What are you buying now to avoid upcoming price increases?
This seems pretty important to crowdsource and talk about, so I'm gonna go ahead and risk violating the no politics rule from a few days ago, because I don't see a better community to ask this. My defense for it not "being politics" is, I'm asking you to keep it to purchasing decisions and how the details of how the tariffs are likely to work, as opposed to who did what. This thread has the potential to save people lots of money if it gets big!
Tariffs are gonna make things more expensive for Americans; what are you planning on buying now instead of later, or stockpiling a little of?
This is probably a different discussion, but anybody with tips, tricks, and details of where and how to do this safely, this might not be a bad place to show off what you know.
Step 1. Get a VPN. Probably a paid one that aligns with the needs of the client.
Step 2. Get an app for p2p/torrent downloads to make things fast.
Step 3. Configure your app of choice to strictly use the tun0 (VPN) only and nothing else. Just in case you get a lapse.
Step 4. Do it like it's 2008 again baby!
Fill up your pantry. Focus on grains which are labor intensive.
Once the deportations camps get rolling expect all the grocery prices to rise again. Having a full pantry will let you float for a while so you can adapt to newer recipes in your price range.
If you are willing to grind your own grain, whole grains can be stored in plastic buckets for years without spoiling. You've probably got to like whole grain stuff, sifting to get white flour is a pain.
Canadian grocery prices have increased something like 20% since 2019. At this point I think we're all buying less, eating less, and making sure we waste less.
To prepare for food shortages/price increases: I'm buying seeds for things I know I can grow in our garden, and stocking up on one or two of each of the fungicides, pesticides, and soil amendments that we regularly use. I bought 30 pound sacks of rice and beans, two large boxes of shelf stable nutrition shakes, and shelf stable vacuum sealed bread. We're considering buying half a cow with the neighbors, who have a deep freezer. I want to buy a pot plant, it'll probably depend on how much they cost. I already have a good supply of sunflower lecithin so I can make my own edibles.
To prepare for the EPA being gutted or other impacts of climate change: we bought AA and AAA batteries and refilled everything in our bug out bags, including first aid stuff and emergency high calorie food (in case of natural disasters.) We're installing a reverse osmosis filter in the kitchen sink (we're concerned about water safety as there have already been problems in our area due to old infrastructure) and it comes with a storage tank. Made sure we had plenty of candles, matches, flashlights, charcoal, lighters and lighter fluid, and a small grill for outside. Have an adapter for the car so we can plug things in if the power goes out.
To prepare for FDA/insurance/medical issues: We bought extra vitamins, and we're asking our doctors to prescribe as much of our necessary drugs as they are allowed to. I learned how to do all my physical therapy at home and have been collecting home exercise equipment for a while, unrelated to this but I'm grateful to have it all now. We also bought a few large bottles of rubbing alcohol and hydrogen peroxide. We already have a massive collection of OTC meds because I'm chronically ill and use them often. We plan to add a couple extra boxes of the most important stuff the next few grocery trips. Most important for us: painkillers, epi pens, allergy meds, inhalers, hydrocortisone, and diaper rash cream. No baby but it's useful for a lot of skin irritations.
For general preparation: I looked at the labels on all our personal care products (lotion, face wash, etc) and if it's made outside of the U.S. we ordered as much as we could afford, usually 1-2 of each. We're low maintenance so thankfully it wasn't too expensive. New undies for everyone, filters for everything that needs them (furnace, vents, pet fountains, etc.) Made sure we had needles, thread, super glue, duct tape, white vinegar, borax, and a couple things of Dr. Bronner's soap. We're also saving all our glass jars, packaging, etc (thank God we have a garage...) My grandparents lived through the depression and taught me how to make do and mend. That's my mindset right now.
We have a bidet and already buy TP in bulk so I'm not super worried about paper products. All our pets got checkups and boosters. We made appointments to get all our boosters as well (tetanus, covid, flu shot, etc.) We got a pet first aid kit and book. I got some general house stuff like wood filler, wood conditioner, nails, screws, and cleaning supplies. We shop at costco so honestly it's not much more than we usually have in the house.
I might be over prepared but I don't care. We've only spent ~$500 and decided to skip Christmas gifts so thankfully we can afford it. I'm considering a few more things but as it stands I'm feeling prepared.
We went with the APEC 5 stage RO filter. It was the best mix (for us) of easy to install and maintain, good reviews on multiple platforms, and affordable. We're getting replacement filters for each other for Christmas 😂
I’ve got a big pile of lumber I had milled that is almost finished drying. I’m buying up the remaining woodworking tools I need to process it into various items. The American made options are out of my price range.
My personal desktop machine is a Linux box I assembled from $500 worth of parts about 14 years ago. I've increased RAM and added about 8TB of storage for an Emby instance.
It still manages to get the job done, but it is obviously way, way, WAY overdue for replacement. We've been struggling financially for about 25 years.
Now I'm thinking I need to finally pull the trigger and get it done before January.
IMO there's little need to buy new in the computer world unless you want to do something silly like have a snapdragon x laptop or have the disposable funds to go the gaming rig route.
My desktop is a retired business workstation, a HP Z420. I bought it for $250, installed a smaller SSD ($100 new) for the OS + apps, upgeaded to the "best" Xenon that fit the socket ($150 used), upgraded to 64 GB RAM ($107 used, yay ECC memory being dirt cheap on the used market), and a 1070TI ($225 used, purchased just before covid).
It's more than fast enough for my needs still.
This was all about 4-5 years ago, so you could probably do even better with more modern hardware.
Yep. Two weeks ago I was thinking I'd wait through at least one more gen of CPUs and GPUs before upgrading--I've got a 6700XT which works great, but everything else is basically 2012-era tech. Now I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on replacing basically everything but the GPU as soon as tomorrow. If the country is going to implode I may as well have some extra pretty distractions.
The easy way to save is to buy used. You can usually buy a super high spec one for 500 to 800 USD used. I think I spent 600 for mine with a 3070 (from hardwareswap, about 1k or so in parts)
Got some kitchen appliances I've been putting off upgrading, buying a new TV now, new PC. Basically if theres electronics that probably won't make it for four years, buy it now.
Get your garden going too. Been extremely poor, it helps a ton.
Oh just fyi, of you have to buy from a big box store, Lowe's donate the most to Democrats and last to Republicans. Fuck home Depot.
I predicted this. I said if we ever tried to block politics it would devolve into nitpicking what is and isn't political.
But to answer the question: If your computer shit is about due for a upgrade, don't wait.
Grocery prices would probably keep going up no matter who got elected, so gardening supplies would be a good investment over time. Along with gardening comes the peripheral skills of cooking and preserving when it'll hurt your soul to see any of your sweet baby tomatoes go to waste.
Yeah if you have ones that need replacing or at least are close or at least are more energy efficient. If they are relatively new im now sure if you would still "win" out. I get what your asking, I think part of it is I have been thinking of it myself and in my case I have somewhat recently already done my fridge, washer/dryer, hot water heater, and stove. Which I mean is a good thing as some of them I even got before the last burst of inflation. I was sorta kicking myself for others as we had the large inflation but now it might end up being a great time to do it. I sorta wish I could have gotten my whole place renovated.
as someone else said, plan for a long term(longer than four years). as for me I'm going to phase it out over three years to be reliant on the system as least as possible. the fourth year would hopefully be close to 80% self-reliant.
I'm planning on going all out on a garden next year. nothing fancy; potato, onion, carrot, tomato, squash (fall and winter), peas, string beans, misc herbs, sun flowers, maybe some corn(everybody grows it around here so bartering for some would be easy, besides corn is a pita to grow).
whatever I can't dry, I'll can.
my goal is to be at least 50-60% self sufficient after the first year. this should only require me to buy meat and seasonings mostly. then add on anything else I'll need.
consumables like TP and tissues can't really be stocked reliably as they degrade over time due to humidity.
I'll also be stocking up on common medications for my kids for at least the four years. the last time we went through this there were many product recalls. this time there's talk of defunding the FDA/CDC. I can only imagine the chaos parents will be in when a pandemic sweeps through again and you can't even trust the medicine anymore. common things like cold/flu, fever reducers, epi-pens. (if you plan on doing this, don't be a dick and buy everything at once. take a third so others can still get what they need and get more next week).
I also plan on stocking up on slingshot rubbers and maybe some more ammo. There's a lot of wildlife around me that could either be eaten and/or used a fertilizer. I hope I'll never need to resort to it, but would rather have it and hunt rather than not and starve. probably add some bow strings and arrows to the list for bigger game like deer.
I have kind of been planning for this for years so it's not my first time doing this. my best advice, do anything you feel you can accomplish successfully. don't waste time or resources growing food if you don't have space for a garden (don't experiment with hydroponics if you don't have the time or resources to fail multiple times).
Find other ways to contribute to your community like; cleaning and maintaining weapons, fixing tools, home repair, technology/PC repair. anything you can do successfully will give you an edge that gives you an opportunity to barter for what you need, this includes credit in the community.
I once did tech support and one day someone couldn't pay me. so they gave me some deer they had hunted recently. a year later that person called me and asked if I wanted a job making triple what I was making at my old job(not IT related). credit can't be eaten, but it goes a long way and is indispensable.
stay strong, be smart, we'll get through this yet.
Food, but not primarily for cost savings as most regular used things things don't last longer than a year, which cost wise won't bridge the gap.
55 lbs of 00 flour in the chest freezer, still have about 25lbs of AP flour in there. 1 30lb bag of Jasmine Rice, 1 25 lb basmati. I still have a ton of beans and and dry pasts in mylar/oxy absorb sitting in barens cans for long term storage. When covid started, I had 1 million calories in storage. I don't plan to go back to that, but I intend to be able to hunker down for a long time.
For work, I'm pushing to purchase more laptops before tariffs.
I've considered stowing fuel with a stabilizer but even if prices double on fuel, I don't use enough of it to make a difference.
It would be a good time to buy any lithium ion batteries and finish off those ali-express/temu orders.
US produces sufficient amount of food to be self sufficient, ie fast majority of foods is made within US for US consumption... i doubt any base food will be affected anyway, that's not what tariff policy is about here.
While US is self sufficient in fuel, US pays global market rate. But again, we are not getting hit with tariffs here either.
A large percentage of US manufacturing is food processing. Manufacturing has been struggling to fill open roles for years,1 and as a low-skilled job with tons of openings lots of migrants, both citizens and not work in manufacturing since the pay & benefits are hard to beat for not requiring any degrees. Its a similar situation with farm work. If the Trump administration actually performs significant deportations and cancellations of visas like he promised, food availability will be affected as farms and food producers struggle to keep up with demand
1 Here's the JOLTS data showing as much as 200k unfilled manufacturing jobs. I can't easily directly link my query, but here's a screenshot of the data with enough info to replicate my query
This is only tangentially related, but the best thing you can do is make stuff instead of buying it. Somewhat ironically, community building and self sufficiency will be more important than ever. Yeah everyone is going to say electronics but I feel like we all have enough of those already. Forbidden knowledge is far more valuable. Kind of doomer but... that's where I'm at lately.
I'm a federal employee and my wife's a teacher so I'm trying to figure out how to very carefully and cautiously hide a PS5 Pro in the drywall and convince her I got a new controller for the Switch
Buy staff made in Taiwan..
So get that PC upgrade now and get the most RAM you can stick in it.
With Trump being Trump I guarantee that China will be putting that shiny new navy to use soon as Trump will simply do nothing for the prospect of a "good deal"(for a new Trump Tower in Beijing or something)
Good on you! I know so many adults who have no desire to learn how to cook and as a result spend a fortune on food delivery. I had a friend/co-worker a few years back who lived with a couple he knew since college. Couple moved on and a few hours across the province, but he was so helpless/useless he would make the drive every two weeks to have one of them meal prep all of his food for him.
Great skill! My wife has been cooking her entire life and now she cans all of our vegetables but has expanded into fruit drink mixes, pig fat, stocks, etc. the benefit is that what she cooks now is better than most restaurants. She has the gift of just knowing what should go together so she can whip anything together. She enjoys it which makes it so much better. Nothing like TLC in foot prep to make things taste even better. I can’t even put together how much we’ve saved by not eating out. Although, we do like to break down whatever we’re having cost wise vs how much it would’ve cost at a nice restaurant. Anyway, all that to say, you made a wise choice and I’m sure it’s already paid off.
I definitely need to get a new car. I’ve kept mine running as well as I could and it’s almost old enough to vote but it’s reaching the end of its life. I’d do without one if I could but it’s a necessity and I try to drive as little as possible. I always go Subaru so that’s an import and I’m sure if I wait it’ll be wholly unaffordable. I need to replace some of my electronics repair kit so I can fix what I have when possible.
My big thing is a new TV. We have a 46” LCD from 2009 that often refuses to fully power on. I’ve been dragging my feet on replacing it, just cuz I know the research is gonna be demoralizing, with how dystopian a lot of the “smart TVs” are. But now there’s some real time pressure, so I guess I have to.
Coincidentally, I was already planning on upgrading my personal dev machine (to an M4 Mac Mini) and my retro handheld (to a Retroid Pocket 5), as well as my first dip into XR glasses with the Viture Pro. So I’m kinda ahead of the game there.
I’ve been (im)patiently waiting for the next version of the Orange Pi 800, but if tariffs hit before then I’ll probably just skip it. Analogue 3D is also likely to exit my wish list.
I’ll probably move up the timeline on adding storage to my home server if I can afford to. And some microSD cards, since I seem to always need yet another one.
I’ve got a few friends who were looking at upgrading their PCs this year, so I’ll probably be helping them shop and seal the deal before things get weird.
I wouldn’t expect many outrageous Cyber Monday deals this year. Most mfgs probably wanna stretch their inventory so they can delay price increases and stay competitive. That said, there’s also bound to be companies that are poised to strike early because they have already de-China-fied their supply chains. But even they are bound to be cautious.
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Also, imo, this is why a “no politics” rule is dumb. Policy ends up changing people’s lives, and dealing with a change in your life — especially one that others are also experiencing — is a big reason why people post on communities like this. “Superficial shit only” is a fine strategy for a massive site that can stand to prune meaningful user engagement for the sake of keeping things family-friendly for advertisers, but since Lemmy is not Reddit, wtf are we doing?
My big thing is a new TV. We have a 46” LCD from 2009 that often refuses to fully power on. I’ve been dragging my feet on replacing it, just cuz I know the research is gonna be demoralizing, with how dystopian a lot of the “smart TVs” are. But now there’s some real time pressure, so I guess I have to.
check out commercial "pro" TVs. these are typically used for digital signage. they're usually more expensive, but have a longer warranty time plus, no smarts! I bought the Samsung BE55T-H from Amazon. I think it came with a 3 year mfg warranty and I got the 3 year Amazon warranty that kicks in after mfg runs out.
I mostly use it as a monitor, but it has HDMI and DTV as well. I'm not a picky viewer so keep that in mind, even if it's not pixel perfect 4k, it's good enough for my uses.
Canadian here. I expect the supply of products that would otherwise have gone to the US to go up and the price here to go down. I'll just wait for the US tariff discounts to hit.
Replacing some small to mid size appliances. Mine are generally 7-10 years old and some of the cooking ones are becoming unsafe to use due to wear. New air fryer to replace the one that smokes when it runs and the toaster oven that has two burnt out coils. Potentially a new dryer of the motor replacement is cost prohibitive.
If I can't fix it and expect 3+more years of use it needs to be replaced in the next 6 months.
A portable SSD. I need a new external hard drive anyway, so adding that November sales have reduced prices currently and that announced tariffs are designed to raise them very soon, there really is no better logical time for me to get one other than now.
Probably a computer.
I still don’t know if I want a laptop or a desktop. Still don’t know if I want to stay with Apple products or try something new. The frameworks laptops look cool but not the best bang for the buck. I also assume the tariff will kill the supply chain of spare parts which makes them attractive in the first place.
The coolest part about the framework is the fixability. I'll be able to run on 16gb of DDR5 until DDR6 becomes the hot new thing, at which time I'll get 32gb of ddr5 on sale and be set set for another good while, and during all that if anything breaks on it I can get the parts cheap enough and do the repair myself easily. Then maybe in like idk 15yr or so if framework is still around I can buy a new mobo/ram and maybe screen to slap in that bad boy and now I have the laptop of Theseus that'll keep trucking until I repeat the cycle.
I’m mostly looking at whether I would have made any medium sized purchases in the next two yearsl. I might buy some little things in bulk, too, but if there’s any one time purchase where the price is going to jump $200, $300, $500, it’s time to make a decision.
For me that mostly means furniture. I already bought a pair of commodity IKEA bookshelves I’d been considering buying vs building. I might still build replacements, but I would still use what I just bought and domestic lumber won’t be directly subject to a tariff. I’m looking at buying a papasan chair and a mattress as well, probably in the next week or two.
I’ve also considered electronics, but there’s nothing I would buy in the next two years short of some PC components that I’m sure I’ll want. I bought a Quest 3 a while back and it’s been a great purchase.
I did go back through some of my online buying this year to see what I used. I’ll probably buy a few pairs of work shoes and some good soap.
Zactly. And if retaliatory tariffs come in to increase prices of American products, our exports should become more valuable and increase foreign reserves to strengthen our currency and improve our buying power on imports.
I assume that fat cunt will add tariffs on our stuff as well, so we'll work on disentangling ourselves from US dependency, and open markets elsewhere, which is good. That'll raise more prices for you and inflation should become rampant in the US, and weaken the USD.
Hate to see what's happening down there, but in the short term, it's probably good for us as the US steps on its dick for a few years.
I have very little to do with the US and said tariffs, so I'm not affected directly.
In general though I try to be rational with big(ger) purchases - I research things for at least a week or two before buying (but more often it's months) and try to maximise my use of what I buy.
I don't believe in such consumption unless it is warrant by some sort of real need.
ie, if you use the product over years and you know you will need it going forward, sure stock pile. but maintaining a stock pile has its own cost.
Also, using what you got until is fail is a valid strategy too for durable goods, most people don't do this. We as society literally throwing money away.
I think one things anyone who has excess should be doing is buying US treasury bills or money markets, it seems people some people are still keeping their cash at boomer banks who won't give you good rate unless you shop around etc.
While threat of tariffs is real, I doubt federal government will start fucking peasants outright in already inflationary environment.
US is food and energy sufficient. Them targeting china made plastic trash sold on Temu and Shein is or a domestic retailers really too, should be fucked tariffed the fuck out. You don't need this plastic slop, sorry, not sorry.
Plus US can make all of these products home anyway, since some of these products do have strategic role within society. No joke, when Biden did his state aid package shit like trash bag manufacturing was covered. So US provided free money to corpo parasites to build or expand factories for this. While I don't support state aid usage, at least this state aid result in more national security and pandemic resilience along with jobs for some peasants in more rural areas.