAreTricky @lemmy.ml

    S.4562 Introduced to Senate - If passed would prevent the frighteningly common practice of intentionally feeding manure to farm animals

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    Based Charles Darwin Rule

    From Charle's Darwin's The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex

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    *Terms and conditions may apply to how based or not Charles Darwin was, depending on the topic and or how you interpret some of his comments. For the most part, he was pretty based though from what I have read, especially for the time.

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    Quotes from slaughterhouse workers are hard to read rule

    There's a lot more in that source as well

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    > Some of them, if you stun them they just look at you and cry… when it cries and then it gives me another thing, of eish (shivering). I like animals and now I am killing the animals. The first week before I started to stun, hey, it was difficult for me

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    > Sometimes I saw myself slaughtering the animals, but you see eyes, I saw, eyes of the animal. It's like its watching me. That thing, that dream, I didn't feel well even when I came back to work, but I keep on checking the eyes to see its watching me, because I saw it in the dream. It's not easy for a first time

    --- >In my dream I see the bleeding line, just the cattle hanging on the line, all whose heads are off. I get this picture often. It's not nice to dream about blood; you wake up wet with sweat

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    And so on

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    Rule

    > About a fifth of the world’s annual wild fish catch, amounting to about 18m tonnes of wild fish a year, is used to make fishmeal and fish oil, of which about 70% goes to fish farms

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/feb/11/global-salmon-farming-harming-marine-life-and-costing-billions-in-damage

    Among other environment impacts too. All kinds of fish farms dumps lage amounts of waste into the environment

    >For a world annual shrimp production [in fish farms] of around 5 million tons, 5.5 million tons of organic matter, 360,000 tons of nitrogen, and 125,000 tons of phosphorous are annually discharged to the environment

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3353277/

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    Antibiotic Overuse Does Not Rule

    > However, Lo of FoodID said that the study is indicative of broader problems. He said consumers believe the antibiotic-free meat industry is “trust, but verify,” but that it’s actually more “don’t ask, don’t tell.” > > "Our perspective is the research and the paper highlight a systemic issue — it’s not about one farmer, rancher, retailer or restaurant chain,” he said. > > [...] > > Additionally, the use of antibiotics isn’t great for human health, because it leads to bacteria becoming more resistant to antibiotics designed to kill them, said Price. Antibiotic resistance leads to higher medical costs for humans, prolonged hospital stays and increased numbers of deaths.

    Some beef ‘raised without antibiotics’ tests positive for antibiotics in study

    (this includes those that were supposedly certified by independent organizations)

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    www.forbes.com Transgender Athletes Could Be At A Physical Disadvantage, New Research Shows

    An IOC-funded study published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine earlier this month suggests transgender athletes could be at a physical disadvantage.

    Transgender Athletes Could Be At A Physical Disadvantage, New Research Shows

    cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/10495324

    > https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/58/11/586.abstract

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    Anyone know why there seems to be an uptick in transphobia on lemmy.world? Rule

    Been seeing more transphobia in general on lemmy lately, largely on lemmy.world communities

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    iowacapitaldispatch.com Bird flu infects another Sioux County dairy farm • Iowa Capital Dispatch

    The recent detection of the virus in a herd of 1,700 dairy cattle is the third in the state in the past week.

    Bird flu infects another Sioux County dairy farm • Iowa Capital Dispatch
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